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but this by no ways means to start a religous dogma that mocks brothers...... is just totaly against the will of God ....
Its a gainst the Will of God to change the goal post to suit a few.......
The majority of England reconise that are loved ones are allready in heaven,,,, which as we all know heaven is the new world to come...where we will walking and talking.... if we remain doers of the word also... as this feel is a daily choir..
Its called a positive feeling from doing your daily choir,,,of being saved....
Its a gainst the Will of God to change the goal post to suit a few.......
The majority of England reconise that are loved ones are allready in heaven,,,, which as we all know heaven is the new world to come...where we will walking and talking.... if we remain doers of the word also... as this feel is a daily choir..
Its called a positive feeling from doing your daily choir,,,of being saved....
so i urge you brothers to
[h=1]Colossians 2:8King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]8 [/SUP]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
That is not let anyman know that drunkards will not enter the kingdom of heaven..unless what ?.....
[h=1]Colossians 2:8King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]8 [/SUP]Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
That is not let anyman know that drunkards will not enter the kingdom of heaven..unless what ?.....
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"The outstretched arms of Jesus exclude no one, not the drunk in the doorway, the panhandler on the street, gays and lesbians in their isolation, the most selfish and ungrateful in their cocoons, the most unjust of employers and the most overweening of snobs. The love of Christ embraces all without exception."
"The sinners to whom Jesus directed His messianic ministry were not those who skipped morning devotions or Sunday church. His ministry was to those whom society considered real sinners. They had done nothing to merit salvation. Yet they opened themselves to the gift that was offered them. On the other hand, the self-righteous placed their trust in the works of the Law and closed their hearts to the message of grace."
- Brennan Manning
"The sinners to whom Jesus directed His messianic ministry were not those who skipped morning devotions or Sunday church. His ministry was to those whom society considered real sinners. They had done nothing to merit salvation. Yet they opened themselves to the gift that was offered them. On the other hand, the self-righteous placed their trust in the works of the Law and closed their hearts to the message of grace."
- Brennan Manning
Sure many are called to love a life in righteousness towards being made holy. Few are chosen by the Father however. You think it is because you believe that you are found faithful? It is because of this work, Messiah's work on the stake that you even know of the need of salvation. It's just like the world is on fire and your position is to stand on the curb painted red with the blood of Messiah that says no parking. The other side is a green pasture full of grace and wonder but the church has put a stop sign up keeping many from taking a step to cross over to life. We are all on one or the other side of a mountain being asked to choose life and blessings or a curse and death. You are wrong! I have not picked up the law for my salvation neither do I do it because I must to be saved. I have thrown out the Sunday church worship because Sunday isn't Sabbath. I rejected Easter for the true festival of Passover. My Passover lamb is Yeshua Messiah. Etc... Don't forget the children of Israel melted gold in a furnace and worshipping the golden calf they fell to Elohim and where swallowed up by the grave. Do you think you are different? Do you think you can move forward with this knowledge of sinful worship and please him? No you have made Yeshua to be a lier by not guarding his rule of law as it is written. I would like to say law is of the spirit however your understanding showed me you aren't even understanding the basic truth of Scripture. Grace is the foundation of all faithful and obedient survants of YHWH Elohim from the beginning. This has not changed to my knowledge ever. You think I'm a legalistic observer because I said what I'm saved so I guard the Loving Instruction provided for us beforehand
You have failed to see how I do keep the commands. Instead you should have asked me instead of accusing me of sinning.
You have failed to see how I do keep the commands. Instead you should have asked me instead of accusing me of sinning.
i agree! If those things disqualified us then Heaven would be empty. There are no big sins and little sins, it's just sin. We are all guilty. There are no willful sins and accidental sins. All sins we do are our fault because we are human. We all sin because we put more emphasis on what we want than what God wants. That is Sin. We are all guilty.
Homosexuality is wrong but no worse than Greed, slander or simply not caring for your fellow man.
Homosexuality is wrong but no worse than Greed, slander or simply not caring for your fellow man.
You should pay attention to what YOU say....it was YOU that painted all SB into one group....start calling you the cake master....You take the cake along with ONE other for contradictions.....and your Ark analogy....misses the mark as well.......
NOAH was already SAVED before he built the ark....open your eyes!
NOAH was already SAVED before he built the ark....open your eyes!
Mat 21:43-44 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will PRODUCE ITS FRUITS. He who falls on this stone will be cut to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.”
Luke 17:7-10 “Suppose one of you had a SERVANT plowing or looking after the sheep. Would he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, ‘COME ALONG NOW SIT DOWN & EAT’? Would he not rather say, ‘Prepare my supper, GET YOURSELF READY and wait on me while I eat and drink; AFTER that you may eat and drink’? Would he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘WE ARE UNWORTHY SERVANTS; we have only done our duty.’”
A TRUE CHRISTIAN ALTHOUGH CONSIDERED AS A CHILD OF GOD IS STILL A SERVANT OF GOD AND MUST NOT EVEN THINK OTHERWISE BECAUSE GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED(gal 6:7) SOME CHRISTIANS HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THEIR WRONG NOTION OF SALVATION, BECAME SO CONFIDENT THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD IS NO LONGER NECESSARY AND ARE JUST “DEAD WORKS”. MAYBE THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE ALREADY “WORTHY” TO SIT ON GOD’S TABLE BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH(VOID OF WORKS), EVEN WITHOUT GOD’S APPROVAL.
WE ARE THE FELLOW WORKERS OF GOD(1cor 3:9), THE BODY OF CHRIST(eph 5:23) WHO DO HIS WORKS HERE ON EARTH(john 14:12, 1cor ch.12). ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST OR THE VINE BUT CONDEMNS GOOD WORKS & EVEN TEACHES AS A DOCTRINE THAT FAITH PLUS (GOOD) WORKS IS A LIE FROM HELL, IS HIMSELF CONDEMNED. HE IS ARROGANT & BOASTFUL YET UNDERSTANDS NOTHING. Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are DETESTABLE, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT for doing anything good.
1 Timothy 4:2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
Jude 1:16,19 These men are GRUMBLERS and FAULTFINDERS; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. THESE ARE THE MEN WHO DIVIDE YOU, who follow mere natural instinct and DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT.
***GOD PUTS A BELIEVER INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST TO DO HIS WORKS OF SALVATION,
(1 Timothy 4:16) Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, YOU WILL SAVE BOTH YOURSELF AND YOUR HEARERS.
1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
1 Corinthians 12:27-28 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it...
Ephesians 4:11-13 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for WORKS OF SERVICE so that the BODY OF CHRIST may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
SINCE IT IS THAT SAME BODY WHOM HE IS GOING TO SAVE-- (Ephesians 5:23)” For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which HE IS THE SAVIOR.”
--THE OBEDIENT & FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF GOD. (Matthew 25:21) “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’
ONCE HE’S INSIDE THE BODY(THE VINE) HE IS EXPECTED TO DO GOOD WORKS(PRODUCE FRUIT)
OTHERWISE HE WILL BE CUT OFF.
Romans 11:18,20-23 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. Granted. But they were broken off because of UNBELIEF, and you stand by FAITH. Do not be arrogant, but BE AFRAID. For if God did not spare the natural branches, HE WILL NOT SPARE YOU either. CONSIDER therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, PROVIDED THAT YOU CONTINUE in his kindness. Otherwise, YOU ALSO WILL BE CUT OFF.
(mat 18:8-9))If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
1 Corinthians 5:6-13 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast... I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that YOU MUST NOT ASSOCIATE with ANYONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF A BROTHER but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the CHURCH(body of Christ)? ARE YOU NOT TO JUDGE THOSE INSIDE? God will judge those outside. “EXPEL THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOU.”
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. ALWAYS GIVE YOURSELVES FULLY TO THE WORK OF THE LORD, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
1 Peter 2:16 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as SERVANTS OF GOD.
Luke 17:7-10 “Suppose one of you had a SERVANT plowing or looking after the sheep. Would he say to the servant when he comes in from the field, ‘COME ALONG NOW SIT DOWN & EAT’? Would he not rather say, ‘Prepare my supper, GET YOURSELF READY and wait on me while I eat and drink; AFTER that you may eat and drink’? Would he thank the servant because he did what he was told to do? So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘WE ARE UNWORTHY SERVANTS; we have only done our duty.’”
A TRUE CHRISTIAN ALTHOUGH CONSIDERED AS A CHILD OF GOD IS STILL A SERVANT OF GOD AND MUST NOT EVEN THINK OTHERWISE BECAUSE GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED(gal 6:7) SOME CHRISTIANS HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THEIR WRONG NOTION OF SALVATION, BECAME SO CONFIDENT THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT OBEDIENCE TO GOD IS NO LONGER NECESSARY AND ARE JUST “DEAD WORKS”. MAYBE THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE ALREADY “WORTHY” TO SIT ON GOD’S TABLE BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH(VOID OF WORKS), EVEN WITHOUT GOD’S APPROVAL.
WE ARE THE FELLOW WORKERS OF GOD(1cor 3:9), THE BODY OF CHRIST(eph 5:23) WHO DO HIS WORKS HERE ON EARTH(john 14:12, 1cor ch.12). ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST OR THE VINE BUT CONDEMNS GOOD WORKS & EVEN TEACHES AS A DOCTRINE THAT FAITH PLUS (GOOD) WORKS IS A LIE FROM HELL, IS HIMSELF CONDEMNED. HE IS ARROGANT & BOASTFUL YET UNDERSTANDS NOTHING. Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are DETESTABLE, DISOBEDIENT and UNFIT for doing anything good.
1 Timothy 4:2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
Jude 1:16,19 These men are GRUMBLERS and FAULTFINDERS; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. THESE ARE THE MEN WHO DIVIDE YOU, who follow mere natural instinct and DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT.
***GOD PUTS A BELIEVER INTO THE BODY OF CHRIST TO DO HIS WORKS OF SALVATION,
(1 Timothy 4:16) Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, YOU WILL SAVE BOTH YOURSELF AND YOUR HEARERS.
1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
1 Corinthians 12:27-28 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it...
Ephesians 4:11-13 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for WORKS OF SERVICE so that the BODY OF CHRIST may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
SINCE IT IS THAT SAME BODY WHOM HE IS GOING TO SAVE-- (Ephesians 5:23)” For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which HE IS THE SAVIOR.”
--THE OBEDIENT & FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF GOD. (Matthew 25:21) “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master’s happiness!’
ONCE HE’S INSIDE THE BODY(THE VINE) HE IS EXPECTED TO DO GOOD WORKS(PRODUCE FRUIT)
OTHERWISE HE WILL BE CUT OFF.
Romans 11:18,20-23 do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. Granted. But they were broken off because of UNBELIEF, and you stand by FAITH. Do not be arrogant, but BE AFRAID. For if God did not spare the natural branches, HE WILL NOT SPARE YOU either. CONSIDER therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, PROVIDED THAT YOU CONTINUE in his kindness. Otherwise, YOU ALSO WILL BE CUT OFF.
(mat 18:8-9))If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
1 Corinthians 5:6-13 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast... I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that YOU MUST NOT ASSOCIATE with ANYONE WHO CALLS HIMSELF A BROTHER but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the CHURCH(body of Christ)? ARE YOU NOT TO JUDGE THOSE INSIDE? God will judge those outside. “EXPEL THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOU.”
1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. ALWAYS GIVE YOURSELVES FULLY TO THE WORK OF THE LORD, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.
1 Peter 2:16 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as SERVANTS OF GOD.
It would seem you meant to say how you "keep shadows" and not the substance of the law which Christ alone can and did perfectly.. We are saved by grace through His work of faith and not that of our own self through dead ceremonial laws, seeing the sacrifices has ceased, having served their purpose the veil is rent.
The Sabbath is a ceremonial law, ceremonial laws are designed to preach the gospel of Christ in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand. Why would you worship a shadow of the good thing that has already come.Christ in the flesh?
The gospel in that respect was used through ceremonial laws.Its purpose was used to remind men they are sinners.The sacrifices are finished they ceased to be offered.
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered "year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect."For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.But in those sacrifices there is a "remembrance" again made of sins every year.Heb 10:1-3
The Sabbath is a ceremonial law, ceremonial laws are designed to preach the gospel of Christ in respect to the suffering of Christ beforehand. Why would you worship a shadow of the good thing that has already come.Christ in the flesh?
The gospel in that respect was used through ceremonial laws.Its purpose was used to remind men they are sinners.The sacrifices are finished they ceased to be offered.
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered "year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect."For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.But in those sacrifices there is a "remembrance" again made of sins every year.Heb 10:1-3
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You still fail to understand that the works re the result of JESUS dwelling in you dia faith and SALVATION<---BORN AGAIN
WAKE UP..>WORKS do NOT SAVE and or KEEP SAVED...if YOU believe that you believe a FALSE gospel and I SUGGEST Galatians 1, 3 and pay attention to the word ANOTHER, BEWITCHED, FOOLISH, SPIRIT and FLESH
WAKE UP..>WORKS do NOT SAVE and or KEEP SAVED...if YOU believe that you believe a FALSE gospel and I SUGGEST Galatians 1, 3 and pay attention to the word ANOTHER, BEWITCHED, FOOLISH, SPIRIT and FLESH
O dear friend of the cross I plead with you to see the err of this way your heart has lead you astray. You are confused about the Sabbath my friend.
Exodus 31:13
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am YHWH that doth sanctify you.
Exe. 20:12
Moreover, I gave them my Sabbaths, as a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am YHWH who sanctifies them.
Even if I where to go to the renewed covenant Scripture you would find nowhere the Apostles or Messiah told us that Sabbath has changed. God doesn't change his law or blessings, what he did do was fill it by the spirit of Messiah and took away any condemnation for approaching him. If you do have a fear good you should be afraid he has the power to put us wherever he wants. You know if you do my friends. One word pray on it meditate on it let the Holy Spirit reveal this word to you.
"Shemah" this word mean to hear. When I think of this word The words " if you have an ear to hear it" comes to mind. Shemah means to hear in Hebrew and as such in Hebrew or Aramaic it means a few things. To hear, then obey, then understand. It's just like the story of the children of Israel. Remember this is where they heard Elohim's voice like thunder. Anyway they heard the word spoken from the mountain, obeyed, and that was supposed to bring them understanding. Well we know what happened they followed the desires of their hearts in stead of seeking Elohim in His good works in order to understand Him.
The sacrifices you speak of did cleanse sin as Shaul shares however where the law failed was at converting the heart of man. This also is why Messiah came, and o did he prove his worthyness to God and among Men. These "shadows" you speak of are your ideas and not what Shaul is speaking of.
Exodus 31:13
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am YHWH that doth sanctify you.
Exe. 20:12
Moreover, I gave them my Sabbaths, as a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am YHWH who sanctifies them.
Even if I where to go to the renewed covenant Scripture you would find nowhere the Apostles or Messiah told us that Sabbath has changed. God doesn't change his law or blessings, what he did do was fill it by the spirit of Messiah and took away any condemnation for approaching him. If you do have a fear good you should be afraid he has the power to put us wherever he wants. You know if you do my friends. One word pray on it meditate on it let the Holy Spirit reveal this word to you.
"Shemah" this word mean to hear. When I think of this word The words " if you have an ear to hear it" comes to mind. Shemah means to hear in Hebrew and as such in Hebrew or Aramaic it means a few things. To hear, then obey, then understand. It's just like the story of the children of Israel. Remember this is where they heard Elohim's voice like thunder. Anyway they heard the word spoken from the mountain, obeyed, and that was supposed to bring them understanding. Well we know what happened they followed the desires of their hearts in stead of seeking Elohim in His good works in order to understand Him.
The sacrifices you speak of did cleanse sin as Shaul shares however where the law failed was at converting the heart of man. This also is why Messiah came, and o did he prove his worthyness to God and among Men. These "shadows" you speak of are your ideas and not what Shaul is speaking of.