Mental illness, demons and the BIBLE

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Ariel82

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You make a great point that is overlooked by most people especially the people that teach the word of God.

Before Jesus they had no Bible therefore no guide book so those scriptures about unconditional forgiveness were for them not us,we've had the Bible,his advice,for thousands of years.

We aren't supposed to live as though we have no idea what decency is what kindness is what common sense is,thats what He teaches us with the Bible.

Any adult in this day and age not aware of how to be a decent person doesn't have that awareness because there parents didn't teach them and they probably belong in hell and any that are aware and do it with repentance in mind belong in hell also.

All repentance is to someone with the life experience to know right from wrong is a means of taking advantage of God.
You are absolutely correct,that's where we are now and the world is how it is now,due to unconditional forgiveness there is no such thing as "sin" anymore.
I defer to my post about godly repentance and worldly sorrow.

Folks fool themselves and do not read about how God chastens and disciplines all His children. If He is not teaching you right from wrong through His holy spirit, then you are not His child and will end up in hell.

Unless by God's mercy and grace, he gives you a saving faith. God will call people to repentance. He will send people like prophets of old to proclaim the gospel to the lost sheep. However people will either truly repent or chose to believe the lies the Enemy whispers.

As you already noted many believe and preach a false gospel and have a false idea of who God is.

How can you tell truth from lies?

God places the ability to discern and reason in our hearts and minds if we truly seek Him.

We have to want to know God's will and not just want a get out of hell free card.

True repentance unto salvation, not worldly sorrow unto death.
 
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But back on topic those that say schizophrenia is caused by demons actually have a point because the nephillum who exist among us have the ability to go into another dimension where they are invisible to us and can tolk to us while invisible,they are among us and most are unaware because they are human/demon hybrids and yheir physical form that we see is human.

I don't think that all cases of schizophrenia are attributable to them although I could be wrong.

Ill probably start a thread on this in the conspiracy,most won't believe and those that do probably are nephillum.

Disembodied voices which is a symptom of schizophrenia can be the nephillum other symptoms of schizophrenia can also be attributed to them like the chaos in the mind is something that they can cause and do cause that's their whole point of existence is chaos satans ultimate goal.
Why nephilim and not just demons?

Jesus was able to see demons and angels.

Elisha saw a Legion of angels when his helper didn't until he prayed and God open His spiritual eyes.

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And Elisha prayed, "Open his eyes, LORD, so that he may see." Then the LORD opened the servant's eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

Schizophrenics fall into two areas for me: those who have health issues that causes them to hallucinate and make up things in their minds.

And those who have the God given gift of seeing the spiritual world, but have rejected God and His rules and have been driven crazy by deceiving spirits like king Saul was in his later years. They believe the lies demons tell them, instead of the reality God shows them.

Some people seek to have their "spiritual eye" open and many religions of the world claim they can help you do this.

I believe that being able to see demons,means you are more likely to be possessed by them or to believe their lies. Especially if you do not strive to live a godly life or have been saved by the blood of the Lamb and have His Holy Spirit seal and protection.

The first need medical help to cure their physical ailment.

The second needs spiritual counseling and discernment to understand what it is that they are seeing and tell the difference between reality and lies.
 
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I could share more but I prefer not to be mocked or falsely labeled.
 
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But back on topic those that say schizophrenia is caused by demons actually have a point because the nephillum who exist among us have the ability to go into another dimension where they are invisible to us and can tolk to us while invisible,they are among us and most are unaware because they are human/demon hybrids and yheir physical form that we see is human.

I don't think that all cases of schizophrenia are attributable to them although I could be wrong.

Ill probably start a thread on this in the conspiracy,most won't believe and those that do probably are nephillum.

Disembodied voices which is a symptom of schizophrenia can be the nephillum other symptoms of schizophrenia can also be attributed to them like the chaos in the mind is something that they can cause and do cause that's their whole point of existence is chaos satans ultimate goal.
 
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Ariel82

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But back on topic those that say schizophrenia is caused by demons actually have a point because the nephillum who exist among us have the ability to go into another dimension where they are invisible to us and can tolk to us while invisible,they are among us and most are unaware because they are human/demon hybrids and yheir physical form that we see is human.

I don't think that all cases of schizophrenia are attributable to them although I could be wrong.

Ill probably start a thread on this in the conspiracy,most won't believe and those that do probably are nephillum.

Disembodied voices which is a symptom of schizophrenia can be the nephillum other symptoms of schizophrenia can also be attributed to them like the chaos in the mind is something that they can cause and do cause that's their whole point of existence is chaos satans ultimate goal.
Your belief about nephilim is not biblical based.

It is a lie.

The bible calls those beings demons and unclean spirits, NOT nephilim.


Can demons take physical form? I don't believe they can. I believe they lost their physical bodies when they were cast out of Heaven and that is why they posses humans..that is Why we have demon possession.

However, I do believe God's angels can have physical bodies. For example the angels that visited Abraham and Lot before Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. They had physical bodies.
However feel free to start a thread in the Conspiracy forum.
 
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They are demons because their demon self takes precedence over their human self but in our world they are in demon form.
 
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Show from the Bible where demons have physical form and can mate with humans without demonic possesion of a human?

Demons can NOT manifest physically but can be seen spiritually. They can posses people but demon possessed people are not BORN half HUMAN and half demon.

It's a lie, but I will leave it in God's hands to show you that its a lie.
 
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But back on topic those that say schizophrenia is caused by demons actually have a point because the nephillum who exist among us have the ability to go into another dimension where they are invisible to us and can tolk to us while invisible,they are among us and most are unaware because they are human/demon hybrids and yheir physical form that we see is human.

I don't think that all cases of schizophrenia are attributable to them although I could be wrong.

Ill probably start a thread on this in the conspiracy,most won't believe and those that do probably are nephillum.

Disembodied voices which is a symptom of schizophrenia can be the nephillum other symptoms of schizophrenia can also be attributed to them like the chaos in the mind is something that they can cause and do cause that's their whole point of existence is chaos satans ultimate goal.
The Nephilim do not exist among us. The angels that forsook their first estate are bound in chains of darkness until the end as the servant of Christ, Jude, tells us.

Demons are something else entirely. It is no conspiracy theory. The demons are the no-gods which the gentiles worshipped and still worship. Literally the word demon comes from the greek word daimon, which is what they called their false gods. Just like the Apostle Paul says, the Gentiles sacrifice to devils. This is particularly why so-called "modern medicine" and the modern medical establishments both in the West and the East should be scrutinized by Christians more carefully because its doctrines are founded by the worshippers of demons.

All one with a mental malady needs to do is to love God and have faith that Jesus will restore their mind. If they don't love God, and they do not keep God in their knowledge, in their mind, then God is simply going to turn them over to a reprobate mind just like Apostle Paul says. Consider also the example of Nebuchadnezzar. God made Nebuchadnezzar go insane because of his pride, but when Nebuchadnezzar lifted up his eyes and acknowledged that God does rule, he was restored by God and he praised the Most High.

Maybe some people don't know how to love God. Just start small, just start by talking to Him (acknowledging Him) and telling Him things you like about Him (praises).
 
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I believe that the best way to handle a problem is to first go to God through faith in Jesus Christ. I am not against a drug if you are in pain. If I wake up with a head ach the first thing that I do is pray and then I might take a Tylenol. I realize the Tylenol does not cure my problem it only alleviates the pain, I am believing that God will take care of the physical problem but I see no reason in the meanwhile that I should not do something to take care of the pain. I think we all have mental problems of some sort or another, if I did not believe it before I came into this forum I surely do now(he,he). Satan loves to mess with our minds, other then a physical problem I just do not see a serious mental problem without some kind of demonic influence. I am not writing of demon possession but rather oppression by demonic forces. All Christians experience this, and so do people of the world.
 
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imfine: Bud you need to get saved before it is too late, if you die without real faith in Jesus Christ it is hell. You get saved by making a commitment of your life to God and then asking Jesus to be your Savior.
 
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Sevenseas, I haven't skirted the question but answered you as it was given to me from the Bible. It's how I believe and live my Christian life. I already addressed that in the previous posts. Blame was not put on anyone in my posts. I believe the Bible to say by His stripes we are healed. That is what I believe. If you and others don't believe that includes healing today., you are free to do so. You're not alone and neither am I. So we can't go by how many people believe the same as we do., we have to go on what the Bible says and the Holy Spirit has shown us.
Joanie ~ I did not ask, nor am I struggling with the question 'why doesn't God heal everyone?' This is perhaps something that you are questioning, but I did not ask it and I don't know why you seem to think that I did.

Blame? was there something about blaming? if there was I missed it and I know I didn't bring that up either

Are you perhaps confusing my posts with posts from others?

My question has not at all been addressed by you, or anyone else here actually, so here it is again:

Does it not indicate something missing in the equation for people to keep saying part of the atonement is healing, when Jesus healed BEFORE He died? He did not have to die to heal...yet, He had to die for our sins to be forgiven.

It seems to me this is a major point that is conveniently overlooked.

I would like to see that addressed. That, and the fact that people were healed in the Old Testament, yet, we know that the blood of bulls and rams could not actually forgive sins. ONLY the blood of Christ does that.

So how about it? Someone who thinks healing is for everyone (even though most are not healed) want to address that?

notice, please, that there is nothing there that suggests any sort of blame or any questions regarding why everyone is not healed

God healed in the Old Testament, I included scripture in my post 27 that referenced that and I also pointed out that Jesus healed BEFORE the crucifixion. He did NOT have to die to heal, and since God already has/had demonstrated a complete capacity to heal and a desire to heal and the mercy and grace to heal in the OLD testament, why do people reference healing for ALL because of the atonement?

I would like to point out that EVERYONE is invited by God through His Son to be saved...whosoever will, right ? but NOWHERE do we read whosoever will may be healed

your verses are not answering my question.

I stated more than once that I do believe God heals today, so kindly do not question my faith again.

I believe that deliverance from the demonic is also healing, but I get the impression from your posts you are speaking more along the lines of physical healing from sickness etc

How on earth anyone at all can insist healing is for everyone is not basing that belief on the Bible because God says that exactly no where in the Bible. He does say we can be healed and He does say to pray and in fact Jesus encourages us to pray at all times and never give up.

I can insist the earth is flat, but that will not make so. Healing of all physical ailments is not a part of the atonement or God would not have healed until AFTER Christ arose from the dead!!! Notice that all animal sacrifices were ONLY a stop gap measure...ONLY Jesus blood actually creates the perfect forgiveness to present ourselves holy to God through Him

Salvation from sins IS the atonement.

 
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The Nephilim do not exist among us. The angels that forsook their first estate are bound in chains of darkness until the end as the servant of Christ, Jude, tells us.

Demons are something else entirely. It is no conspiracy theory. The demons are the no-gods which the gentiles worshipped and still worship. Literally the word demon comes from the greek word daimon, which is what they called their false gods. Just like the Apostle Paul says, the Gentiles sacrifice to devils. This is particularly why so-called "modern medicine" and the modern medical establishments both in the West and the East should be scrutinized by Christians more carefully because its doctrines are founded by the worshippers of demons.

All one with a mental malady needs to do is to love God and have faith that Jesus will restore their mind. If they don't love God, and they do not keep God in their knowledge, in their mind, then God is simply going to turn them over to a reprobate mind just like Apostle Paul says. Consider also the example of Nebuchadnezzar. God made Nebuchadnezzar go insane because of his pride, but when Nebuchadnezzar lifted up his eyes and acknowledged that God does rule, he was restored by God and he praised the Most High.

Maybe some people don't know how to love God. Just start small, just start by talking to Him (acknowledging Him) and telling Him things you like about Him (praises).


please reference scripture that states loving God will heal automatically

if you cannot do that, then perhaps you should stop judging those who you say do not love God because they are not healed

if the 3 year old son of a Christian couple dies from leukemia, does that mean the parents do not love God or does that mean the 3 year old child does not love God?

I can hardly handle comments that judge others the way your post seems to indicate you do
 
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The Nephilim do not exist among us. The angels that forsook their first estate are bound in chains of darkness until the end as the servant of Christ, Jude, tells us.
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Demons are something else entirely. It is no conspiracy theory. The demons are the no-gods which the gentiles worshipped and still worship. Literally the word demon comes from the greek word daimon, which is what they called their false gods. Just like the Apostle Paul says, the Gentiles sacrifice to devils. This is particularly why so-called "modern medicine" and the modern medical establishments both in the West and the East should be scrutinized by Christians more carefully because its doctrines are founded by the worshippers of demons. .
requires biblical proof

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All one with a mental malady needs to do is to love God and have faith that Jesus will restore their mind.
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disagree.

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If they don't love God, and they do not keep God in their knowledge, in their mind, then God is simply going to turn them over to a reprobate mind just like Apostle Paul says. Consider also the example of Nebuchadnezzar. God made Nebuchadnezzar go insane because of his pride, but when Nebuchadnezzar lifted up his eyes and acknowledged that God does rule, he was restored by God and he praised the Most High. .
Neb never worshipped God.

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Maybe some people don't know how to love God. Just start small, just start by talking to Him (acknowledging Him) and telling Him things you like about Him (praises).
No you start with the gospel and being born again, but you don't want to talk about that.

It starts with God's love, not ours.


So many lies its not worth pointing out since you refuse to answer any of my questions
 
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There's definitely some on here undiagnosed..
 
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Wait....this thread isn't about "healing" and I can see how the discussion could go off course if we continue this line (aka, I am already confused and need to re-read a few statements because I feel like I missed something...did anyone say they believe God will heal all physical illness if folks just have enough faith? Cuz I missed that post.)
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[FONT=&quot]Jesus provides healing for all illness including mental illness. All sickness is because of the fall of Adam and sin came down on the human race. The good news is Jesus provided healing for all illness. Here are some verses;

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Surely He has borne our griefs (sicknesses, weaknesses, and distresses) and carried our sorrows and pains [of punishment], yet we [ignorantly] considered Him stricken, smitten, and afflicted by God [as if with leprosy]. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities; the chastisement [needful to obtain] peace and well-being for us was upon Him, and with the stripes [that wounded] Him we are healed and made whole.
— Isaiah 53:4–5 (AMP)

But He was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.
— Isaiah 53:5 (NLT)

… who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.
— 1 Peter 2:24

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
— Romans 8:11

He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?
— Romans 8:32

Suddenly, a man with leprosy approached Him and knelt before Him. “Lord,” the man said, “if You are willing, You can heal me and make me clean.” Jesus reached out and touched him. “I am willing,” He said. “Be healed!” And instantly the leprosy disappeared.
— Matthew 8:2–3 (NLT)

“Lord, help!” they cried in their trouble, and He saved them from their distress. He sent out His word and healed them, snatching them from the door of death.
— Psalm 107:19–20 (NLT)

For He will rescue you from every trap and protect you from deadly disease.
— Psalm 91:3 (NLT)

He also brought them out with silver and gold, and there was none feeble among His tribes.
— Psalm 105:37

Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.
— 3 John 1:2 (NASB)

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have [it] more abundantly.”
— John 10:10

Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night, nor the arrow that flies in the day. Do not dread the disease that stalks in darkness, nor the disaster that strikes at midday. Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you, these evils will not touch you.
— Psalm 91:5–7 (NLT)

With long life I will satisfy him, and show him My salvation.
— Psalm 91:16

“…I am the Lord who heals you.”
— Exodus 15:26


“I will give you back your health and heal your wounds,” says the Lord.
— Jeremiah 30:17 (NLT)

Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases.— Psalm 103:2–3

My son, give attention to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart; for they [are] life to those who find them, and health to all their flesh.
— Proverbs 4:20-22
Everyone Who Came To Jesus Was Healed

And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.
— Matthew 4:23

News about Him spread as far as Syria, and people soon began bringing to Him all who were sick. And whatever their sickness or disease, or if they were demon-possessed or epileptic or paralyzed—He healed them all.
— Matthew 4:24 (NLT)

When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” Jesus said to him, “I will go and heal him.”
— Matthew 8: 5–7 (NIV)

When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: “He Himself took our infirmities and bore [our] sicknesses.”
— Matthew 8:16–1

…Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and go home!” And the man jumped up and went home!
— Matthew 9:6–7 (NLT)

Then great multitudes came to Him, having with them [the] lame, blind, mute, maimed, and many others; and they laid them down at Jesus’ feet, and He healed them.
— Matthew 15:30

Jesus had compassion on them and touched their eyes. Immediately they received their sight and followed Him.
— Matthew 20:34 (NIV)

And He entered the synagogue again, and a man was there who had a withered hand. So they watched Him closely, whether He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him. And He said to the man who had the withered hand, “Step forward.” Then He said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they kept silent. And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched [it] out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other.
— Mark 3:1–5

A woman in the crowd had suffered for twelve years with constant bleeding. She had suffered a great deal from many doctors, and over the years she had spent everything she had to pay them, but she had gotten no better. In fact, she had gotten worse. She had heard about Jesus, so she came up behind Him through the crowd and touched His robe. For she thought to herself, “If I can just touch His robe, I will be healed.” Immediately the bleeding stopped, and she could feel in her body that she had been healed of her terrible condition.
— Mark 5:25–29 (NLT)

Jesus stopped and said, “Call him.” So they called to the blind man, “Cheer up! On your feet! He’s calling you.” Throwing his cloak aside, he jumped to his feet and came to Jesus. “What do you want Me to do for you?” Jesus asked him. The blind man said, “Rabbi, I want to see.” “Go,” said Jesus, “your faith has healed you.” Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.
— Mark 10:49–52 (NIV)

When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them.
— Luke 4:40

And the whole multitude sought to touch Him, for power went out from Him and healed [them] all.
— Luke 6:19

A funeral procession was coming out as He approached the village gate. The young man who had died was a widow’s only son, and a large crowd from the village was with her. When the Lord saw her, His heart overflowed with compassion. “Don’t cry!” He said. Then He walked over to the coffin and touched it, and the bearers stopped. “Young man,” He said, “I tell you, get up.” Then the dead boy sat up and began to talk! And Jesus gave him back to his mother.
— Luke 7:12–15 (NLT)

And a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. When Jesus saw her, He called her forward and said to her, “Woman, you are set free from your infirmity.” Then He put His hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God.
— Luke 13:11–13 (NIV)

One of the men lying there had been sick for thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him and knew he had been ill for a long time, He asked him, “Would you like to get well?” “I can’t, sir,” the sick man said, “for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me.” Jesus told him, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and walk!” Instantly, the man was healed! He rolled up his sleeping mat and began walking!
— John 5:5–9 (NLT)

“…how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.”
— Acts 10:38
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(Also addressed back then too. A transliteration of a transliteration of a transliteration -- NLT -- isn't really the Bible anymore. It's what people want the Bible to say.)
 
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It is not an easy thing to do because it is depleting the avenue of our flesh (minds) to not apply the suffering in the world and instead to apply His promises regardless of what we see to our right side and to our left sides. It's at first a major fight to begin to learn how to put more merit on what the Bible says vs what our feelings and our eyes and our friends who are as it were screaming at us with human common sense reasoning.

Unless there is a constant reminder and application of the truths and promises. (be ye being filled with the Holy Spirit) Because for sure the enemy will use the world and the flesh to keep our minds on ours and other people's current situations and not on the promises. As I shared the other day., since being baptized in the Holy Spirit my Christian walk has changed drastically.



Be being filled is a correct translation from the Greek with regards to the Holy Spirit

I am not floundering in questions, once again, I have addressed much of what you are currently and seemingly only coming to believe or learn about in your life now. I've been around the block a few times, so I don't address what I do not know and I don't ask questions out of the air.

My advice to you would be to acknowledge that no amount of wishing, working up faith or whatever, repeating verses that you call healing verses (they are NOT all verses pertaining to healing but that is what happens when someone applies out of context scripture to something they are determined to prove true for whatever reason) will heal everyone and in fact, most will not be healed.

HOWEVER, whosoever will is welcomed to be saved.

There is no whosoever will, can be healed of whatsoever they will.

If you do not see that, really, nothing more to say. If you follow a teacher or preacher or whoever, who insists healing is a God given right? rather than an act of grace that God mercifully extends? then, I would quit following that person

when a person builds their life around a certain type of teaching or one person's preaching, they are creating a bubble that will only let in so much truth

no doubt, Joseph Prince has some good things to say. I don't know, I watch him. However, everyone has error of some kind which is one reason why God advises us not to hang our hopes on people and at that point you will most likely state you are not, but your advice to me, seems to indicate you think I have a problem with healing. I don't.

please understand that I will not respond to a litany of scripture that you believe supports a teaching that is not scriptural, irregardless of how 'good' it makes people feel

I just think I will post again for the benefit of anyone else reading this, I DO BELIEVE, I AFFIRM, THAT GOD DOES HEAL BUT PEOPLE NEED TO BE HONEST AND ACCEPT THAT NO AMOUNT OF FAITH HEALS EVERYONE

and I am not asking why God does not heal everyone anymore than I am asking Him where the unicorns went :rolleyes:
 
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What you are saying I think is a perfect example of why I don't have anything to do with pharmaceutical companies and the drugs that they get rich off of.

It sounds like you are talking about idiosyncrasies EVERYONE has them but some people like myself have them to a greater degree which can make them dysfunctional in todays screwed up society where those that don't strive for perfection or at least the image of perfection are considered strange or awkward at best and criminally minded at worst.

The pharmaceutical companies invent different degrees of "illnesses" so that they can reach a greater range of consumer base,they give different stages of "illness" for natural disorders that way they can sell more drugs to sometimes the same person, I've heard people say something like "I have stage one AND stage two" of a certain illness so that they have to take 2 different medications this is a great business model they use it in sales all of the time for everything not just pharmaceuticals.

I agree that people can have idiosyncrasies that are so extreme that they can be considered a illness but the truth is that with current technology we don't understand the human brain well enough to pinpoint cause or cure for these disorders,the pharmaceutical companies have exploited that ignorance to there benefit.

Im sorry my mind gets sidetracked so I lost focus of the point that I was trying to make if I regain focus I'll get back to you.
You really need a "how CC works" lesson here. lol

When you're responding back to someone, underneath the post is a menu bar. On the right side of that bar two choices are "Reply" and "Reply with Quotes." If'n you want to give a general response to everyone (or no one in particular, however you see that), then click "Reply." If'n you want to talk to one particular person -- respond back to something someone in particular said -- then click "Reply with Quotes." It then includes a complete quote of what the person said, so you can refer back to it, if you want. And, better yet, it gives the person the correct idea of who "you" is when you are referring to "you."

How CC Works lesson is finished.

Now, my question for you, Imfinallyfree. Who are you talking to? How to answer depends on who you are talking to. Because mental illness isn't idiosyncrasy. Liking Country music or putting cranberry juice in your coffee is idiosyncrasy. lol
 
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I meant to say I don't know about Joseph Prince because I do NOT watch him.

I ran out of time to correct, phone call in between, so sorry.

I don't watch him.

reference my post 137
 
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I'm chuckling here. You probably don't remember this, but when you joined this site (which now feels like a long time ago), I was in this very conversation you are now having with JoanieMarie, and you kind of thought I was going off on her.

This is it. This is what happens every time. It circles something like this:
-- Jesus heals everyone.
-- No one else on here believes Jesus heals at all, but the Holy Spirit showed me that Jesus heals everyone who believes.
-- Something is wrong with you, if you do not believe this/that Jesus can heal/that Jesus does heal.
-- Something is wrong with everyone because I know Jesus heals everyone.
-- I'm not special for knowing that Jesus heals everyone. You will get there yourself when you believe right, but...
-- Jesus heals everyone.

There really is no outside that circle. I've seen many try to break the circle long enough that she could answer a question outside that circle, but then we are all downers/nonbelievers/depressing/etc. because we do not know that Jesus heals everyone. We don't think Jesus heals anyone.

And this is right about the time when you and I first met, and you thought I was being tough on her.

I tried to tell you then. Maybe you can understand now. She promotes Joseph Prince. It's a bad gospel. It is preparing for the big game by psyche yourself up enough that it can happen, if you just believe hard enough, and that is the only purpose of it -- to be healed and get what you want out of God. And when honestly faced, it does not work. BUT my fear is that if she keeps preaching this some babe in Christ is going to think it's the gospel, try to get the healing, and when that fails, blames God instead of the false gospel being received.

I hope you can reach her when so many others have tried.


you know, this is just about exhausting

I see what you are saying

the following, from your post 59, pretty much sums up what I think I am seeing

This is it. This is what happens every time. It circles something like this:
-- Jesus heals everyone.
-- No one else on here believes Jesus heals at all, but the Holy Spirit showed me that Jesus heals everyone who believes.
-- Something is wrong with you, if you do not believe this/that Jesus can heal/that Jesus does heal.
-- Something is wrong with everyone because I know Jesus heals everyone.
-- I'm not special for knowing that Jesus heals everyone. You will get there yourself when you believe right, but...
-- Jesus heals everyone.
a grade 3 reading course with the required passing grade including comprehension might go a long way

I hope God can reach those who insist on what is not insistable (take that spell check)

I never asked any of the questions that I am being given answers to; mind you if I were, I would not find half the references applicable to the questions I am not asking

mercy! I'm not a genius, but people! you cannot insist on something you want to believe that is not true and insist that it is only not true if you don't believe it

ps...sorry Lynn. I don't remember it. Maybe I did not understand all that was being said because I sure do not agree with what is being presented at this moment