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God sanctified us the moment we were saved, That sanctification has NOTHING to do wiht how good we are. or how bad we are. It has to do with God sanctifying us.
If we are talking about CONDITIONAL sanctification (how our lives actually are in how we walk ) then no, That i snot part of th egospel
I was trying to differentiate.
Many in here scream of works, And attack people who call the out. They are teaching CONDITIONAL sanctification is how one gets saved or keeps their salvation.
There is where you confusion comes in, As Said, You op says conditional sanctification (walking in righteousness) is part of the gospel. that is not true.
WHO DOES THIS? WHO TEACHES THIS?
I hear this in this room as an argument so many times, I am sicked by it.. I mean seriously, is not this attack on the gospel of grace so old that people can not see it? And people wonder why people like myself and others get so angry at those attacking Gods gospel.
Good works is conditional sanctification. The more good works you do, the more conditionally sanctified you are, the more your living resembles Christ.. The less you do, the less sanctified you are..
God tells us to work out our salvation, That is conditional sanctification, it is living out what you are (your position) it is not the gospel. It is not how one gets saved. Yet people in here open thread after thread saying it is how you get saved.
it does absolutely no good to tell a dead person how to live in christ, If people do not have the correct gospel.
We can not talk about sanctification in here, because we are to busy trying to separate the works salvationist, from the grace salvationist.
telling a worker or unsaved person how to live is meaningless.. They can act like a new creature, but they are not one yet, and all their works will be as filthy rags,, These are the people on that day who will say lord lord, have we not done these works in your name, And jesus will say depart from me, I never knew you.
why? they were NEVER SAVED TO BEGIN WITH..
If we are talking about CONDITIONAL sanctification (how our lives actually are in how we walk ) then no, That i snot part of th egospel
I was trying to differentiate.
Many in here scream of works, And attack people who call the out. They are teaching CONDITIONAL sanctification is how one gets saved or keeps their salvation.
There is where you confusion comes in, As Said, You op says conditional sanctification (walking in righteousness) is part of the gospel. that is not true.
WHO DOES THIS? WHO TEACHES THIS?
I hear this in this room as an argument so many times, I am sicked by it.. I mean seriously, is not this attack on the gospel of grace so old that people can not see it? And people wonder why people like myself and others get so angry at those attacking Gods gospel.
Good works is conditional sanctification. The more good works you do, the more conditionally sanctified you are, the more your living resembles Christ.. The less you do, the less sanctified you are..
God tells us to work out our salvation, That is conditional sanctification, it is living out what you are (your position) it is not the gospel. It is not how one gets saved. Yet people in here open thread after thread saying it is how you get saved.
it does absolutely no good to tell a dead person how to live in christ, If people do not have the correct gospel.
We can not talk about sanctification in here, because we are to busy trying to separate the works salvationist, from the grace salvationist.
telling a worker or unsaved person how to live is meaningless.. They can act like a new creature, but they are not one yet, and all their works will be as filthy rags,, These are the people on that day who will say lord lord, have we not done these works in your name, And jesus will say depart from me, I never knew you.
why? they were NEVER SAVED TO BEGIN WITH..
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Again, I ask you. How did jesus and the apostles treat the pharisees?
do you treat A person who claims to talk for God and claims he has walked with God for a few decades, the same as a person who is just trying to ask about God. No..
and second, A legalist tryign to talk to a babe and tell them how righteous they have to be or they could lose salvation is not a danger to them?
I can not curse anyone (although I have been cursed by a few..lol)
But I can confront them, and call them out byu spreading the truth..
do you treat A person who claims to talk for God and claims he has walked with God for a few decades, the same as a person who is just trying to ask about God. No..
and second, A legalist tryign to talk to a babe and tell them how righteous they have to be or they could lose salvation is not a danger to them?
I can not curse anyone (although I have been cursed by a few..lol)
But I can confront them, and call them out byu spreading the truth..
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So while you were a legalistic works salvationist, would you have called yourself as unsaved and destined to hell?
"We can not talk about sanctification in here, because we are to busy trying to separate the works salvationist, from the grace salvationist."
Sounds like you haven't stopped "working".
Perhaps you will stop being so busy wolf hunting and making excuses about what you can't do.
Maybe it's time to follow Jesus instead of just talking about Him.
Jesus said let the dead bury the dead, we are called to speak life into the world.
Perhaps if we spent more time talking about sanctification and living what Jesus teaches instead of chasing wolves, we might display Christ to a dying world.
"We can not talk about sanctification in here, because we are to busy trying to separate the works salvationist, from the grace salvationist."
Sounds like you haven't stopped "working".
Perhaps you will stop being so busy wolf hunting and making excuses about what you can't do.
Maybe it's time to follow Jesus instead of just talking about Him.
Jesus said let the dead bury the dead, we are called to speak life into the world.
Perhaps if we spent more time talking about sanctification and living what Jesus teaches instead of chasing wolves, we might display Christ to a dying world.
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