The imputed righteousness of Christ Impugned

[Sully]

You got that right bro....to deny the imputed righteousness of Christ is to deny Christ and his work = lost!

I think there's scriptural instructions for such. Something to do with sand and sandals...

 

[PeterJens]

This ^^^^ is abysmally heartbreaking. Pharisaic to the core.

Hatred of righteous behaviour is not a spiritual attitude, it is just rebellion.
We are called to hunger and thirst for righteousness because we will be filled.

Those who reject and judge righteousness will be judged for their sin, because
the righteousness of Christ is what saves us, and by judging it you reject it and
the salvation it brings.

 

[Sully]

Hatred of righteous behaviour is not a spiritual attitude, it is just rebellion.
We are called to hunger and thirst for righteousness because we will be filled.

Those who reject and judge righteousness will be judged for their sin, because
the righteousness of Christ is what saves us, and by judging it you reject it and
the salvation it brings.

You forgot to quote "righteous" or you could cut the quotations and say self righteous...

 

[Utah]

Well guys thanks for the show.
This is where the fruit makes a difference.

The imputed version puts the believer with no responsibility or blow back
from their behaviour. Some say oh loss of rewards etc.

But the whole point has always been about relationship and not destroying
or hurting that which is life, yet this theology say you do not care a fig about
the relationship, because nothing is on the line. Though God time and again
says behaviour matters, it is one of the foundations of blessing or cursing
and judgement, nope everything is different, we got the special Jesus pass.

I remember the story of the two prophets. The first was told do not eat anything
with anyone, but go give my message and leave. The second prophet went up to
the first and said God has changed His mind and says it is ok to eat with me.

So he did, and then God executed judgement, and sent a lion who attacked and
killed the prophet who had disobeyed Gods command.

God does not change His limits or ways, He fulfills them which is very different.
It is up to the believer to decide, and God is testing you worthiness and standing
before Him. Jesus was tested and so are we. Know your God or terrible things
will befall you.

That took place on the other side of the Cross. Get with the times man. Grace through faith is a beautiful thing, and it happens to be reality.

 

[dcontroversal]

You forgot to quote "righteous" or you could cut the quotations and say self righteous...

And yet he denies the imputed righteousness of Christ as a cheap trick that does not work ad then posts the following....this dude is all over the board....twists scripture and then attempts to cover up his denial by seemingly to agree......I have only seen such vacillation by about 4 to 7 members on CC....two of them being Brits.....

Originally Posted by PeterJens Hatred of righteous behaviour is not a spiritual attitude, it is just rebellion.
We are called to hunger and thirst for righteousness because we will be filled.

Those who reject and judge righteousness will be judged for their sin, because
the righteousness of Christ is what saves us, and by judging it you reject it and
the salvation it brings.

 

[Utah]

Hatred of righteous behaviour is not a spiritual attitude, it is just rebellion.
We are called to hunger and thirst for righteousness because we will be filled.

Those who reject and judge righteousness will be judged for their sin, because
the righteousness of Christ is what saves us, and by judging it you reject it and
the salvation it brings.

No one hates righteousness. Try again.

What we hate is the concept of those who fail to give Jesus His due.

 

[dcontroversal]

No one hates righteousness. Try again.

What we hate is the concept of those who fail to give Jesus His due.

NO doubt........and I fully agree with this.....

 

[willybob]

This ^^^^ is abysmally heartbreaking. Pharisaic to the core.

Your understandings are maligned and filled with emotional one liners also....We are to pick up our cross in obedience to the truth just as Jesus did...Flesh always argues in favor of a slothful way, thus remaining double minded wanting the best of both worlds...

 

[willybob]

The false Pundits believe in positional righteousness rather than manifest righteousness. "ie" Exclusionary verses reality

 

[Utah]

Your understandings are maligned and filled with emotional one liners also....We are to pick up our cross in obedience to the truth just as Jesus did...Flesh always argues in favor of a slothful way, thus remaining double minded wanting the best of both worlds...

Everyone one of us picks up our cross, but the power and majesty of our salvation is Christ's alone. Works minded folks put the essence of salvation on themselves; people of faith put the essence of salvation on Jesus.

 

[willybob]

God forbid your faith-lacking foolishness.
Mark 10:14, Luke 12:32, John 3:16-17, Romans 10:9-10

You cant change the truth, we will all be judged by our deeds done in faith, those that have already hardened their hearts beyond receiving anything from God will be wanting in the balance, and saying Lord Lord, didn't we??? and He will say depart from Me ye workers of iniquity...

 

[willybob]

Who was it that despised righteous works from the beginning??? Oh yes; it was Cain, he despised his brothers works because they were righteous, and his own were evil....The workers of iniquity despise the doers of righteousness all through the bible..

 

[dcontroversal]

In the grace you are, having been saved out of faith <--positional

A new creation in Christ Jesus<--positional

In the grace wherein ye stand <---Positional

being found in HIS righteousness <---Positional

SpongeBob<---wrong again.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Who was it that despised righteous works from the beginning??? Oh yes; it was Cain, he despised his brothers works because they were righteous, and his own were evil....The workers of iniquity despise the doers of righteousness all through the bible..

Your out of your mind of you think I am jealous of your working for false gospel....ABEL BY FAITH (1st on the list) offered a more excellent sacrifice (works were the result of the faith he already had)

 

[preacher4truth]

The word impute here is translated as credited.
These are the verses talking about faith or the relationship with God is taken as our
source of righteousness, not our behaviour. Our behaviour still needs to be righteous
but behaviour without faith is dead.

So are you behaving your way to heaven?

 

[willybob]

end of story.

Once again: Paul is not speaking of the moral imperative of the Commandments of Christ, but rather him that worketh religious works of the flesh, church activities, etc. etc. etc...Bible 101 again

 

[Grace777x70]

You got that right bro....to deny the imputed righteousness of Christ is to deny Christ and his work = lost!

I agree...it is anti-Christ at it's core. It's no wonder mindsets like this fight against the grace of God in Christ. it disqualifies their working for righteousness. They are in effect denying their Lord and Master. They are exchanging Christ for their own D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness.

Make no mistake about it - there is an all out war on the grace of God in Christ's finished work on the cross.

Satan and his horde do not come to the believer in Christ and say "Sin all you want" because no one would for fall for such a lie.

Instead they come as "ministers of righteousness". Doing their own righteousness by "their" works.

They want us to live by our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness so that we will be not be depending on what Christ has done for us by grace through faith alone for salvation.

This cuts us off from receiving the grace of God in our lives.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (KJV)
[SUP]14[/SUP] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

[SUP]15[/SUP] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ( notice that is "their" works )

This below in 1 Peter 1:13 is what satan is really after...this is why he has false prophets/teachers in our midst.

He wants us to fall away from grace and depend on our own performance and human will-power instead of what Christ has done in His finished work on the cross and resurrection.

1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

 

[dcontroversal]

I agree...it is anti-Christ at it's core. It's no wonder mindsets like this fight against the grace of God in Christ. it disqualifies their working for righteousness. They are in effect denying their Lord and Master. They are exchanging Christ for their own D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness.

Make no mistake about it - there is an all out war on the grace of God in Christ's finished work on the cross.

Satan and his horde do not come to the believer in Christ and say "Sin all you want" because no one would for fall for such a lie.

Instead they come as "ministers of righteousness".

They want us to live by our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness so that we will be not be depending on what Christ has done for us by grace through faith alone for salvation.

This cuts us off from receiving the grace of God in our lives.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (KJV)
[SUP]14[/SUP] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

[SUP]15[/SUP] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ( notice that is "their" works )

This below in 1 Peter 1:13 is what satan is really after...this is why he has false prophets/teachers in our midst.

He wants us to fall away from grace and depend on our own performance and human will-power instead of what Christ has done in His finished work on the cross and resurrection.

1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Oh I know.....it is obvious who leads them....not the Spirit of God....the Spirit of God would not lead a man to call the imputed righteousness of Christ a cheap trick that does not work?

 

[Grace777x70]

Oh I know.....it is obvious who leads them....not the Spirit of God....the Spirit of God would not lead a man to call the imputed righteousness of Christ a cheap trick that does not work?

It is a major deception for sure. It is anti-Christ and anti-the gospel at it's core belief.

We are to be like Paul and not stand for this for one hour.

Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.

The scriptures have been shown that we in fact the righteousness of God in Christ now because of His work - not ours. We can leave it in the hands of the Lord. To interact further with this type of a mindset is a waste of time. No one is going to be duped by this anti-Christ belief system.

The Holy Spirit will use the scriptures to speak to those reading the threads to witness the life of Christ in them.

 

[Utah]

we will all be judged by our deeds done in faith

Wrong. We will be judged according to our faith.