The imputed righteousness of Christ Impugned

[eternally-gratefull]

Who was it that despised righteous works from the beginning??? Oh yes; it was Cain, he despised his brothers works because they were righteous, and his own were evil....The workers of iniquity despise the doers of righteousness all through the bible..

Oh boy you keep digging your grave deeper.

Cain replaced sacrifice of an innocent animal (imputed righteousness based on death of an innocent) with self right4eousness (his own works)

Yopu are Cain my friend.. You reject abels sign of trusting God alone for salvation based on the sacrifice of the lamb.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Wrong. We will be judged according to our faith.

His works he declaims were done in faith. WIll not remove one sin, He will still be left wanting, Because his sin issue is still unredeemed, Because he rejects the cross. And replaces with works.

 

[Grace777x70]

Wrong, Abraham eras reckoned righteous BEFORE he did one work. You need to go back to the OT myt friend, He was reckoned righteous before all those famous works he did. He also sinned after he was reckoned righteous.. Some even grave sin. So it was not his OWN righteousness which reckoned him righteous.

Amen...Abraham was declared righteous 15 years before he did the Isaac thing. Abraham was declared righteous because he believed what God said.

Even as he went up to sacrifice Isaac - he told his men 'The boy and I will come back after we go up to worship". Abraham believed God in what He had said about Isaac and thought that God could even raise Isaac from the dead to fulfill His word.

Hebrews 11:17-19 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

[SUP]18 [/SUP] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

[SUP]19 [/SUP] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

True biblical faith does not look at things in the natural but on what God said about a matter. God works through the "matter" of His Son in the New Covenant and it is all based on Christ's righteousness alone.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Amen...Abraham was declared righteous 15 years before he did the Isaac thing. Abraham was declared righteous because he believed what God said.

Even as he went up to sacrifice Isaac - he told his men 'The boy and I will come back after we go up to worship". Abraham believed God in what He had said about Isaac and thought that God could even raise Isaac from the dead to fulfill His word.

Hebrews 11:17-19 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

[SUP]18 [/SUP] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

[SUP]19 [/SUP] Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

True biblical faith does not look at things in the natural but on what God said about a matter. God works through the "matter" of His Son in the New Covenant and it is all based on Christ's righteousness alone.

Amen, Faith is in things not seen, Based on a hope.

Abraham's faith was based on his assurance God would keep his promise. Out of this assurance, which he could not yet see. He did his work.

Their faith is in their works. They have to see the result of their faith. Thus it is not faith at all. Thats why they have to proclaim their works so hard. To condemn us so hard. And to attack us and slander us as they do. Their so called faith has no power.

 

[garee]

Faith is a work of God that he performs in us to both will and do His good pleasure.. For faith without works has no food to offer. God provides the will to do the work he requires of us. You could say like a carrot in front of a mule. ...always before, never behind. The food that always leads never trails, it never fails.

It provides the food of His will so that we can continue to move forward not having reached our goal. It provides a living hope that will not disappoint us. For who hopes for something they already have other than those who think they will be found with a righteousness of themselves?

Without the “faith of Christ” which comes from hearing God it would be impossible to please Him who has no form. For if a person claims the faith of God is drawing them they must believe that he drawing them and is a rewarder as one that pays the wage of them that can seek Him.

This is because no man of his own volition could seek in order to understand. God provides the understanding .He defines what is good and what is not.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Rom 3:10

By a work of our faithful Creator He believed light would come and declared it as a workexercised His faith)....let there be light and there was. He pronounced it was good by that which he brings into light.

 

[mailmandan]

Imputed righteousness is rejected by the Roman Catholic church for "imparted righteousness." Works salvationists have a hard time accepting the truth that Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. God imputes righteousness apart from works (Romans 4:6).

 

[Grace777x70]

Imputed righteousness is rejected by the Roman Catholic church for "imparted righteousness." Works salvationists have a hard time accepting the truth that Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. God imputes righteousness apart from works (Romans 4:6).

Amen...imputes or credit or sometimes translated as "reckon" as used in Romans 4:6 is the Greek word used for accounting purposes. The ledger says ( credited as being so ) you have $100 in the bank - you have literally $100 in the bank. It is a real substance that one has.

Now "reckon" or consider it as being true.

Righteousness in Christ because He is in us and we are in Him is all based on Christ alone and we receive this gift of righteousness by grace through faith alone.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Faith is a work of God that he performs in us to both will and do His good pleasure.. For faith without works has no food to offer. God provides the will to do the work he requires of us. You could say like a carrot in front of a mule. ...always before, never behind. The food that always leads never trails, it never fails.

It provides the food of His will so that we can continue to move forward not having reached our goal. It provides a living hope that will not disappoint us. For who hopes for something they already have other than those who think they will be found with a righteousness of themselves?

Without the “faith of Christ” which comes from hearing God it would be impossible to please Him who has no form. For if a person claims the faith of God is drawing them they must believe that he drawing them and is a rewarder as one that pays the wage of them that can seek Him.

This is because no man of his own volition could seek in order to understand. God provides the understanding .He defines what is good and what is not.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Rom 3:10

By a work of our faithful Creator He believed light would come and declared it as a workexercised His faith)....let there be light and there was. He pronounced it was good by that which he brings into light.

Which is exactly why Gods work are not works in the sense we think of it.. They are not hard unless we try to do it of our own strength, And not of faith..

Which is also why Gods work will always be done.. He will finish it..

Which is also why faith will NEVER FAIL. Because GOD NEVER FAILS..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Imputed righteousness is rejected by the Roman Catholic church for "imparted righteousness." Works salvationists have a hard time accepting the truth that Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. God imputes righteousness apart from works (Romans 4:6).

Which makes them really no different than any world religion. It is based on our fruit (how good we are) and not on the unconditional love of God through the cross..

The only difference is they claim Christ (in name only)

 

[Adstar]

You know, I have heard it all on CC or so I thought...Recently a member of CC who claims to know the Lord made the following statement . I will not quote the member's name as you can do a search and find it for yourselves....but I will say...there is only one entity that would lead a man to say such a thing and in my view that entity is NOT the Holy Spirt of God. What do you think about the righteousness of Christ being applied to a believer thru faith and application of the blood of JESUS?

The imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that does not work. <--can you imagine a believer saying this

1st Corinthians 1:30

It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God: our righteousness, holiness, and redemption.

2nd Corinthians 5:21

For he who had not known sin made himself to become sin in your place, that we would become the righteousness of God in him.

I agree we are saved by imputed rightousness.. Not our own rightiousness.. it is not a ""trick"" but the Love of the truth..

The entire chapter of Romans 4 would be good to read but i will just post the end portion.. it is enough.. Paul is talking about Abraham and how He believed God when He said he would have a son even when he and his wife where very old..

Romans 4: KJV
20 "He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; {21} And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. {22} And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. {23} Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; {24} But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; {25} Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification."

 

[notuptome]

2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

God requires perfect righteousness. Only His Son Jesus ever attained perfect righteousness. All the patriarchs attained a good report even David whom God said had a heart after His heart never attained perfect righteousness.

Salvation is more than just a change it is a complete transformation. We who are dead are made alive. We are not just made better we are made completely new by the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit.

Here is Jesus teaching that is of interest in this discussion.

Luke 18:9 ¶ And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

If righteousness is not imputed, reckoned or accounted to us by God then it must be earned or merited by our works. This is of course impossible because we are saved by grace and not by works. Having them begun in grace shall we be completed in works? God forbid.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Adstar]

If righteousness is not imputed, reckoned or accounted to us by God then it must be earned or merited by our works. This is of course impossible because we are saved by grace and not by works. Having them begun in grace shall we be completed in works? God forbid.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

(Galatians 3:1-7) "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? {2} This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? {3} Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? {4} Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. {5} He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? {6} Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. {7} Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham."

 

[dcontroversal]

Wow I thought faith was the substance of things hoped for but unseen. I can see your works. Yep they have a sum total of, filthy rags. Do you want change back?

AMEN...exactly what I thought of...the evidence of things not seen.....faith is a spiritual gift and we all have a different measure of faith....some are super faithful with the branches breaking due to fruit and some have 1 (One) piece of fruit on a scraggly stunted tree.....JESUS was given faith WITHOUT MEASURE<----AMEN because it is all based upon him and his work!

 

[dcontroversal]

Which makes them really no different than any world religion. It is based on our fruit (how good we are) and not on the unconditional love of God through the cross..

The only difference is they claim Christ (in name only)

MANY will say in that day, LORD LORD.......they trust in their works and religionism over Jesus and his imputed righteousness applied dia the blood and faith......!

 

[dcontroversal]

It doesn't negate the salvation method either

Amen....one and only one way.....by faith dia grace and the applied blood of Christ<----equals saved, justified, sanctified in Christ positionally and sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise<----SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION...........and not one second before!

 

[PeterJens]

Weird.

Sacrifice of a life for a life is not imputed righteousness but paying the debt for
sin. It is dealing with sins consequences in the believer. It literally makes the
believer clean, pure, undefiled. Imputed righteousness is fake covering, where
the cleansing fails, and anothers righteousness must be taken instead.

But it totally denies the point about being purified and made clean and Holy.
Now the whole point about cleansing is the sacrificial love of Christ, to give us
this place, and with the love in our hearts we can walk with Christ in communion.

But this is alien to these beleivers who preach against it, who are so unholy and
unclean they can only stand to walk before God with imputed righteousness because
they do not believe God is capable of making them clean.

 

[Grace777x70]

The sky is blue...

 

[PeterJens]

Yes the sky is blue, yet you call in brilliant blue with spots on...

 

[dcontroversal]

The sky is blue...

HAHAH I know....I read what he writes and think....I have never seen one that contradicts himself as much as he does in the very things he writes....he will find out too late that without the imputed righteousness of Christ one will burn......!