Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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Amen...the bible is clear....belief into the finished work of Crist on the cross on our behalf = salvation, justified, sanctified positionally and sealed unto the day of redemption.....end of story....any work, fruit, etc. that follows are the result of the faith and salvation one already possesses in Christ...<---the simplicity that is found in Christ.....period!
Yes, I'm for real and faith is a gift. Romans 12:3; Philippians 1:29; 2 Peter 1:1; Acts 3:16.
That you don't know this most basic truth, and the fact that you deny clear things seen in Scripture is remarkable.
He already has.
That you don't know this most basic truth, and the fact that you deny clear things seen in Scripture is remarkable.
He already has.
Hilarious.......more cake taking!
No, actually you can't, as my problem is with your truncated gospel, anger, name-calling, false accusations, jumping to false conclusions, false teachings and much much more.
Oh, I have a clue alright. Your gospel is truncated, it is like 1/1000th of the whole truth and cannot bear to be challenged with Scripture and truth.
Bragging? Where did I brag? More lies? Yes, more lies from you. Is that some more of your fruit?
Yes, there is fruit in it, it is witnessed in exposing your truncated version of the true Gospel. PeterJens nailed you, and you can't see it. Perhaps instead of arguing online all day long, day in and day out, you should actually seek out someone solid in Gospel truth to help you understand biblical truth as you are amiss in many areas.
Oh, I have a clue alright. Your gospel is truncated, it is like 1/1000th of the whole truth and cannot bear to be challenged with Scripture and truth.
Bragging? Where did I brag? More lies? Yes, more lies from you. Is that some more of your fruit?
Yes, there is fruit in it, it is witnessed in exposing your truncated version of the true Gospel. PeterJens nailed you, and you can't see it. Perhaps instead of arguing online all day long, day in and day out, you should actually seek out someone solid in Gospel truth to help you understand biblical truth as you are amiss in many areas.
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Look, more name calling, and no addressing of Scripture.
You really just don't like the Bible much, eh? Refute the Scripture instead of going ad hominem.
It's hilarious that people like you who preach a truncated gospel equate correction with being judgmental, while, you know, you name call. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
You really just don't like the Bible much, eh? Refute the Scripture instead of going ad hominem.
It's hilarious that people like you who preach a truncated gospel equate correction with being judgmental, while, you know, you name call. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I'm for real and faith is a gift. Romans 12:3; Philippians 1:29; 2 Peter 1:1; Acts 3:16.
That you don't know this most basic truth, and the fact that you deny clear things seen in Scripture is remarkable.
He already has.
That you don't know this most basic truth, and the fact that you deny clear things seen in Scripture is remarkable.
He already has.
that's why you need to have faith and stop worry about everyone else and worry about your own self before you start criticising everyone else!!
No, actually you can't, as my problem is with your truncated gospel, anger, name-calling, false accusations, jumping to false conclusions, false teachings and much much more.
Oh, I have a clue alright. Your gospel is truncated, it is like 1/1000th of the whole truth and cannot bear to be challenged with Scripture and truth.
Bragging? Where did I brag? More lies? Yes, more lies from you. Is that some more of your fruit?
Yes, there is fruit in it, it is witnessed in exposing your truncated version of the true Gospel. PeterJens nailed you, and you can't see it. Perhaps instead of arguing online all day long, day in and day out, you should actually seek out someone solid in Gospel truth to help you understand biblical truth as you are amiss in many areas.
Oh, I have a clue alright. Your gospel is truncated, it is like 1/1000th of the whole truth and cannot bear to be challenged with Scripture and truth.
Bragging? Where did I brag? More lies? Yes, more lies from you. Is that some more of your fruit?
Yes, there is fruit in it, it is witnessed in exposing your truncated version of the true Gospel. PeterJens nailed you, and you can't see it. Perhaps instead of arguing online all day long, day in and day out, you should actually seek out someone solid in Gospel truth to help you understand biblical truth as you are amiss in many areas.
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Look, more name calling, and no addressing of Scripture.
You really just don't like the Bible much, eh? Refute the Scripture instead of going ad hominem.
It's hilarious that people like you who preach a truncated gospel equate correction with being judgmental, while, you know, you name call. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
You really just don't like the Bible much, eh? Refute the Scripture instead of going ad hominem.
It's hilarious that people like you who preach a truncated gospel equate correction with being judgmental, while, you know, you name call. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Changed your name to one that fits....HAHA
Wow, any more slander or judgment to add?
It is apparent dcontroversal, that you will not address the Scriptures given you but instead resort to personal attacks, slander, lies, name calling, ridicule. It's really shameful and the truth of the matter is you will not grow in your understanding because you will not endure sound doctrine and cannot and will not allow Scripture to correct you.
Anyhow, get your last slam in, I won't address you any longer, Romans 16:17.
Anyhow, get your last slam in, I won't address you any longer, Romans 16:17.
Good.......when You can respond decently without falsehoods, judgmental accusations and literal truth then cool...if not....no skin off my back...
here for your enjoyment
Be not removed from the simplicity that is found in JESUS<---->If you believe that God has raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved--->it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE-->HE that believes on the SON is having everlasting life.....
This is the gospel...no additions, embellishments and or works.....FAITH<---end of the story!
here for your enjoyment
Be not removed from the simplicity that is found in JESUS<---->If you believe that God has raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved--->it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE-->HE that believes on the SON is having everlasting life.....
This is the gospel...no additions, embellishments and or works.....FAITH<---end of the story!
Hypocrisy and deceit 101. Note the mocking and ridicule towards the Biblical doctrine of faith being a gift that I mentioned along with Scripture proofs:
Now note the deceit and lies of the follow up:
That is really shameful behavior on the part of a professing believer, deceitful, disingenuous, and an outright lie. No wonder our churches are in such disarray.
Now note the deceit and lies of the follow up:
That is really shameful behavior on the part of a professing believer, deceitful, disingenuous, and an outright lie. No wonder our churches are in such disarray.
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A good place to start would be this..........
The Bible makes the clear distinction that not all believers will be students(disciples) of His word. Lewis Sperry Chafer just taught the truth on this subject.
Believer=disciple is the relatively new, forced addition to His Word.
The Greek proves Chafer right and your theory wrong.
Believed in vs 30 is in the Aorist tense~~a moment in time that is perpetuated forever.
And to seal the deal
Believed in vs 31 is the perfect/active/participle of Pisteuo~~A action that will continue to exist forever.
Vs 30 is their salvation and are IN HIM. Positional truth
Vs 31 is Jesus Christ going on to their experiential sanctification from his WORD. Don't miss the distinction.
Vs 30 believed IN HIM. Saved. We are IN HIM.
VS 31 Abide in His Word. Disciple. Only learning the mind of Christ can we be a true disciple(Student) of His.
At salvation we are IN HIM. We abide IN HIM as believers.
To become a disciple and live the Christian way of life We abide in HIS WORD. And it takes a lot of study and growing in His grace and knowledge.
The Bible makes the clear distinction that not all believers will be students(disciples) of His word. Lewis Sperry Chafer just taught the truth on this subject.
Believer=disciple is the relatively new, forced addition to His Word.
The Greek proves Chafer right and your theory wrong.
Believed in vs 30 is in the Aorist tense~~a moment in time that is perpetuated forever.
And to seal the deal
Believed in vs 31 is the perfect/active/participle of Pisteuo~~A action that will continue to exist forever.
Vs 30 is their salvation and are IN HIM. Positional truth
Vs 31 is Jesus Christ going on to their experiential sanctification from his WORD. Don't miss the distinction.
Vs 30 believed IN HIM. Saved. We are IN HIM.
VS 31 Abide in His Word. Disciple. Only learning the mind of Christ can we be a true disciple(Student) of His.
At salvation we are IN HIM. We abide IN HIM as believers.
To become a disciple and live the Christian way of life We abide in HIS WORD. And it takes a lot of study and growing in His grace and knowledge.
Interesting moniker as you offer exactly no Scripture proving your allegation. There is no distinction as we are commissioned to make disciples of all nations, not "believers".
Not quite, he introduced a new heresy that you cannot find in church history. This has culminated into the heresy of FGT, or better known as antinomianism.
Actually it's an accurate representation of the Gospel and the Word. You know nothing of Church history as that had always been the case until Chafer came along.
Not at all, but let's look at your failed argument below:
So, you're preaching them into heaven, correct?
The context of the passage shows them as lost, slaves to sin.
The aorist tense means it began and ended at a certain point. In time. Not eternity. And it did. It is not "perpetuated forever" It ended as soon as they made their claim. Your given definition is false and nowhere does this tense mean perpetuated forever in the sense that they were sealed. You simply don't know what you're talking about and at the same time completely ignore the context of the passage and base everything on an erroneous tense definition. The passage is plain enough, ,they were still lost, they did not follow Christ, proving they were not His sheep, as Christ also asserted. Note also John 10:27.
Still trying to seal it?
Utter nonsense. Christ stated they were slaves to sin, children of Satan who wanted to kill Him, all things contrary to true conversion.
I see Chafer has hoodwinked you as you completely miss what Christ is saying, reading into the text what is not there.
So, let me ask you so we can get this out there: If a person believes in your false aorist tense and lives in sexual immorality, drunkenness, and others sins, and practices sin, are they truly converted? I know the answer already and you're a false teacher.
Not quite, he introduced a new heresy that you cannot find in church history. This has culminated into the heresy of FGT, or better known as antinomianism.
Actually it's an accurate representation of the Gospel and the Word. You know nothing of Church history as that had always been the case until Chafer came along.
Not at all, but let's look at your failed argument below:
So, you're preaching them into heaven, correct?
The context of the passage shows them as lost, slaves to sin.
The aorist tense means it began and ended at a certain point. In time. Not eternity. And it did. It is not "perpetuated forever" It ended as soon as they made their claim. Your given definition is false and nowhere does this tense mean perpetuated forever in the sense that they were sealed. You simply don't know what you're talking about and at the same time completely ignore the context of the passage and base everything on an erroneous tense definition. The passage is plain enough, ,they were still lost, they did not follow Christ, proving they were not His sheep, as Christ also asserted. Note also John 10:27.
Still trying to seal it?
Utter nonsense. Christ stated they were slaves to sin, children of Satan who wanted to kill Him, all things contrary to true conversion.
I see Chafer has hoodwinked you as you completely miss what Christ is saying, reading into the text what is not there.
So, let me ask you so we can get this out there: If a person believes in your false aorist tense and lives in sexual immorality, drunkenness, and others sins, and practices sin, are they truly converted? I know the answer already and you're a false teacher.