Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

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Roughsoul1991

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dcontroversal said:
Probably so (concerning the cake)....as far as the rest....no...I don't just take one scripture out of context to base my beliefs on...28 years of study, 4 years of seminary and line upon line........just because I don't post 2, 4, 30 scriptures to support a particular view does not mean that I do not have said support of the scriptures.......EVERY WORD is inspired and profitable.....from 1 verse to all!
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Years does not matter since someone can believe wrong from year one and hold that belief to year 28.

Scholars disagree on all these subjects. Preachers disagree. So seminary school defends nothing.

And you can post 30 something scripture to fit your theology taking them out of context while i can post 30 that defend my view also.

You have no point...
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Years does not matter since someone can believe wrong from year one and hold that belief to year 28.

Scholars disagree on all these subjects. Preachers disagree. So seminary school defends nothing.

And you can post 30 something scripture to fit your theology taking them out of context while i can post 30 that defend my view also.

You have no point...
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No less of a point than you pal!
 
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dcontroversal said:
But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Off the cuff....

The context is the verbiage that Rabshakeh is supposed to speak unto the people from the king of Assyria

Vs. 11 Eliakim, Shebna, and Joah seem to desire the Assyrian emissary to speak in the Syrian language so the Jews defending the city will not understand it....note the message in verse 14-18 and his attempt to get them to be dissuaded from believing Hezekiah and his promise of delivery from GOD.

vs. 12. The Assyrian emissary makes it clear that he is sent to speak to the men on the wall, to dissuade them and his comment about drinking their own piss and eating their own dung seems to be applicable to the siege....the men on the wall and everyone not of the Kings house would be cooking their food over their own dung (prophesied unto Judah in Ezekiel note following verse and the same would be applicable to them drinking their own urine which has been known to happen in sieges as well when the water ran low.....

And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

The whole concept is rather simple...the men on the wall were destined to eat their own dung and drink their own piss with Hezekiah and the three Jewish emissaries if the siege was to continue....the Assyrian was sent unto them to try and persuade them to surrender to the Assyrian King or they would eat their own dung and drink their own piss with the King of Judah and his court!
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Gasp!...you said that term in brown above....( ya'll will never get into heaven with a potty mouth like that...:) )
 
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dcontroversal said:
Yes....yes indeed I did......and your view of my assessment of the verse you asked about?
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I just wanted to "make" you say that term to "prove" your bad behavior and thus you are not really saved....:rolleyes:

I actually didn't read the whole post...lol..I will now though...:cool: ( I did notice some "crap" in it off the top of my head.....or is the proper term "dung"? )

Looked at it...looks good to me. Prophesied and fulfilled. God's word is always true.
 
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Grace777x70 said:

I just wanted to "make" you say that term to "prove" your bad behavior and thus you are not really saved....:rolleyes:

I actually didn't read the whole post...lol..I will now though...:cool: ( I did notice some "crap" in it off the top of my head.....or is the proper term "dung"? )

Looked at it...looks good to me. Prophesied and fulfilled. God's word is always true.
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AHAHAHAH yes indeed.........you tricked me HAHAHAHA your a sinner too...
 
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dcontroversal said:
AHAHAHAH yes indeed.........you tricked me HAHAHAHA your a sinner too...
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Oh no...what must I do to transform myself from a sinner to a saint? What are all of those good righteous looking works that I should I now? How long does it take to become one of those saints? How much good righteous looking works must I do?
 
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Oh no...what must I do to transform myself from a sinner to a saint? What are all of those good righteous looking works that I should I now? How long does it take to become one of those saints? How much good righteous looking works must I do?
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Like the old joke about how many -------- can fit in a VW....ONE MORE......and it still will not help.....there is no salvation in works and or a faith/works blend......double cursed false gospel....with no power to save....
 
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dcontroversal said:
Like the old joke about how many -------- can fit in a VW....ONE MORE......and it still will not help.....there is no salvation in works and or a faith/works blend......double cursed false gospel....with no power to save....
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You are just saying that because you don't want to do any good works. You must be one of those lazy easy-believism Christians. You just love sinning and think you have a free ticket now to go to heaven and so live however you want.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Probably so (concerning the cake)....as far as the rest....no...I don't just take one scripture out of context to base my beliefs on...28 years of study, 4 years of seminary and line upon line........just because I don't post 2, 4, 30 scriptures to support a particular view does not mean that I do not have said support of the scriptures.......EVERY WORD is inspired and profitable.....from 1 verse to all!
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I would not be throwing out 4 years of semitary, er seminary as a badge of honor....It is a well known fact that young Spirit Filled and on fire men of God enter into seminary and then exit semitary with belief stolen, fire put out for good and Pretexted pet doctrines picked up from semitary demons, er professors...

Care to share with us which Semitary you died at?

As for your tout line upon line, you fail that test to, else you would not exclude 2 Tim 2.1-11, which goes line upon line with Jesus instructions in Matt 10 saying that those who confess him, he will confess and those who deny him, he will deny before Father...correct line upon line proves you to be in deep deceptive error......He must remain faithful to himself, because he cannot deny what he promised....and his promises and his word he has exalted above his name...this is line upon line with Psalms 138.2.....a 3rd Grade Sunday school student knows this....

PS: The first one to boast about formal Bible education is usually defending their pride and not their faith....
 
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Grace777x70 said:

You are just saying that because you don't want to do any good works. You must be one of those lazy easy-believism Christians. You just love sinning and think you have a free ticket now to go to heaven and so live however you want.
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HAHAH amen.....I can do it ALL with no remorse, conviction and live like the wind...wooooohooooooo
 
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truthhurts said:
I would not be throwing out 4 years of semitary, er seminary as a badge of honor....It is a well known fact that young Spirit Filled and on fire men of God enter into seminary and then exit semitary with belief stolen, fire put out for good and Pretexted pet doctrines picked up from semitary demons, er professors...

Care to share with us which Semitary you died at?

As for your tout line upon line, you fail that test to, else you would not exclude 2 Tim 2.1-11, which goes line upon line with Jesus instructions in Matt 10 saying that those who confess him, he will confess and those who deny him, he will deny before Father...correct line upon line proves you to be in deep deceptive error......He must remain faithful to himself, because he cannot deny what he promised....and his promises and his word he has exalted above his name...this is line upon line with Psalms 138.2.....a 3rd Grade Sunday school student knows this....

PS: The first one to boast about formal Bible education is usually defending their pride and not their faith....
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Non-responsive and I could care less what you think.....the rest of your comments........points one and two....in bolded.....and I was not referencing Psalms....as any third grade Sunday school teacher would know!
 
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Hello everyone, I am a believer, and I do not sin. EVER. Never ever..

LOL
 
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dcontroversal said:
Probably so (concerning the cake)....as far as the rest....no...I don't just take one scripture out of context to base my beliefs on...28 years of study, 4 years of seminary and line upon line........just because I don't post 2, 4, 30 scriptures to support a particular view does not mean that I do not have said support of the scriptures.......EVERY WORD is inspired and profitable.....from 1 verse to all!
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4 years of seminary and you still spew error and have a foul mouth? Get your money back, you've learned nothing and are still in abject error!

As for the self-proclaimed 28 years of "study"?

Uh. No.

Arguing online hours every day have proven you know little of Scripture and doctrine, that much is apparent. You are almost always wrong about what you assert and are generally out of context when using Scripture. You know little of the Bible and only argue from tradition, not exegesis.

When one points to their own credentials, as you have, they've lost the battle and are trying to prove themselves at the same time.

Frankly your ignorance of truth is huge, you take most Scriptures completely out of context, and then you argue the same issues for hours. Every. Single. Day. For months. Talk about insanity. Please grow up and actually go spend some time studying for once instead of arguing online on a forum hour after hour day after day.
 
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