TRUMP THE CHINESE AND NORTH KOREA

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brighthouse98 said:
China is fearful only for themselves,they could care less about others! They know if we go after North Korea there own economy will crumble. That is the harsh truth of there concern! The control China once had has changed under this new President! They have every reason to be fearful so does North Korea!This President believes in resolve rather then in drawing a line! Its about time we had a President with some guts! Don't tell me what you are going to do,show me results in doing something! This is the mindset now of our Country!! ABOUT TIME!
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There is nothing wrong with having a strong government as long as it has a leader with wisdom and stability. Question is
has the US elected a leader with those qualities? Back in the 1930s the German people were tired of the weak Weimar republic, led by the aging President Hindenburg They wanted a leader with ''Guts'' that showed them results. The rest is History.
 
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wow ..have not been here in months ..nice to see the old Trump -haters are being somewhat reasonable now toward him...
 
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Mitspa said:
wow ..have not been here in months ..nice to see the old Trump -haters are being somewhat reasonable now toward him...
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Great to see you brother!
 
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tanakh said:
There is nothing wrong with having a strong government as long as it has a leader with wisdom and stability. Question is
has the US elected a leader with those qualities? Back in the 1930s the German people were tired of the weak Weimar republic, led by the aging President Hindenburg They wanted a leader with ''Guts'' that showed them results. The rest is History.
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Was that tired old president allowing an army of backwards heathens amass inside his border?
 
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Brother Tanaka,speaking as a Vietnam Veteran,who served two tours in Vietnam, I understand the large difference between having a man of courage in office and one who is a coward. Unlike the German people,we know what is going on in our own Country. This is a far different time then that in 1942.

History is not always doomed to repeat itself as you suggest. It is why we have this President now in the White House,most states did not want our country any longer to be used as a doormat by other Countries,they now realize that this President has the courage to make the tough calls rather then tell us bed time stories like John Carry did,and like our former President did!

It is time to lead, not have hooks in our noses to be lead. No one dislikes war more then me,but in war there should always be purpose! There is no innocence in war period! The purpose of war is to win,not set rules in war! That is why we won in World war 2 and that is how we will win today! We have a President with that kind of mindset,and I cannot speak for all here,but as for me I hate to lose at anything! I did not fight to lose,I fought to perserve our way of life for all to benefit by in peace, and joy in believing our Lord! ( Isaiah 41:13!!!!) And so will we in him!
 
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To the Obama fans ..anyone that don't melt before our enemies must be hitler
 
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tanakh said:
There is nothing wrong with having a strong government as long as it has a leader with wisdom and stability. Question is
has the US elected a leader with those qualities? Back in the 1930s the German people were tired of the weak Weimar republic, led by the aging President Hindenburg They wanted a leader with ''Guts'' that showed them results. The rest is History.
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Right now, I think that there is a real possibility of this happening.

Only things will move faster now and the results will be far more deadly.

One wrong move and a million, no millions, of Koreans will die, North and South, will Trump strike N Korea and start a war?

Will He try to fight an enemy with China backing the North?

A war that devastates N & S Korea, but that he will NEVER win because China will not allow N Korea to fall completely?

If the Trump wars start in Korea, and N Korea uses it's nukes, then Trump uses his nukes, then China uses their nukes, then Trump fires nukes at China, I would say etc., except there probably won't be one.

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And while he is fighting the Trump war in Korea,

Will Iran, Syria, and Russia attack Israel? (yes)

So that he will fight the Trump war of Syria, Iran and Israel? (yes)

Then Israel will fall, maybe not right away, it could be a war that lasts for........

Israel, half the size of Switzerland, half the size of Belgium.
 
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It appears it is the time they are making their move to be more strict in the world,scare the world in to thinking wars could break out threatening peace on earth,controlled conflict brings about controlled change,and they will use chaos to get the world to come together,and they probably are cooperating with each other,at least America and Russia.

Jesus said when you hear of wars and rumors of wars.

Nobody is going to go against Israel,for God would not allow it,for He has a plan for her,which even when the 7 years period begins,Israel is protected for three and one half years,and when the beast claims to be God,she is protected during the three and one half years that he rules.

The truth is the whole world could assemble right now,every able bodied person that can fight,from 5 years old to eighty years old,take all the weapons,and tanks,and bombs of all they have,all the arsenal they can muster up,and bring every big cat,gorillas,and every strong beast,and go against Israel,and they would fail,for God has a plan for her that cannot be thwarted.
 
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tanakh said:
The latest News here is that in talks with the Chinese Trump is going to tell them to reign in North Korea otherwise he will do it himself. Trump has not specified exactly what he has in mind but it sounds ominous. Its Ironic that the US needs the Chinese good will to prevent a possible war. Your thoughts please.....
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it seems to me i remember from clinton on the talk of the dangers of north korea. im sure it was beforethat probably since the korean war given technically they never came to a treaty. North Korea hasnt been unclear about its intentions, and has threatened when anyone says they are a threat.

The issue is according to the experts, that they now are so close to the i.c.b.m. they covet in order to directly hold a gun to american heads. I learned recently that one of the top exports of north korea is giant statues, monuments to leaders in africa and europe. and How many gigantic up to 70 ft tall statues they have of Kim il sung the founder of north korea. along now with statues of kim jung il and kim jung un. idolatry comes to mind after learning they look at thier founder as divine.

I am not sure what to make of trump , i know that congress is going to fight him at every point no matter what He is trying to do. I personally believe that the One and only way to deal with the problem of north korea is to go in with overwhelming force and drag Him off His tower and put him before an international court like saddam. these dictators say anything, thier people have no choice but to not question thier "supreme leaders" will. it to me is a repeat of every dictator such as hitler, stalin, musillini ect...

we have threatened north korea far too long, its worked against us because now our words dont carry wieght with them, they look at america as a paper tiger speaking political words. as do china, russia, iran and syria now, soon also to include pakistan. I hope to the Lord we never abandon Israel. though I seem to have a feeling were Headed in that direction slowly given the public opinion outside the church.
 
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MattforJesus said:
It appears it is the time they are making their move to be more strict in the world,scare the world in to thinking wars could break out threatening peace on earth,controlled conflict brings about controlled change,and they will use chaos to get the world to come together,and they probably are cooperating with each other,at least America and Russia.

Jesus said when you hear of wars and rumors of wars.

Nobody is going to go against Israel,for God would not allow it,for He has a plan for her,which even when the 7 years period begins,Israel is protected for three and one half years,and when the beast claims to be God,she is protected during the three and one half years that he rules.

The truth is the whole world could assemble right now,every able bodied person that can fight,from 5 years old to eighty years old,take all the weapons,and tanks,and bombs of all they have,all the arsenal they can muster up,and bring every big cat,gorillas,and every strong beast,and go against Israel,and they would fail,for God has a plan for her that cannot be thwarted.
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Part of that plan is for damascus to be destroyed and never inhaboited again, after that the war of gog and maggog brings russia and iran, egypt and lebenon against isreal. Just beforethe end the antichrist will rule a short time during these days and many jews will be slaughtered along with many christians......

Fox news did a report in January stating that 90,000 christians were martyred world wide in the year 2016. every nation surrounding isreal is set to destroying her from the earth now. " death to americe, death to isreal is the cry of all the islamic countries ruled by iatolahs or muslim clerics. terrorism really is commanded in the torah sura reads " strike terror in the hearts of all allahs enemies" and promises Life in paradise for any who die fighting His fight. islams main goal is world domination through terror. its scriptures are so opposed tothe spirit in the Gospel, im convinced islam has a part in the end times.

The temple mount as we speak is under islamic control, its actually un lawful on the mount to read a bible." the dome of the rock" sits on the same mount where Gods temple used to be, and across the top it says on all sides " God has no Son" <<<thats anti christ at its core
 
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Chokmahiel said:
Who said Trump is going to bomb north Korea? I thought you said Trump hasn't specified what he will do. It sounds like an empty threat to me.

China has good relations with north Korea, this is true. Perhaps this is why China really never does anything about north Korea, but that doesn't mean north Korea's existence depends on China. No country's existence depends on any other, but God sets up and destroys them at will.
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there have been so many sanctions on north korean trade, that china is thier biggest by far partner and the most important peice of thier economy. they do indeed depend on thier relationship with china. look into the famine in north korea years back when about half a million people starved to death. the harsh part is that sanctions end up punishing the common people rather than a leaders regime who dont care if thier people starve. Kim jung un is a chunky fellow who eats good for sure.
 
tanakh

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MattforJesus said:
It appears it is the time they are making their move to be more strict in the world,scare the world in to thinking wars could break out threatening peace on earth,controlled conflict brings about controlled change,and they will use chaos to get the world to come together,and they probably are cooperating with each other,at least America and Russia.

Jesus said when you hear of wars and rumors of wars.

Nobody is going to go against Israel,for God would not allow it,for He has a plan for her,which even when the 7 years period begins,Israel is protected for three and one half years,and when the beast claims to be God,she is protected during the three and one half years that he rules.

The truth is the whole world could assemble right now,every able bodied person that can fight,from 5 years old to eighty years old,take all the weapons,and tanks,and bombs of all they have,all the arsenal they can muster up,and bring every big cat,gorillas,and every strong beast,and go against Israel,and they would fail,for God has a plan for her that cannot be thwarted.
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God has a plan for the whole world its been carried out since Adam and Eve left the Garden. In Deuteronomy God presented the Israelite's through Moses two options concerning their future. The first was obedience to God and a listing of all the blessings and benefits that would follow. The other was disobedience and all the horrors they would face if they followed their own way. For most of their history they chose their own way. God used Nations like Assyria and Babylon to bring them to repentance. Today he is using the same method until a remnant returns to God by recognizing Christ as Messiah.
 
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