ISLAM and MUSLIMS

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kaylagrl

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The more I hear and see about Islam, the more I am convinced it does not exist and there is no such thing as muslim.
If you saw the girls mutilated by FGM,if you saw the women beaten,if you saw acid thrown in the face perhaps you'd believe it is real. But at this point I think you believe you are a head in a jar sitting on a desk in a science lab and that is all that exists in the universe.
 
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If you saw the girls mutilated by FGM,if you saw the women beaten,if you saw acid thrown in the face perhaps you'd believe it is real. But at this point I think you believe you are a head in a jar sitting on a desk in a science lab and that is all that exists in the universe.
I've seen worse. Doesn't mean that Islam exists, just that there are murderers and wife beaters in a particular part of the world.

There is plenty of bloodshed I or you and anyone over the fable called Islam, but that doesn't Islam real. Here's an interesting non-bloody video though, something a little more intellectual. There appears to me many places I look that there is an interesting debate being waged by all means within the Middle East over the collective of fables commonly called Islam.

Which one is the real muslim in your reckoning in this interview?

[video=youtube;fA5p82snwhs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA5p82snwhs[/video]
 
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pottersclay

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I am not sure what something like that would accomplish, actually.



If I remember correctly it made them unclean and the could not go to heaven or something like that.
As I said I don't know if this really happened but I think I came across this at the time of ww2 study.
 

joaniemarie

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You have filled your world with hate, and ironically you view the world through pretty much the same lens as Islamic radicals, just wearing a different hat.

If you seek out extremist sources of information from only one perspective, then of course you will only see what you want to see. That's the worst thing about freedom of information on the internet. There is no quality control and people are free to choose to see only what reinforces their existing prejudice.



No., you are 100% wrong Hao., We don't "seek" bad news., it's in our faces every day. It's burning our buildings and raping and killing our people. Even here in America we have a liberal bias like these other European countries are suffering with. We have not been told the truth about Islam but NOW we see it with our own eyes.

I have seen it here in NY and it's sickening to watch these terrorists disrespect the rights of Americans while "insisting" on their rights. (rights they don't even have) since they are not Americans... they are illegal immigrants destroying our cities and beating up our legal citizens. OUT THEY GO!

Civilized countries have given Islam the benefit of the doubt and allowed them in and even supported and took care of them and their children with houses and welfare checks. Allowing illegal immigrants in without ANY vetting procedures. Simply helping needy people. But now thanks to everyone having a cell phone LOL and conservatives who love their country., we won't be closing our eyes anymore. We don't trust the liberal media anymore.

We are no longer allowing PC (political correctness) to run without being challenged. Decent people have had enough. We are saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.


You are wrong very wrong Hao. Our country and others have been kind and giving and tried to help people from different cultures and back rounds. But Islam has been found out after a loooong period of biting the hand that feeds it as well as stealing the cities they were once welcomed in. We are no longer ignorant of this evil plaque sweeping our communities and cities and states. The door is shutting now on this horror called Islam., I just hope it isn't shutting too late.

We don't hate anyone and that has already been proven by people's willingness to let Islam in. But we must stand against Islam now for all the reasons that were posted here on this thread and more reasons that have not even been shared here. Your accusations have no grounding in the truth.



We are extremely thankful for other sources of news beside our liberal media and even support other sources of news much to the disdain of those who would seek to keep us in the dark. I agree with and appreciate Magenta for posting these difficult videos for those who have not heard or seen the truth. I've already seen a few of these videos a few months back and know how important the truth is.

I'm thankful that Magenta is posting these videos for the benefit of those who have NO CLUE what is going on.
Sometimes people need to be shocked out of their ignorance so they can reject evil and uphold good. I'm all for that and thankful for those who have the guts to be truthful even when it means being accused falsely like you did Hao. Thanks again Magenta!!


 
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jaybird88

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they are illegal immigrants destroying our cities and beating up our legal citizens. OUT THEY GO!


i am sure they would be happy to go home but the US will not stop bombing their cities full of innocent civilians.

 

joaniemarie

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[/FONT][/SIZE][/I]i am sure they would be happy to go home but the US will not stop bombing their cities full of innocent civilians.


No., the ones we are talking about getting OUT of here are those who are protesting in our streets against our president while wearing masks because they are hiding their faces. They don't want to be identified while they continue engaging in unlawful behavior. Those kinds of people are NOT happy to go home. Our country has not retaliated until recently because of President Trump and Americans who support him and his working at getting rid ISIS.

Obama allowed the evil in and now it's a major mess. If we don't defend our country we won't have a country to defend. Good men fought and died to give us our freedom under God. Now people are waking up to the horror of Islam and we are protecting our own children and our way of life. I'm sorry you have a problem with that.

 
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jaybird88

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No., the ones we are talking about getting OUT of here are those who are protesting in our streets against our president while wearing masks because they are hiding their faces. They don't want to be identified while they continue engaging in unlawful behavior. Those kinds of people are NOT happy to go home. Our country has not retaliated until recently because of President Trump and Americans who support him and his working at getting rid ISIS.

Obama allowed the evil in and now it's a major mess. If we don't defend our country we won't have a country to defend. Good men fought and died to give us our freedom under God. Now people are waking up to the horror of Islam and we are protecting our own children and our way of life. I'm sorry you have a problem with that.

obama, trump, different mask on same monster, both supported by same groups. thats why our military policies never change.
 

joaniemarie

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obama, trump, different mask on same monster, both supported by same groups. thats why our military policies never change.


You have your opinion and I have mine. Coming from a conservative family we couldn't stand Obama and his policies. He is a socialist and a liberal. Our family supports President Trump and are very thankful for the major and drastic differences between President Trump and Obama. You are welcome to your opinion and I'm welcome to mine.

 
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Miri

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Sorry more to add....lol

I think if a person has a heart for evangelism, or at least is open to sharing their
faith even in little bits or a small way. Than the Holy Spirit will bring people across
your path who are open to the gospel. It matters not who they are, their,
religion, country, culture etc.

There is another Muslim chap who I see every so often, another taxi driver. It might be
weeks or months between taxi rides. But he takes great delight in asking me about the
bible and picking up from where we last left off! He actually tends to remember our
conversations better than I do.

Ive given out several bibles to Muslim taxi drivers, none have ever refused. I only do
this when I see someone has a specific interest in knowing more. I point out chapters
for them to look at.

Going back to the first five books of the bible, Muslims do believe these books, maybe
certain stories are a little altered but the foundations are there. What a great opportunity to
share!

Talk to Muslims about Hebrews 11 the "by faith chapter".
Islam is a religion of works, what an eye opener it is to them that characters they recognise
were saved by faith!

Watch the penny drop when you point out "the word in Genesis and then show them
"the word" is Jesus.

I remember when I was a young teen. There was a Muslim local shop behind our house
I use to drop by there every so often. We all did, the family who ran the shop always
seemed to be a bit sad.

Then one night there was a massive commotion, with a fire engine and ambulance,
police all in attendance. It turned out he had poured petrol on himself and set himself
alight!

The reason - it came out that his wife told him she didn't love him and never had,
he felt there was no reason to go on living, that he had failed as a good Muslim.
He got his wish, he died later in hospital.

How tragic, what if someone had shared the gospel with him and his wife. What
if someone had told him there was another way. What if someone had told him
God loved him.


How awful to be under the curse of a religion which teaches you have angels
on your shoulders, one writes down all the bad things and one writes down all the
good things. You hope that when you die the good deeds exceed the bad, but you never
know for certain.

How awful to be in bondage to a religion where you dare not tell anyone that you don't
agree with something, or have a different opinion in case you are killed.

Islam is a prison, people are held in bondage to it, how can people be set free if
they are not shown the road to freedom.


Ephesians 6:11-12 NKJV
[11] Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against
the wiles of the devil. [12] For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this
age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
No, Miri, what is foundational is that Isaac was the son of promise, not Ishmael, and for you to deny this is disturbing, since Jesus Christ came through the line of Isaac and Mohammed came through Ishmael.

I never said the bible was wrong, I said the first five books of the bible
are a great foundation, a starting point for sharing the gospel
with Muslims!

How on earth you can possible twist that around i have absolutely no idea,
other than your thoughts are closed off and clouded to even the remote
possibility that the gospel message is for all.

I get that you have no interest in sharing the good news of salvation
with Muslims, and that yo don't think they deserve to know the truth
but please do not twist what others say and hinder the spreading of the gospel.

Sorry that makes me really angry, very little makes me riled up on
CC, I can overlook a lot of things. But when I see deliberate attempts to
berate a person for spreading the good news of Christ, there can only be one
source of that and I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
 

trofimus

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[/FONT][/SIZE][/I]i am sure they would be happy to go home but the US will not stop bombing their cities full of innocent civilians.

Do not believe this propaganda. They want social benefits and western cars, houses and women.

We accepted some families from Iraq, Christians. We transfered them from Iraq by a plane, right to the Czech republic.
Everything was arranged for them.
Half of them returned back to Iraq, because they were disappointed by the flat they got in the center of the town. Other family run to Germany illegally (Germany is right behind our borders).
And those were Christians! And passed the security check tests!
It was a huge issue here and the ministry of internal security stopped this program for immigrants.

No, 99% of so called refugees are not seeking just shelter, they are seeking something else. They were promised white women, they were lied that the subhumans in then West will work for them and serve them. They payed for this to smugglers and now await it to happen.
Some of them said to the camera "I have payed for this so when will I get this??"
 
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missy2014

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I surely wish I was doing well lol no worries. Just soldiering through hardship by Gods grace :p
<3 to you thankyou I thank the lord he is so good
 
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missy2014

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<3 to you thankyou I thank the lord he is so good
<3= love you if you wanna chat more let me know its been real tough for me too but God is all I have
I have nothing but him hes so cool! hes our King! and Father
 
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This discussion about Islam and Muslims has proven to be an explosive issue. I'm not surprised.
 
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jaybird88

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Do not believe this propaganda. They want social benefits and western cars, houses and women.

We accepted some families from Iraq, Christians. We transfered them from Iraq by a plane, right to the Czech republic.
Everything was arranged for them.
Half of them returned back to Iraq, because they were disappointed by the flat they got in the center of the town. Other family run to Germany illegally (Germany is right behind our borders).
And those were Christians! And passed the security check tests!
It was a huge issue here and the ministry of internal security stopped this program for immigrants.

No, 99% of so called refugees are not seeking just shelter, they are seeking something else. They were promised white women, they were lied that the subhumans in then West will work for them and serve them. They payed for this to smugglers and now await it to happen.
Some of them said to the camera "I have payed for this so when will I get this??"
with due respect that makes no sense at all. if you have a decent job and home and your family is happy why in the world would you up root them and move them a thousand miles a way to place they never been before in a culture thats nothing like their home, all that to get welfare?
we get told the same thing here, all the poor people getting welfare are abusing the system, the public believes it, welfare gets cut and the savings get passed up to the richest one percent. oldest trick in the book. cha ching!
 

trofimus

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with due respect that makes no sense at all. if you have a decent job and home and your family is happy why in the world would you up root them and move them a thousand miles a way to place they never been before in a culture thats nothing like their home, all that to get welfare?
we get told the same thing here, all the poor people getting welfare are abusing the system, the public believes it, welfare gets cut and the savings get passed up to the richest one percent. oldest trick in the book. cha ching!
It does not have to make sense in our European/American minds.

But just look at what is happening. They are in Turkey. Is there a war? No. Why are they going to Italy, then? Is any war in Italy? No. Why are they massively moving to Germany then?

The same with the route through Serbia/Hungary.

Why nobody stayed in Poland? Is there a war in Poland? No, it is not. Why, when the Czech republic asks them if they want to get here, the first question was "how high are social benefits"? And then nobody wanted to.
They all want to get to Germany/Sweden/UK/France. Why? Because there are large muslim communities, anonymity in those communities and high social benefits. They do not plan to just integrate and live a normal European life in some normal country. Not in their majority.
 
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Yeraza_Bats

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I think the problem is due to people who take criticisms of Islam as "racism".

As Christians we should already be against Islam, and there are many Muslim people who do leave Islam after learning how violent it actually is. But so many people today are told that criticizing Islam = racism, so they become angry when they see anyone doing just that.

As Ive said, I stand for criticizing Islam. I even am not against people doing so with Christianity, as it gives us a chance to speak to them about Christ. All beliefs should be questioned.

Oh, but back to being on topic, I was thinking about Islam, ask any Muslim about the Crucifixion of Christ and they will of course tell you it never happened, that allah had made a man on the cross "appear" to be Jesus. I like to use this as a way to get them to question the teachings of Muhammad. Why even do this? By doing this, allah is solely responsible for Christianity. And why did all of this have to happen? Why did he need Muhammad after Christ? Why do we not have Christs teachings, if all He really did was come to say "worship allah"?
 

Magenta

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I never said the bible was wrong, I said the first five books of the bible
are a great foundation, a starting point for sharing the gospel
with Muslims!

How on earth you can possible twist that around i have absolutely no idea,
other than your thoughts are closed off and clouded to even the remote
possibility that the gospel message is for all.

I get that you have no interest in sharing the good news of salvation
with Muslims, and that yo don't think they deserve to know the truth
but please do not twist what others say and hinder the spreading of the gospel.

Sorry that makes me really angry, very little makes me riled up on
CC, I can overlook a lot of things. But when I see deliberate attempts to
berate a person for spreading the good news of Christ, there can only be one
source of that and I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ for pretending that the Muslims accept the foundations of truth of Christ presented in the first five books of the Bible. You think because I correct your saying maybe certain stories are a little altered but the foundations are there, that I have no desire to share the good news and that I wish to hinder the spread of the gospel. Your attitude is as disgusting as others who want to vilify me for exposing the truth. The foundations are not there when they reject pillars of Christianity, and the preeminence of Christ as per God's revealed written Word. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for being so despicable in your attempts to whitewash their rejection of Scripture, and your attempt to hide this fact behind your self righteous outrage is equally disturbing.
 
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jaybird88

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It does not have to make sense in our European/American minds.
it does need to make sense or it does not hold water.

would you move your wife and kids away from the home you all love to go half way around the world to a place where they hate you just to get welfare? of course you wouldnt, so why would they?