TEN COMMANDMENTS STUDY
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It is because Father and Mother stand as symbols of God before that child. What they were to do was bring that child up in the ways of the Lord. To teach them to walk in the statutes of God. God takes this quite seriously. The danger of the rebellious child was one of dire consequences. "If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his hometown. They shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel will hear of it and fear." Deut 21:18-21.
love, if you ask me something or someone else there’s no telling the response that would come. So for instance if a mother or an father were ask a thing by their own child because of the love they hold for their children they would stop to think about the advice they would give to them in light of God,forever the consequences of what is right and wrong. So the mother and father would give advice that considers forever before God and not just a quick little answer,as if they were someone else’s child down the road.
In 1 Timothy Paul said to Timothy to honour an elder man as an father and the elder woman as an mother(1 Timothy 1-2),in Ephesians 6:2 he explains it is the first commandment with promise,,,there is more Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
Our fathers and our mothers are in the midst of loving us and so the things they would say to us as advice are completely different from the advice we would get from others. Some might say to do a certain thing and to ask forgiveness tomorrow but our mothers and fathers would have headed it off at the beginning and given their child the proper advice on the matter and why is because it meant that they were in the midst of loving their child and their desire to deliver the correct word to them. So are those elders who are in the midst of loving those in their midst so is the first commandment with promise,I am in the midst of loving you.
As far as the freedom of economic systems is concerned, if they are by the consent of the people and not abused by the office holders,why should any economic system be invalidated?
If you would say that socialists and communists are automatically atheists, to me that would be leaving the economic issues and turning to a different topic of religion.
An economic issue to me would be about how government deals with the issues and handling of money.
If we have the freedom to choose the way our economy works, can we then say that these other types of economies are invalidated?
If you would say that socialists and communists are automatically atheists, to me that would be leaving the economic issues and turning to a different topic of religion.
An economic issue to me would be about how government deals with the issues and handling of money.
If we have the freedom to choose the way our economy works, can we then say that these other types of economies are invalidated?
Well, it may be that in a capitalistic democracy they call it eminent domain, but it's close to the same, Yes?
The USA is supposed to be none of those, but they confiscate "national treasures" all the time it seems, meteorites, fossils, private collections, etc.
Just sayin. But I see the point that you are making, thanks.
The USA is supposed to be none of those, but they confiscate "national treasures" all the time it seems, meteorites, fossils, private collections, etc.
Just sayin. But I see the point that you are making, thanks.
Hi G7,
In context, the fear 1 John is speaking of is that we're not afraid of God's punishment if we are His child. We don't have to fear the punishment of hell. What awaits us will be glorious!
The fear of God is something entirely different.
1 Peter 1: 17-19
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
1 Peter 2:17
Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.
1 Peter 3:15
...but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;
2 Corinthians 7:1
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Hebrews 12:28-29
Therefore, since we receive a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude, by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe; for our God is a consuming fire.
The type of fear we have toward our Maker and Creator our God and Father is a reverent fear. It's an awesomeness that He's so mighty and powerful and I'm a tiny little ant in comparison. It's the knowing He's my creator and I'm His creation. He's God and I'm not.
It's a realization that nothing happens without His knowing it, creating it, allowing it, causing it.....whatever. If you've been in the military, you might have an idea of the fear, only not in the worldly sense of fear. And it's birthed out of the new creation, because I sure didn't have it before then. So it's foundation is love. And it's not a paralyzing fear or a fear that causes one to be afraid of an enemy. It's love and respect and honor. It's a fear that's hard to explain, but I know I have it.
I guess it could be similar to knowing your parents love you, but you fear them enough to do what they say. 
Hi G7,
In context, the fear 1 John is speaking of is that we're not afraid of God's punishment if we are His child. We don't have to fear the punishment of hell. What awaits us will be glorious!
The fear of God is something entirely different.
1 Peter 1: 17-19
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
1 Peter 2:17
Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.
1 Peter 3:15
...but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;
2 Corinthians 7:1
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Hebrews 12:28-29
Therefore, since we receive a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude, by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe; for our God is a consuming fire.
The type of fear we have toward our Maker and Creator our God and Father is a reverent fear. It's an awesomeness that He's so mighty and powerful and I'm a tiny little ant in comparison. It's the knowing He's my creator and I'm His creation. He's God and I'm not.
It's a realization that nothing happens without His knowing it, creating it, allowing it, causing it.....whatever. If you've been in the military, you might have an idea of the fear, only not in the worldly sense of fear. And it's birthed out of the new creation, because I sure didn't have it before then. So it's foundation is love. And it's not a paralyzing fear or a fear that causes one to be afraid of an enemy. It's love and respect and honor. It's a fear that's hard to explain, but I know I have it. I guess it could be similar to knowing your parents love you, but you fear them enough to do what they say.
In context, the fear 1 John is speaking of is that we're not afraid of God's punishment if we are His child. We don't have to fear the punishment of hell. What awaits us will be glorious!
The fear of God is something entirely different.
1 Peter 1: 17-19
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
1 Peter 2:17
Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.
1 Peter 3:15
...but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;
2 Corinthians 7:1
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Hebrews 12:28-29
Therefore, since we receive a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us show gratitude, by which we may offer to God an acceptable service with reverence and awe; for our God is a consuming fire.
The type of fear we have toward our Maker and Creator our God and Father is a reverent fear. It's an awesomeness that He's so mighty and powerful and I'm a tiny little ant in comparison. It's the knowing He's my creator and I'm His creation. He's God and I'm not.
It's a realization that nothing happens without His knowing it, creating it, allowing it, causing it.....whatever. If you've been in the military, you might have an idea of the fear, only not in the worldly sense of fear. And it's birthed out of the new creation, because I sure didn't have it before then. So it's foundation is love. And it's not a paralyzing fear or a fear that causes one to be afraid of an enemy. It's love and respect and honor. It's a fear that's hard to explain, but I know I have it.
I guess it could be similar to knowing your parents love you, but you fear them enough to do what they say. Hi Desertrose,
I agree...that's why I said this " While we do have reverence and are awestruck with Him we - are not fearful of Him."
Respect, being in awe, reverence and being "fearful" are two different things in my eyes but we english people can use the same term.
There are 2 applications of fear and one is for us His children and then there is another type of fear - as in - it's going to be a frightening thing for unbelievers to be in the hands/presence of our awesome and mighty Father.
I agree...it's all in the "lens" we use when we look at that scripture.
Old Covenant thinking says "Keep my commandments and prove you love me.
New Covenant thinking says " You will keep My commandments because you love Me."
It is descriptive of His life and love being in us and the fruit that comes from it.
We love because He first loved us.
I believe it is a fruit of His love being in us that we follow Him by the Spirit of God showing us His work on the cross and resurrection.
We can't manufacture or produce love as if it is our responsibility to do and if we don't - we are toast. That is religion. It is a description of the fruit that comes because they have the love of God in them because of Christ being in them.
Religion makes it a requirement and if you don't love the way that I think it should be done - you are not a believer or love God. It can be used as a disguise for legalism and can become a grace-nullifying belief system.
Old Covenant thinking says "Keep my commandments and prove you love me.
New Covenant thinking says " You will keep My commandments because you love Me."
It is descriptive of His life and love being in us and the fruit that comes from it.
We love because He first loved us.
I believe it is a fruit of His love being in us that we follow Him by the Spirit of God showing us His work on the cross and resurrection.
We can't manufacture or produce love as if it is our responsibility to do and if we don't - we are toast. That is religion. It is a description of the fruit that comes because they have the love of God in them because of Christ being in them.
Religion makes it a requirement and if you don't love the way that I think it should be done - you are not a believer or love God. It can be used as a disguise for legalism and can become a grace-nullifying belief system.
E. Condition nine – “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
1. To bear false witness is to contend publicly that one had personally witnessed the illegal or sinful behavior of another while knowing that the accusation is a lie. This sin goes far beyond that of simple malicious gossip.
2. The intent of bearing false witness against another is to create, for whatever reason, a public scandal and to enforce collective action against the accused. Political rhetoric is filled with the sin of bearing false witness. This is the bread and butter of tabloid news. Dr Strawn calls the violation of this commandment the sin of the four axes because it has far reaching effects.
a. The first is the sin against the truth.
b. The second is the sin against God.
c. The third is the sin against one's neighbor.
d. The fourth is the sin against the community.
This action is deliberate in its motives. It targets not only the accused but the whole community collectively with the hopes that the lie will be believed by by the aggregate. It's purpose is to create within the minds of the hearers an evil impression of the victim. This activates fears and introduces questions and doubts about the accused. It fires up the imagination with falsehoods and the mind then begins to create its own scenario about the possibilities. It does this by assuming that the accusation is a plausible possibility. After all, we are all sinners, all of us have our weaknesses, all of us are susceptible to temptation so, it just might be true. Now, doubt of innocence is considered. This is called “poisoning the well.” This practice was certainly not the invention of Saul Alinsky but he was certainly one who learned the effectiveness of this practice. Inevitably, the lie once conceived become fact in the minds of the hearers. Its purpose is to damage trust in one another and to collapse the cohesion of the people. It is natural for people to turn to cynicism believing that everyone is motivated only by self interest.
3. The accusation throws the victim on the defensive. How does the accused prove that something that never happened, never happened? Thus, in order to preserve the integrity of one's relationship with God, the integrity of the one's neighbor and the community, and uphold the dignity of the truth, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
F. Condition ten – “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
1. This is actually one command, “You shall not covet” but, with a complex of applications herein stipulated. Covetousness is the act of wanting for yourself that which rightfully belongs to another and hating you brother because he has it and you do not with the intent of possibly trying to obtain it unlawfully. God has already commanded, “You shall not steal.” How does one begin to steal, by coveting that which belongs to another.
2. Covetousness is nothing less that an act of being ungreatful and thankless. If God has bless another with something we desire, that is none of our business. This sin changes the direction of one's focus. We are to give thanks to the Almighty for the things he has elected to give us and not on what he has chosen to give someone else.
3. Covetousness is at the very least, the beginning of a process of rationalized behavior to obtain that to which one has no right.
4. Violation of this command puts distance between pragmatics and virtue. We are not permitted to allow personal desires to breech the threshold of personal virtue.
5. This commandment reveals a way of reasoning about things that becomes a personal motive. As believers, we are held accountable for the way we reason toward things. The covetous person worships at the throne of self. Immorality, passion, impurity, evil desires and greed devise ways of obtaining what one desires. This commandment drives a wedge between purely pragmatic behavior and the virtuous mind. One's life must develop by means of the linkage of personal virtue to the Almighty himself. Personal desire and gratification must be redirected by faith in God. The virtuous mind does not covet. The ten commandments is the line of demarcation between the mind of the flesh and the mind of God.
III. The Revealed Principles at the Heart of the Ten Commandments are NOT Time Contingent.
The ten commandments run like an axis through time. This axis of revelation runs from Sinai to the present day pulpit. The ten commandments was the beginning of Israel's real understanding of God. This understanding was rooted in the words that God imparted to the people. The pulpit must also be a place where people are introduced to God through the deliverance of the words of the Lord. Possessed by the gravity of revelation, the pulpit must be unshackled from human opinion and social approval. The pulpit is to provide no compromise nor abridgment of the revealed truth.
Today, one might conclude that the pulpit has lost its thunder and comforts itself to the acceptance of socialized ideology about life and human behavior. Apostate, progressive ideologies have ruled that thunder from the pulpit is out of order. If preachers are to open their mouths, what proceeds hence MUST come from the uncompromised language manifold of scripture. There can never be “thunder from the pulpit” as long as the word of God is submerged in the rationalization of scripture.
1. To bear false witness is to contend publicly that one had personally witnessed the illegal or sinful behavior of another while knowing that the accusation is a lie. This sin goes far beyond that of simple malicious gossip.
2. The intent of bearing false witness against another is to create, for whatever reason, a public scandal and to enforce collective action against the accused. Political rhetoric is filled with the sin of bearing false witness. This is the bread and butter of tabloid news. Dr Strawn calls the violation of this commandment the sin of the four axes because it has far reaching effects.
a. The first is the sin against the truth.
b. The second is the sin against God.
c. The third is the sin against one's neighbor.
d. The fourth is the sin against the community.
This action is deliberate in its motives. It targets not only the accused but the whole community collectively with the hopes that the lie will be believed by by the aggregate. It's purpose is to create within the minds of the hearers an evil impression of the victim. This activates fears and introduces questions and doubts about the accused. It fires up the imagination with falsehoods and the mind then begins to create its own scenario about the possibilities. It does this by assuming that the accusation is a plausible possibility. After all, we are all sinners, all of us have our weaknesses, all of us are susceptible to temptation so, it just might be true. Now, doubt of innocence is considered. This is called “poisoning the well.” This practice was certainly not the invention of Saul Alinsky but he was certainly one who learned the effectiveness of this practice. Inevitably, the lie once conceived become fact in the minds of the hearers. Its purpose is to damage trust in one another and to collapse the cohesion of the people. It is natural for people to turn to cynicism believing that everyone is motivated only by self interest.
3. The accusation throws the victim on the defensive. How does the accused prove that something that never happened, never happened? Thus, in order to preserve the integrity of one's relationship with God, the integrity of the one's neighbor and the community, and uphold the dignity of the truth, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”
F. Condition ten – “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
1. This is actually one command, “You shall not covet” but, with a complex of applications herein stipulated. Covetousness is the act of wanting for yourself that which rightfully belongs to another and hating you brother because he has it and you do not with the intent of possibly trying to obtain it unlawfully. God has already commanded, “You shall not steal.” How does one begin to steal, by coveting that which belongs to another.
2. Covetousness is nothing less that an act of being ungreatful and thankless. If God has bless another with something we desire, that is none of our business. This sin changes the direction of one's focus. We are to give thanks to the Almighty for the things he has elected to give us and not on what he has chosen to give someone else.
3. Covetousness is at the very least, the beginning of a process of rationalized behavior to obtain that to which one has no right.
4. Violation of this command puts distance between pragmatics and virtue. We are not permitted to allow personal desires to breech the threshold of personal virtue.
5. This commandment reveals a way of reasoning about things that becomes a personal motive. As believers, we are held accountable for the way we reason toward things. The covetous person worships at the throne of self. Immorality, passion, impurity, evil desires and greed devise ways of obtaining what one desires. This commandment drives a wedge between purely pragmatic behavior and the virtuous mind. One's life must develop by means of the linkage of personal virtue to the Almighty himself. Personal desire and gratification must be redirected by faith in God. The virtuous mind does not covet. The ten commandments is the line of demarcation between the mind of the flesh and the mind of God.
III. The Revealed Principles at the Heart of the Ten Commandments are NOT Time Contingent.
The ten commandments run like an axis through time. This axis of revelation runs from Sinai to the present day pulpit. The ten commandments was the beginning of Israel's real understanding of God. This understanding was rooted in the words that God imparted to the people. The pulpit must also be a place where people are introduced to God through the deliverance of the words of the Lord. Possessed by the gravity of revelation, the pulpit must be unshackled from human opinion and social approval. The pulpit is to provide no compromise nor abridgment of the revealed truth.
Today, one might conclude that the pulpit has lost its thunder and comforts itself to the acceptance of socialized ideology about life and human behavior. Apostate, progressive ideologies have ruled that thunder from the pulpit is out of order. If preachers are to open their mouths, what proceeds hence MUST come from the uncompromised language manifold of scripture. There can never be “thunder from the pulpit” as long as the word of God is submerged in the rationalization of scripture.
Its more of a teaching moment. Most of what the Lord Jesus says is teaching us.
Love the Lord your God with all your heart.... a command.
If you love me, you will keep my commands.
Attempting to love the Lord is not the obedience that is required. Loving the Lord because He first loved us shows that we are in fact, keeping His Commands.
Refusal to obey.... No one really refuses. They either are given the gift and have received the gift, or they have not received the gift. If they have not received the gift they are not refusing, they just can't do it.
How can you love someone who you don't believe in? If you do believe in Him and you believe His Promises then you have received His Gift and you desire to do His Will. Which is to visit those who are without Him in this world. Explain His Goodness... etc
Love the Lord your God with all your heart.... a command.
If you love me, you will keep my commands.
Attempting to love the Lord is not the obedience that is required. Loving the Lord because He first loved us shows that we are in fact, keeping His Commands.
Refusal to obey.... No one really refuses. They either are given the gift and have received the gift, or they have not received the gift. If they have not received the gift they are not refusing, they just can't do it.
How can you love someone who you don't believe in? If you do believe in Him and you believe His Promises then you have received His Gift and you desire to do His Will. Which is to visit those who are without Him in this world. Explain His Goodness... etc