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eternally-gratefull

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To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience. --Aiden Wilson Tozer

Thats what the jews did, They went from one extreme to the other. (only opposite) They went from a licentious salvation wihtout obedience to a salvation of works.


 
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Yes, you "love them" so much that you call them derogatory names, then deflect and make light of it. :/ And if loving your enemy is "idiotic", then why do you do it? Of course evil leads to death, and we ALL gonna die for our faith...
Sorry blue. I should be racked with guilt for being condemned as lost, not a believer,
evil, an apostate, because some contributor is someone you like. If I call them out
and conclude they have a serious personality flaw, explain it, and no one responds
with another alternative, then I am right and justified. Do I need to say more?
This is the way of the Lord, shinning light into peoples lives, giving them a chance
and stating what is going on. It is up to people to get their act together and move
or the Lord will speak something very different into their lives. You do not play games
with God, ever.
 

blue_ladybug

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I'm done engaging you. If I keep on, I'll end up saying something to get me banned...
 
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Ariel82

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Ummmmm no comparison to salvation based upon...

I am sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise
I am in the Father's hand
I am in the Son's Hand
Jesus promised to finish what he started with me and raise me up at the last day
Salvation cannot be stolen and or lost.

To the gun point....no...I would

a. Pick up another weapon and deal with it
b. Put a Marine Corp --- whipping on them and then call the ambulance ;)
Lol yes there is a comparisons to Salvation.

You don't see the Parallel but Jesus is our marine when folks Try to steal our "gun"....or take our salvation and our lives out of His hands.

The other weapons we have is God's words found in the Bible, and prayer.

I wonder how many people pick them up in defense of theirs and others "gun"

(how's that for cute and cuddly?)
 
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Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.
Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes.
Proverbs 26:4-5

Not sure who you are saying is the fool and who is answering them.

And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Matt 5:22

Would you like to explain or else people might think you are the fool and we
should ignore you, lol, which would be ironic, as you posted the quote.
 
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I'm done engaging you. If I keep on, I'll end up saying something to get me banned...
Would I notice the difference?
I do not want you to be banned from an environment which means so much to you.

I wish you well, God bless, may the Lord give you His peace and love in abundance.
 

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To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience. --Aiden Wilson Tozer
Tozer was one of the great writers in the last century.

The trend in the modern day church wants only Jesus as Saviour, but could not care less in having Him as Lord.
 

blue_ladybug

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Isn't much love anywhere in THIS forum... Don't know why I bother coming in here. It's the most hate-filled, evil, contentious forum I've ever seen..
 
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Ariel82

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Again....vacillating is a very accurate word to describe the actions of more than a few on this site......just saying.......
Vacillating | Define Vacillating at Dictionary.com

vacillating
[vas-uh-ley-ting]
adjective
not resolute; wavering; indecisive; hesitating:
an ineffectual, vacillating person.
oscillating; swaying; fluctuating:
a vacillating indicator.


Is that a bad thing?

Maybe God is working on their hearts that they may repentant and turn to Him and His truth?
 

gb9

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Would I notice the difference?
I do not want you to be banned from an environment which means so much to you.

I wish you well, God bless, may the Lord give you His peace and love in abundance.
no, I don't think you notice anything except expressing your thoughts and your precious emotions. you have no interest in anything that is not in lock-step with your ( laughable ) belief system, and instead of engaging , you just attack, slander , and outright lie about what others are saying.
 
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Ariel82

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Isn't much love anywhere in THIS forum... Don't know why I bother coming in here. It's the most hate-filled, evil, contentious forum I've ever seen..
Cuz you love me and others blue. That's why you come.

Don't let them get to you.

If you must, just toss a cake at them.

DCON says they want cake.

Ps. Ignore allows you to read a thread without getting distracted by folks you know will attack you unprovoked.
 
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Here is another thing I will point out about you. In several of your posts, you subtly insult people. EG has nothing to do with this, yet you're dragging him into it. God never said to insult your enemies. :/ He said to love them, but IMO you ain't showing ANY of Christ's love to them at all...
As a point, I am not insulting people, I am being honest.
I have said similar things about EG, because he could not stop saying the
same rubbish stuff, because he was addicted to it.

So I am telling you this is not a unique behaviour pattern. And funnily I am
quite good at seeing the person behind the phrases.

And on the subject of interaction I have very little with these guys, because
they have nothing to prove, I know their failed arguments.

unbelief - no salvation, belief with unbelief following - salvation.
belief with unbelief following - no salvation if works involved lol.
 
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Ariel82

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Tozer was one of the great writers in the last century.

The trend in the modern day church wants only Jesus as Saviour, but could not care less in having Him as Lord.
Uh o....folks are gonna link you with stuff some false teacher of lordship salvation taught...better clarify or this could get ugly.....
 

gb9

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Isn't much love anywhere in THIS forum... Don't know why I bother coming in here. It's the most hate-filled, evil, contentious forum I've ever seen..
the whole problem, ms. blue, is this- some people think that they do not sin. this leads them to believe that they have the moral high ground to stand on and shout down at all us reprobate, who openly admit that we are not perfect and sinless.

it is sadly a stronghold the enemy has put into their minds.
 
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Ariel82

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Let me clarify.

I accept Jesus as my Savior and Lord.

He shines a light into my feet and shows me where to go.

He renews my heart and mind and helps me tear down false strongholds that war against His knowledge and wisdom.
 
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no, I don't think you notice anything except expressing your thoughts and your precious emotions. you have no interest in anything that is not in lock-step with your ( laughable ) belief system, and instead of engaging , you just attack, slander , and outright lie about what others are saying.
ok, but this is just slander, ridicule, personality assassination as well as saying I am lying.
This is the beginning of real hatred, and bitterness, but about what?
You are calling the gospel a laughable belief system.

Not trying to win friends and influence people then, lol. So apostate, have a nice day,
and God bless you, in whatever you do.

Makes me wonder when the pitch forks and burnings are going to begin?
 
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Ariel82

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the whole problem, ms. blue, is this- some people think that they do not sin. this leads them to believe that they have the moral high ground to stand on and shout down at all us reprobate, who openly admit that we are not perfect and sinless.

it is sadly a stronghold the enemy has put into their minds.
No the problem is that they don't admit what they do is sin. They label God's high standard of what is and isn't sin "hyper legalism" and believe they should not submit to God's teachings but twist it to only mean those they believe "deserves" being treated with respect are those who first respect them. Loving only those who first love them.

They ignore Jesus command that we as His born again people must love our enemies and have a love GREATER THAN THE WORLD. For even the world love those who love them.

They have earthly wisdom and deny the inner teachings of righteousness and purity that God demands.

They proclaim to be teachers of righteousness and the Law but only teach outward commandments without inward change in their own hearts.
 

blue_ladybug

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How does it feel, Peter? You got mad at what gb9 just said to you, yet you turn around and call him names. Predictable behavior from you, whether you admit it or not.. Every single one of your posts is filled with derisive words and insults, yet you call them "truth"..
 

gb9

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ok, but this is just slander, ridicule, personality assassination as well as saying I am lying.
This is the beginning of real hatred, and bitterness, but about what?
You are calling the gospel a laughable belief system.

Not trying to win friends and influence people then, lol. So apostate, have a nice day,
and God bless you, in whatever you do.

Makes me wonder when the pitch forks and burnings are going to begin?
no peter, I 100% believe the Gospel. you 60% do not teach it. that 60% is laughable.