Not By Works

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stonesoffire

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PeterJens said:
My problem is how I see God. So you see a problem. You are saying you have spotted a cause,
but what is the problem? That I do not just believe God does everything, I just believe?

What is amazing is this attempt to diagnose a problem rather than feel encouraged to know God
deeper and better.

"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
John 15:5

Walking in love and purity is our calling. I wonder how many actually are listening or
believe this is true?

What is sad is how many unresolved issues are being testified to tonight, kept locked
up and hidden away, as if nothing will change and everything is fine just as it is.

God calls us to bring Him our hurts, our conflicts, our unforgiveness, our sins, our
desires, our dreams, our disappointments and let Him heal and walk with us through
them all. Do you think you can do this, or have ever done this? The loving Jesus
Christ is here wanting to minister to you today. Amen, Come Lord Jesus and heal
your people today, take our sins and shame, forgive us our unbelief and mold us
into the image of your only Son Jesus Christ, for the glory of your Name, Amen.
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There is such a thing as circumcised ear and eye. Its when the dullness is taken away to hear and see without any other influence except His.

I see that you know a lot in your head. But, what we all sense yet Peter, is that time that the Word touches that inside place with that sharp sword made out of the Cross.

I mean no disrespect to you in any way.
 
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dcontroversal said:
John--->I seen the dead stand before God and the BOOKS were opened and the book of life....MY view....all lost will be judged by the books of the law (5) and found guilty because their sins have not been covered....the book of life confirms their lost and condemned state!
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the deception grows....
 
dcontroversal

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BillG said:
I don't really like cake.

now I like money.

If I post something that would deserved cake can I ask that you all throw money at me.

No coins please just notes
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Bills/Notes won't fly that far HAHAHAH
 
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dcontroversal said:
John--->I seen the dead stand before God and the BOOKS were opened and the book of life....MY view....all lost will be judged by the books of the law (5) and found guilty because their sins have not been covered....the book of life (not found in it) confirms their lost and condemned state!
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Did you just say you see the dead?!?!

Just kidding.

Glad you agree.
 
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BillG said:
I don't really like cake.

now I like money.

If I post something that would deserved cake can I ask that you all throw money at me.

No coins please just notes
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First you gripe about plates, now it's No coins

There is just no pleasing this man.....




Lol.

Careful how you respond, I have hot oil going for my egg rolls.
 
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dcontroversal

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JIMBO43 said:
if i had one of theese works am i saved .?

To Everything There is a Season
…7A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. 8A time to love and a time to hate; A time for war and a time for peace. 9What profit is there to the worker from that in which he toils?…


The answer is no so why am i a cake taker ?


I mean have i recieved my salvation if i have one of the above works ?
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Salvation comes in only one package deal....faith into Jesus....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life.
 
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Premise 1:

All of humanity descended from Adam and Eve and Jesus came to redeem all from the curse we inherited from Adam.

Premise 2: Israel was only special because Jesus came from the bloodline and is the promised Seed mentioned in Genesis 3. They were entrusted with the oracles and prophecies concerning Jesus birth and how He would save the world.

Premise 3: God talks to the entire world and teaches them the Law: moral code of what is right and wrong.

Premise 4: The moral standard set by God can be found in many major world religions, but salvation in faith in what Jesus did upon the cross is the cornerstone of Christian beliefs and the only true gospel.
 
BillG

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Ariel82 said:
I see what you are saying, but the whole world was placed under the "Law" because by it everyone is condemned and shown to need a savior.

Time crunch today. Will try and post scriptures later.

I believe anyone not under the New Covenant established by Jesus will be judged by the moral laws given to mankind since the beginning of time.
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Whilst I see what you are saying to me the law we seem to be discussing is the law of God given to Israel before they entered Canaan .

This law, the 10 commandments were given in order that the people know not to follow the ways of the people in the land that God was about to give them.

God is saying this is how they live, this is how they should not live.

Now live like I ask you to then all will be well.

Side note, that generation that God delivered from Egypt did inherit this land, reason being they lacked faith that God would follow through his promise. They grumbled and wanted to go backwards and forwards.

So to me not all who lived at the time were under the 10 commandments and would not be judged on that.

Those under the law will be judged by it but those who did not or do not know the law will be judged by the law written in their hearts, their conscience.

Romans 2:12-16


For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
 
JIMBO43

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dcontroversal said:
Jesus said that IF you had faith the size of a mustard seed you could...

a. Say to this mountain and....
b. Say to this tree and....

etc.....

Funny thing....I see no "mountains or trees being ripped up and moved"......so....what does that say about faith right now?

Just asking and not implying.........
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does it say your faith isnt strong enough or does it say you can climb mount everest... but ya still have to stay alive while ya do it..
 
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dcontroversal said:
Salvation comes in only one package deal....faith into Jesus....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

He that believes on the SON is having everlasting life.
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faith comes from believing and is a gift.. faith is not the crown,,, the end reward is your salvation..
 
dcontroversal

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JIMBO43 said:
faith comes from believing and is a gift.. faith is not the crown,,, the end reward is your salvation..
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The just shall live by faith<---Not salvation which = spiritual birth

Faith, hope, love and salvation are all gifts<---FREE in Christ
 
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Jimbo, sometimes folks get overzealous when guarding their cake that anyone approaching or eyeballing "their precious" may get a pie in the face.

Just a friendly warning.

Lol I was poking at Dcon and Bill so was waiting for retaliation.
 
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