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BillG

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What a testimony to the grace of our Lord. Even through suffering, He held you in his hand!

I often look at my life in a similar fashion, that in the midst of all of the destruction and loss that He is holding me in His hand, in the air, saying "this one belongs to me forever, you(the world) won't get him back".
This happens in the midst of my sin, my battles and my life, no matter what anyone tells me falsely about my God. God Bless you Bill G
Amen brother,

"This one belongs to me and you the world won't get him back"

Wonderul statement.
 

mailmandan

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so miilions of people world wide who go to church and eat the bread on a weekly communion... are all disrespecting god with bad works ?... you are deluded...
I NEVER said that taking communion at church is a bad work that disrespects God. Where do you come up with this stuff? :eek:
 
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Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

2 Corinthians 6:2
“In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

AMEN and this is worth reposting perpetually hahaha
 
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Ive b never seen so much hate in one place befor in my life.... all i can say is cowards....im outer of here
This statement takes the cake for b.s.......NO ONE HATES YOU.....now your doctrine on the other hand...... ;)
 

BillG

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AMEN and this is worth reposting perpetually hahaha
It is.

Maybe it will help people realise we are not greasy gracers.

We know the price paid. When Jesus said "It is finished, price paid here is the cheque to prove it wanna bank it?

When we bank it, its not only in our account it's in the bank of God.

I dare anyone to try and break into the bank of God.

Praying safe journey for you tomorrow.

Praying a wonderful time and a time of relaxation and rest. May our father reveal more of himself to you and yours on this trip.

Do me a favour. Eat a big prawn for me and toast me with whatever beverage you are imbibing in.

God bless you DC and may his grace and love envelop you.

Your brother in Christ

Bill (prawn taker, pickled onion taker and pickled egg taker)
 
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It is.

Maybe it will help people realise we are not greasy gracers.

We know the price paid. When Jesus said "It is finished, price paid here is the cheque to prove it wanna bank it?

When we bank it, its not only in our account it's in the bank of God.

I date anyone to try and break into the bank of God.

Praying safe journey for you tomorrow.

Praying a wonderful time and a time of relaxation and rest. May our father reveal more of himself to you and yours on this trip.

Do me a favour. Eat a big prawn for me and toast me with whatever beverage you are imbibing in.

God bless you DC and may his grace and love envelop you.

Your brother in Christ


Bill (prawn taker, pickled onion taker and pickled egg taker)
You got that right and for sure migo......
 
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Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

2 Corinthians 6:2
“In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
The problem with this is Jesus meets us, none of His need such a construct they know him and he
knows them. When I cash a cheque I do not know the cashier.

The brother knows His Lord, and His Lord runs to greet him, at which there is great
rejoicing, but also much sadness at all those lost.
 
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I am not a transubstansiationist, but I do understand the why.
It is taking holiness and the sacredness too far. On the other side
I see the respect held.
I much prefer this to lawlessness.
 
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The problem with this is Jesus meets us, none of His need such a construct they know him and he
knows them. When I cash a cheque I do not know the cashier.

The brother knows His Lord, and His Lord runs to greet him, at which there is great
rejoicing, but also much sadness at all those lost.
Thanks for reminding me of why I keep you on ignore.....serious
 
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This statement takes the cake for b.s.......NO ONE HATES YOU.....now your doctrine on the other hand...... ;)
Let him, if he wants to be that dramatic and overreacting, just let him. He can see the truth that noone here hates him, he's just being dramatic and overreacting. Just let him go cool off for a while and moan and cry.
 
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Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

2 Corinthians 6:2
“In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Ahhh man, someone else rep this guy.
 
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I NEVER said that taking communion at church is a bad work that disrespects God. Where do you come up with this stuff? :eek:
It is like these guys have no ability to read something and comprehend it........some of the stuff they read in......TAKES the cake.....!
 

slave

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This statement takes the cake for b.s.......NO ONE HATES YOU.....now your doctrine on the other hand...... ;)
Ephesians 4:29 ESV /

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
 

JohnTalmid

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Now just so you all know I am not getting at anyone but I would like to ask the following a simple thing.

lets say I know of someone who can't afford to put food on the table. So I buy them a load of groceries.

lets say someone else knows of someone who can't put food on the table and they buy them a load of groceries.

Neither of us have done it for personal recognition but seen a genuine need.

I am a believer and the other person is not.

What is the difference between them and me?
What separates us in terms of the good work we have both done?
Respectfully I would have to say the unbeliever has done a better work than the believer.
This is why...
Not everyone who says Lord Lord didn't we feed the hungry in your name?
Get away from me you workers of lawlessness.

Lawlessness in thus sense is the loving instruction God our Father has made available to all who believe in Messiah. These "good works" created beforehand for mankind to walk in where made a stumbling block for many. Christian theology teaches they can't be done correctly so don't try to, and on the other hand the Jewish religion teaches to keep the fence so you don't approach the "good works" to get them wrong.

The irony is both sides are walking right next to the narrow path but fail to see what's on front of them.

Messiah teaches to "do as he does" and "be perfect". The apostolic writings testified that the .Sabbath was kept by the assembly. The Catholic church even admitted they changed the Sabbath to Sunday and their is no scripture that backs the decision to do so. The 1000$ prize is still available to anyone who can show from scripture that it is what we are to do.
In fact Catholic priests have admitted to even changing the law of God.

Why is this important? Because all modern Protestant churches today have the source of their authority leading back to this mother, they are the daughter's of the harlot.

Now I'm not saying that's how God See's you now but He has said "get out of her my people".

Good works of the law of God in Messiah..

These works are not or ever required however if you are an active participant in your sanctification you can not disagree with any command of God in the entire Book of scriptures. This is where you can find out if you are a legalist. I don't believe that keeping Torah is what proves I'm saved I believe how I agree with it and also condemn sin in myself and praise Messiah for the instruction proved I am being redeemed. These good works include keeping Sabbath or at least remembering it on the day and remembering its fulfillment in Messiah, that I can do nothing but rest I'm it. Just like the promised redemption of us from sin the good news of the cross that it is a free gift. All I must do is rest in it and we are brought close to the covenants and promises of God to take hold of.

What is the least important command? Many experts would say it is to empty the nest of mother before gathering the eggs. If this seems hard you are wrong. If you don't do it are you condemned in Messiah?No. Is it a sin if you don't do it given the opportunity?Yes. This is the truth! Sin is violation of the Torah.Kjv
So what are we to do if we want to be saved. Keep the commandments out of love for Messiah. Don't think I'm saying to abolish the law He came to fill it.

If you don't approach the law of God with a pure heart all you get from it is condemnations and if you approach it by wat of newness of the spirit in its words are the way a child of God should go.

So to answer your question again and simpler. Neither of the "believer" or "unbeliever" did the good works because the good works came from God.
 

preacher4truth

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The problem with this is Jesus meets us, none of His need such a construct they know him and he
knows them. When I cash a cheque I do not know the cashier.

The brother knows His Lord, and His Lord runs to greet him, at which there is great
rejoicing, but also much sadness at all those lost.

Well, at least you try really hard to sound coherent. Or something. Maybe you're trying to sound poetic. Or super spiritual. Otr you think you're impressing someone. It is super something in your effort but in the end it is incoherent.
 
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Ephesians 4:29 ESV /

Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Your not my conscience nor my pastor or spiritual leader....so.......go bark up someone else's tree pal! AND you ASSUME much......
 

slave

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Your not my conscience nor my pastor or spiritual leader....so.......go bark up someone else's tree pal! AND you ASSUME much......
All I gave you was God's written Word, I said nothing. To Whom are you yelling at? Thus, what spirit is yelling at me?
 

JohnTalmid

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Let him, if he wants to be that dramatic and overreacting, just let him. He can see the truth that noone here hates him, he's just being dramatic and overreacting. Just let him go cool off for a while and moan and cry.
Keep turning the other cheek brothers. To some darkness is reserved for them as wondering stars with no light in themselves.
 
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All I gave you was God's written Word, I said nothing. To Whom are you yelling at? Thus, what spirit is yelling at me?
Who said I yelled and you judged what I said by your quote....so...again....YOU ASSUME much.....
 
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Sometimes we might mock people,or speak inappropriately,but I find that the people that do it the most,and the most vicious,is people that believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,for they seem to be worldly,and speak according to the flesh a lot,and get the most short with people,might call them names.