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[FONT="]6 I saw a Lamb in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, standing as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth. [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]7 He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne[/FONT]
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7 He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne
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[h=1]"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him, and he in God."[/h]
I confess Jesus is the Son of God.
All who believe scripture agree that God lives in me, and I live in God.
There is definitely a difference between "organized" religion and God's word,organized religion twists and mashes God's word into it's own mold for it's own purposes,fanatical terrorists or a good example.
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Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
i think he means he will use scripture for understanding and correction
but not mans understanding of them mailman
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
i think he means he will use scripture for understanding and correction
but not mans understanding of them mailman
He can clarify that for himself and I'm very familiar with 1 Corinthians 2:11-14.
The fact is trinitarian interpretations and inferences and speculation are worse than worthless.
Worthless counter productive sidetracks that puff people up with worthless doctrines of demons.
I confess Jesus is the Son of God and scripture says God is in me and I am in God.
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Anyone can give lip service confession that Jesus is the Son of God without understanding what "Son of God" truly means. That's really strong language for someone who can't answer a simple question. I'll ask it again: Do you believe that "Son of God" means that Jesus is God in essence/nature? Co-equal with the Father?
In John 10:30, Jesus said - “I and the Father are one.” Look at the Jews reaction in John 10:33 - The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." Here we see an actual claim. The Jews understood Jesus’ statement to be a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus never corrects the Jews by saying, “I did not claim to be God.” That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). *JESUS IS GOD.
John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, "I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM." Again, in response, the Jews take up stones in an attempt to stone Jesus (John 8:59). Why would the Jews want to stone Jesus if He hadn’t said something they believed to be blasphemous, namely, a claim to be God? John repeatedly tells us of the Lord's connection to "I Am". See John: 4:26, 8:24, 8:28, 8:58, and 13:19.
The Apostle Paul tells us that Jesus "..is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him: And he is before all things, and by Him all things consist." (Colossians 1:15-17)
Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom.
John 1:1 clearly says - In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and “the Word was God.” John 1:14 says, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us”. This clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh.
Colossians 2:9 (NKJV) For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9 - (Amplified) For in Him all the fullness of Deity (the Godhead) dwells in bodily form [completely expressing the divine essence of God].
Matthew 1:23 - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
In John 20:27, Jesus said to Thomas - "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing." 28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" *JESUS IS GOD.
He understands you haven't understood His Strength yet; haven't succumbed to your love for Him over your love for the world. I, too, am glad He forgives us, as we confess and move onward and upward once more, as He remains patiently faithful to us. We must walk alongside Him becoming in our Character whom He is, which in our individuality, we lack, until it is not I who lives, but it is Christ who lives in me. This is all in addition to the fact I already know and accept the reality of myself also dying on the Cross with Jesus.To die to the right to myself is a very grinding personal experience and choice; that only starts its journey from the premise historically of event of my death with Jesus on the Cross..
James 1:6:
"But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind."
[FONT=hurme_no2-webfont]Assurance of Salvation
1 John 5:11-12
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
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John 16:24
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Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
[/FONT][FONT=hurme_no2-webfont]Assurance of Victory
1 Corinthians 10:13
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No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.
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1 John 1:9
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If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
[/FONT][FONT=hurme_no2-webfont]Assurance of Guidance
Proverbs 3:5-6
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Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.
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Trinitarianism is insidious.
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God
[John 10:36] and endorsed being identified as the Son OF God. [Matt 16]
Christians contend Jesus is the Son OF God. Trinitarians contend Jesus IS God.
(next Trinitarians start spouting "Mary is the mother of God and "Queen of Heaven" and "co redemptrix" and the like)
See Matt 16 Peter's confession that Jesus endorsed.
Listen to following:
"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." 1 John 4:15 ......
"...I [Jesus] said, I am the Son of God"” John 10:36
“And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ” John 17:3
“Jesus said …. go unto my brothers, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God” John 20:17
TRINITARIANS put a stumbling block in the way of the blind [Muslims and Jews].
Trinitarianism is insidious.
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God.
By contending and demanding confession that Jesus IS God, TRINITARIANS have been putting stumbling block in front of Muslims and Jews since the state church of the Roman Empire was established on 27 February 380 with the Edict of Thessalonica, when Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene [TRINITARIAN] "Christianity" the Empire's sole authorized religion.
The Roman empire empowered the TRINITARIAN imitation "church" that the deceived world has thought the real Church ever since.
With the Edict of Milan of 313, Constantine I gave/established tolerance for Christianity, thus at this time Christians ceased being deemed enemies of the state.
The Trinitarian cult, imposed on the Roman empire in 380ad caused Christians to be persecuted as “heretics.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_church_of_the_Roman_Empire
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God
[John 10:36] and endorsed being identified as the Son OF God. [Matt 16]
Christians contend Jesus is the Son OF God. Trinitarians contend Jesus IS God.
(next Trinitarians start spouting "Mary is the mother of God and "Queen of Heaven" and "co redemptrix" and the like)
See Matt 16 Peter's confession that Jesus endorsed.
Listen to following:
"Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." 1 John 4:15 ......
"...I [Jesus] said, I am the Son of God"” John 10:36
“And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ” John 17:3
“Jesus said …. go unto my brothers, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God” John 20:17
TRINITARIANS put a stumbling block in the way of the blind [Muslims and Jews].
Trinitarianism is insidious.
Contending Jesus “IS” God seems to honor Jesus,
but actually is a refusal to abide in the word of Jesus who identified Himself as Son OF God.
By contending and demanding confession that Jesus IS God, TRINITARIANS have been putting stumbling block in front of Muslims and Jews since the state church of the Roman Empire was established on 27 February 380 with the Edict of Thessalonica, when Emperor Theodosius I made Nicene [TRINITARIAN] "Christianity" the Empire's sole authorized religion.
The Roman empire empowered the TRINITARIAN imitation "church" that the deceived world has thought the real Church ever since.
With the Edict of Milan of 313, Constantine I gave/established tolerance for Christianity, thus at this time Christians ceased being deemed enemies of the state.
The Trinitarian cult, imposed on the Roman empire in 380ad caused Christians to be persecuted as “heretics.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_church_of_the_Roman_Empire
john 3:16 is so simple......but this is an argument ive been through soooo many times. the only begotten SON OF the Living God. did you know that in the Gospels God says " this is my son listen to Him" at baptism, and at the transfiguration. peter confesses " you are the Christ, the Son of the living God" and Jesus affirms it and says "God revealed that to you" many other instances other than Just Jesus himself, Paul says it, all the epistles, the prophets ect.
If John 3:16 is true. God sent His Only begotten Son to save us........simplicity is truth
So if Jesus is LORD and that doctrine is inspired by the Holy Spirit and you have declared it to be a doctrine of demons you know what that means,, don't you ?????
Do you know what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is?
Isaiah 9: KJV
6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. {7} Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."
Who is the Child that was born? Who was the Son that was given who is called Mighty God and the Father ???
Will you now stand and call Isaiah a false prophet who delivering doctrines of demons ???