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J
i agree, angel is one specific class of sons of the Most High
i think there was a change in Adam.
Gen 1 27
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So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
his creation, in the image of the Most High.
Gen 5 3
When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.
Adams creation, in the image of Adam.
and Adams offspring took place after the fall.
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”
Adam didnt have mortality until he was expelled from the garden. not the same as mankind who is very mortal.
i think there was a change in Adam.
Gen 1 27
27
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
his creation, in the image of the Most High.
Gen 5 3
When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.
Adams creation, in the image of Adam.
and Adams offspring took place after the fall.
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”
Adam didnt have mortality until he was expelled from the garden. not the same as mankind who is very mortal.
please take note of the little "g" also means lord in the new testament = ruler ever noticed where the English spoke to nobles and said "my lord" it is the a positional statement not a literal. think about it God said I am God and there is No other. why would HE then n make us gods ? the context is important this is the same thinking of the WOF which is error we are not gods in the context of relationship with angels and I mean sexual relationships with angels. Authority we have been given BY God acting on HIS behalf .
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Let me answer it this way...God adopted you right? Ok...Your Earthly father is human right? Your mother too, I assume. That would make you human too? I thought so....If God is god, Jesus is God and you are adopted so that God is your father....You are as god too. Let's see....You are a three part being You have the same creative abilities, you have exactly the same authorities that Jesus has. You have dominion in the Earth..and you are to reign here....Yup. You're a god
Just to throw in a few points to ponder...most fail to acknowlede the following...
a. There is a heavenly, celestial form and a fallen, earthly form....
b. Angels traditionally took a form SIMILAR TO MAN AND ARE ALL MASCULINE when on the EARTH
c. The men of SODOM wanted to rape and have sex with the angels who were in the form of men.
d. Jude's application of STRANGE FLESH IS APPLIED UNTO THE MEN OF SODOM going after strange flesh which indicates something other than human flesh
e. Which is more fanciful....a saved man having sex with a lost woman producing races of Giants or fallen angels in the form of men having sex with the daughters of Adam and producing races of Giants.....
If the former is the case then giants should be all over the earth right now as we speak....men of war 12 feet plus tall and some as tall as the cedars.....
Just points to ponder!
a. There is a heavenly, celestial form and a fallen, earthly form....
b. Angels traditionally took a form SIMILAR TO MAN AND ARE ALL MASCULINE when on the EARTH
c. The men of SODOM wanted to rape and have sex with the angels who were in the form of men.
d. Jude's application of STRANGE FLESH IS APPLIED UNTO THE MEN OF SODOM going after strange flesh which indicates something other than human flesh
e. Which is more fanciful....a saved man having sex with a lost woman producing races of Giants or fallen angels in the form of men having sex with the daughters of Adam and producing races of Giants.....
If the former is the case then giants should be all over the earth right now as we speak....men of war 12 feet plus tall and some as tall as the cedars.....
Just points to ponder!
J
most mainstream Christians today dont accept Enoch as scripture. some groups might but most of the groups today do not. its interesting when looking at the different groups in the days of Jesus and the 12. the pharisees, the ones Jesus and John call sons of the devil, they did not accept Enoch. the Essenes of Qumran, who had theology that closely mirrored Jesus, and who John and James were most likely part of, they accepted Enoch as scripture.
Hello JohnTalmid,
I totally agree with you. I have my own copy of Ethiopic Enoch and it sheds much light on what Genesis 6:1-4 barely touches on, including the corruption caused by the angels, the sons of heaven and why the flood took place. It also mentions Noah and the flood itself. The prophesies of Enoch was itself apart of the scriptures up to the 3rd century. Those who dismiss it as not being God-breathed miss out on a lot of detailed information regarding the events related to the angels, the sons of God who took for themselves wives.
I totally agree with you. I have my own copy of Ethiopic Enoch and it sheds much light on what Genesis 6:1-4 barely touches on, including the corruption caused by the angels, the sons of heaven and why the flood took place. It also mentions Noah and the flood itself. The prophesies of Enoch was itself apart of the scriptures up to the 3rd century. Those who dismiss it as not being God-breathed miss out on a lot of detailed information regarding the events related to the angels, the sons of God who took for themselves wives.
I'm not going on about anything..I just made an observation about how we Christians in general will not acknowledge many things that are right in front of our noses..We love to keep our heads buried in the sand..as in...."Ignore it! It'll go away."
Real, honest to goodness giants exist today. By the thousands..The US marines killed one in Afghanistan in 2002. It had killed one of the men. In the Solomon islands during WW2 Japanese and American soldiers both, got eaten by giants...I know, "Its not true because the government denies it" On Gaudalcanal there is a city full of giants who stand around 20 feet tall..Actually two types of giants..But all of this is only conspiracy theory. So designated by the Ostrich People.
Real, honest to goodness giants exist today. By the thousands..The US marines killed one in Afghanistan in 2002. It had killed one of the men. In the Solomon islands during WW2 Japanese and American soldiers both, got eaten by giants...I know, "Its not true because the government denies it" On Gaudalcanal there is a city full of giants who stand around 20 feet tall..Actually two types of giants..But all of this is only conspiracy theory. So designated by the Ostrich People.
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Yes it is that no one will take the contextual challenge, because it can not be done. I notice none of you guys that talk book of enoch and the such. Will not go from Genesis 4:11-6:1 explain how they are. Then show from that context how Genesis 6:2, 4 are fallen angels in that context. It's not a trick question, it's simple hermeneutics.