IM SO TIRED OF CALVINISTS TALKING ABOUT THE POTTER'S FREEDOM!
LOOK IT UP FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT! What Paul is referring to, it has nothing to do with this grace lottery system... its the opposite! [not to mention, often times when it speaks of Jacob and Esau its referring to the NATIONS, look it up in genesis]
Gospel in reverse, election in reverse, everything is in reverse this is MADNESS! You can only reach this level of numbness by attending a reformed theological seminary of some sort, which is why all these talking heads repeat the same platitudes. YET: A simple reading of scripture by ANYONE who is unpolluted by the reversegospel will produce a completely different mindset.
If God tells people to repent and they cannot repent unless God grants it, then God is only being mad at Himself. Not to mention the devil is unemployed in calvinism.
Jeremiah 18:6-10 (And it continues on in verse11...)
[FONT="]6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the Lord. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.[/FONT]
[FONT="]7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;[/FONT]
[FONT="]10 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
Terms to look out for: "Sovereign Grace" "Potter's freedom" these two are the most popular buzzwords.
The more ive read about calvinism the worse it gets...[/FONT]