My studies on revelation 12

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Blain

The Word Weaver
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I am putting this in the conspiracy section because it is not absolute and is merely the findings of my studying revelation 12 and the event of September 23rd.
This merely my studies on the scripture itself not any videos or rumors or tellings


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The Woman and the Dragon

12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.


First Pay attention to the word sign, the word sign is a word that points or warns of or declares it can also mean an omen or to testify but notice also that the scripture begins with a Great sign appeared in heaven so this sign is not an ordinary sign.

The word heaven is also to be noted as it does not always mean the actual heaven that God resides in, Heaven can mean something different depending on how it is used like describing something such as this spa bath is absolute heaven, or saying for instance this carrot cake is heavenly but in this case for this particular topic it likely means the sky. Also note that right after it says a great sign appeared in heaven there is a colon and a colon is sued to list something or to be used to explain something. While most may not consider the importance of this fact I believe it is very important and a small piece of vital info most would miss in understanding the scripture.

Now after verse two notice the colon again as it begins by saying Then another sign appeared in heaven almost as if this event of the red dragon happens in a later a time or simply after the virgin gives birth in the night sky or perhaps it is in the same time frame I do not know what to think of this in terms of fact.

Then it continues to describe the dragon having seven heads ten horns and seven crowns I thought possibly it could have meant the star constellation known as Draco however as far as I know Draco has no such numbers of heads or horns or any crown of sorts number wise at least.But what intrigues me is how it says that it's tail swept a third of the stars from the sky and sent them crashing to earth. Now stars do not always mean actual balls of hot gas it can also represent people or a story written in the sky some consider stars to mean angels as well but it also can be used to describe meteors.

Lets say for now that it does in fact mean meteors crashing to earth, a third of the stars in the sky would be enough to destroy a trillion earths easily leaving not even a piece of earth left so I think we can assume it does mean from the sky alone it seems to imply a specific set of stars or meteors in this case. in which case we can expect a massive down pour of giant fire balls that would be absolutely devastating but this is of course only speculation at this point.

It then goes on to describe the dragon ready to devour the unborn child, Now this part I think can get a bit tricky because depending on how you look at it it could simply be speaking only of the Jesus and Mary and how satan attempted to thwart him in the gospels however it also can be more symbolic than that. The moon will in fact go through the virgin Constellation as if she was giving birth to it so perhaps the dragon that will devour it will be a star constellation that will appear r maybe not I am not entirely sure on this part.

However when it speaks of her giving birth to a male child notice the quotations of when it says he will rule all nations with an iron scepter and then he will be snatch up to heaven to God and his throne. This part here both interests me and confuses me, Jesus was in a way snatched up to heaven and to god's throne but he never ruled all the nations with an iron scepter even if it was symbolic for a future event of when he rules there is still the fact that a war in heaven breaks out after this which would imply that it doesn't add up like that.
 
This part here both interests me and confuses me, Jesus was in a way snatched up to heaven and to god's throne but he never ruled all the nations with an iron scepter

isaiah 11:1-4 "
And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;3And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:4But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


the iron sceptor is the Word of Jesus
 
Now This is going to get a bit touchy but for the sake of the study please do not begin to argue about it and please respect the fact that this thread is my thread and is meant for understanding and learning not arguing.
I began to wonder what if the women doesn't represent what it appears?

It speaks of her fleeing to the wilderness where God takes care of her for 1260 days, if you do the math 1260 days is three and a half years so I wondered to myself what if the women is actually the church and the moon she gives birth to is Christians and the dragon is satan wanting to destroy in the great tribulation? What then if the women fleeing to the wilderness is symbolic for the rapture of the church?

Again this is not fact it is merely something that popped in my head and is a possibility. Sadly this was as far as I could go today because of all the chaos in the house, I never really even got to go into any kind of in depths research and so only had time to start with the scripture and what i got from it but I will go into a lot more in depth stuff once things are more open and peaceful at the house which shouldn't take very long
 
This part here both interests me and confuses me, Jesus was in a way snatched up to heaven and to god's throne but he never ruled all the nations with an iron scepter

isaiah 11:1-4 "
And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:2And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;3And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:4But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.


the iron sceptor is the Word of Jesus

heres a little better example from prophecy

psalm 2:7-9 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."
 
Now This is going to get a bit touchy but for the sake of the study please do not begin to argue about it and please respect the fact that this thread is my thread and is meant for understanding and learning not arguing.
I began to wonder what if the women doesn't represent what it appears?

It speaks of her fleeing to the wilderness where God takes care of her for 1260 days, if you do the math 1260 days is three and a half years so I wondered to myself what if the women is actually the church and the moon she gives birth to is Christians and the dragon is satan wanting to destroy in the great tribulation? What then if the women fleeing to the wilderness is symbolic for the rapture of the church?

Again this is not fact it is merely something that popped in my head and is a possibility. Sadly this was as far as I could go today because of all the chaos in the house, I never really even got to go into any kind of in depths research and so only had time to start with the scripture and what i got from it but I will go into a lot more in depth stuff once things are more open and peaceful at the house which shouldn't take very long

bro i wasnt arguing at all you said that part confused and interested you, sorry to offend, God bless
 
bro i wasnt arguing at all you said that part confused and interested you, sorry to offend, God bless

No you misunderstand it took me a bit to write that last part and you had apparently already posted that while I was working on the second post. I was speaking of people who see the pretribe rapture as a lie as I know how much people love to argue about it and I cannot have that in this thread
 
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As on earth, so it is in heaven: when the Antichrist enters the Temple, Venus appears to enter the Sun. The Morningstar (Lucifer/Antichrist=Venus) enters the Temple (goes directly behind the Sun/altar of fire in the Temple.) As the Sun also represents Christ, and Venus is on the opposite (anti-) side we have our astronomical Anti-christ in the right position. This is a rare event that happens on just 9 days every 105 years… And even the date fits activity for the Antichrist – the sixth day of the sixth month of a year ending in six – the only 6-6-6 date during the entire tribulation.


The odds of Venus going behind the sun on any given day are about 9/(105*365.25) – about 1 in 4261 odds. It only happens on a 6-6-6 date one day out of every 15,563,302 days. That means on average it would not happen again like this for about 42,611 years. It is a VERY rare sign.

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No you misunderstand it took me a bit to write that last part and you had apparently already posted that while I was working on the second post. I was speaking of people who see the pretribe rapture as a lie as I know how much people love to argue about it and I cannot have that in this thread

i sure did, my bad lol i actually thought fourth angel was your reply, your pics are similar, i just didnt want to offend anyone :) God bless you bro !!
 
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As on earth, so it is in heaven: when the Antichrist enters the Temple, Venus appears to enter the Sun. The Morningstar (Lucifer/Antichrist=Venus) enters the Temple (goes directly behind the Sun/altar of fire in the Temple.) As the Sun also represents Christ, and Venus is on the opposite (anti-) side we have our astronomical Anti-christ in the right position. This is a rare event that happens on just 9 days every 105 years… And even the date fits activity for the Antichrist – the sixth day of the sixth month of a year ending in six – the only 6-6-6 date during the entire tribulation.


The odds of Venus going behind the sun on any given day are about 9/(105*365.25) – about 1 in 4261 odds. It only happens on a 6-6-6 date one day out of every 15,563,302 days. That means on average it would not happen again like this for about 42,611 years. It is a VERY rare sign.

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? You say the antichrist is entering the temple? Who is the antichrist and how do you know that venus will be behind the sun when he enters the temple?
 
So today I am going to be doing a lot more indepth studies and may not be posting for a bit about my findings until I am sure they are solid to actually be posted
 
? You say the antichrist is entering the temple? Who is the antichrist and how do you know that venus will be behind the sun when he enters the temple?

I wanted you to see that "rare celestial" once in 10 millennium events happen all the time and there will always be a Christian Conspiracy theorist there to tell why "The End is Nigh" because of it.

The story of the Antichrist, tribulation, end times, rapture, and wrath is a very complex and detailed story, and the stars and planetary bodies are also complex and detailed. So anyone can draw conclusions about anything relating one to another and it's going to sound symbolic if they have an active enough imagination.

I posted a date that has already passed and nothing happened, along with the aftershave Home Alone picture to mock you and show you that what you posted is generic and meaningless, but you are so receptive to this kind of information you took it seriously!
 
? You say the antichrist is entering the temple? Who is the antichrist and how do you know that venus will be behind the sun when he enters the temple?

The antichrist on 6/6/2016 was "prophesied" to be Obama, and instead of enjoying Mexico I sat in the resort all day on CNN.com waiting for something to happen as I watched Obama celebrate a super bowl victory with the Denver Broncos.

There was a white bronco positioned near obama though symbolic of the Antichrist's stead..........

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44? 33 + 11 = 44!!!!!! 33 degree Freemasons + 9/11 = 44!?!?!?!??!?!

oh, or it's because he was the 44rd president.


So today I am going to be doing a lot more in-depth studies and may not be posting for a bit about my findings until I am sure they are solid to actually be posted

If your study is truly in-depth you won't be posting anything else because none of it is solid. Study Flat Earth Theory instead!:p
 
I wanted you to see that "rare celestial" once in 10 millennium events happen all the time and there will always be a Christian Conspiracy theorist there to tell why "The End is Nigh" because of it.

The story of the Antichrist, tribulation, end times, rapture, and wrath is a very complex and detailed story, and the stars and planetary bodies are also complex and detailed. So anyone can draw conclusions about anything relating one to another and it's going to sound symbolic if they have an active enough imagination.

I posted a date that has already passed and nothing happened, along with the aftershave Home Alone picture to mock you and show you that what you posted is generic and meaningless, but you are so receptive to this kind of information you took it seriously!
Oh I am aware that people cherry pick and give into their own imaginations but from the perspective your looking through the same could be said about any kind of scripture one might study in the bible in which all you have is a whole lot of skepticism in every verse and that is something that can maybe keep you from falling into certain false views but also will blind you to certain truths of God.

It is good to have discernment, having a balance of skepticism and also open mindness if you have to much of either it gets dangerous regardless which way you waver I have seen people give in to to skepticism so much that they refuse to accept anything as truth anymore and mock those who present the truth and I have also seen those who are far to open minded and accept bizarre things as truth and accept pretty much anything with an open mind without having discernment of any kind.

satan uses both types of people but those who have a balance of them have both discernment and and open heart.
You can mock me if you wish although we are not called to mock but to love and to be love, however God also says this Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.
The bible is like the earths crust or an onion it has many many layers and has the truth hidden within the truth hidden also within that truth, not just anyone can simply be given insight into the deeper layers often times we must seek the truth for ourselves.

So you can write this off as nothing and can mock me for seeking the truth of the matter but I would consider what the scriptures say about it first
 
The antichrist on 6/6/2016 was "prophesied" to be Obama, and instead of enjoying Mexico I sat in the resort all day on CNN.com waiting for something to happen as I watched Obama celebrate a super bowl victory with the Denver Broncos.

There was a white bronco positioned near obama though symbolic of the Antichrist's stead..........

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44? 33 + 11 = 44!!!!!! 33 degree Freemasons + 9/11 = 44!?!?!?!??!?!

oh, or it's because he was the 44rd president.




If your study is truly in-depth you won't be posting anything else because none of it is solid. Study Flat Earth Theory instead!:p
Do not listen to prophesies made by man. there is not solid scriptural evidence that this was to happen and watching the news for something to happen is pointless, do you really think they would allow something like that to be seen on the news?
 
Do not listen to prophesies made by man. there is not solid scriptural evidence that this was to happen and watching the news for something to happen is pointless, do you really think they would allow something like that to be seen on the news?

What exactly do you think you are doing with your "research"?

And once again you are so gullible and receptive to this information you took my post seriously again. I was telling you that 1 year ago I was just like you trying to figure out the future by looking at the stars.

The nuts I listened to had scripture to support Obama as antichrist as well as for the 6/6/2016 event.
 
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What exactly do you think you are doing with your "research"?

And once again you are so gullible and receptive to this information you took my post seriously again. I was telling you that 1 year ago I was just like you trying to figure out the future by looking at the stars.

The nuts I listened to had scripture to support Obama as antichrist as well as for the 6/6/2016 event.
What I do with my research is not of importance but you wrote what you did in a way that it appeared to be something you actually did, you cannot expect people to always know your sarcasm in a forum where there is no voice and tone.
 
What I do with my research is not of importance but you wrote what you did in a way that it appeared to be something you actually did, you cannot expect people to always know your sarcasm in a forum where there is no voice and tone.

Everything is dated from 2016!