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ForthAngel

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Oh, but they make frequent trips to heaven, so, it's all good. :rolleyes:
Funny all their descriptions are different. Even the same person will describe it differently from time to time when speaking of the same event. They LOVE to tell everyone about it too, and don't forget the book sales. Poor ol' Paul wouldn't even refer to himself in the first person his experience was so profound. Think we already know his authority isn't legit though because he was a faithless dog.
 
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You cannot serve God and mammon.

Think again.

See what Scripture says in warning about those who seek to be rich? About those who are covetous while claiming to be Christian?

Goodness sake, God isn't a bellhop, godliness isn't gain, and covetousness is idolatry, therefore that gospel is a lie and is false.

More and more are hoodwinked by the false WoF gospel. But no wonder, it offers what the world offers, so carnal offers are attractive to those whose nutriments are drawn from carnal means.
 

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Bingo!!! Concerning Jabez, God granted >>>> his <<<< request. Our requests for this do not retro back to this verse as if when we ask "in mustered up faith" then God somehow owes us something because "we believed with all our hearts." Any person who sees this as "Gospel" is a covetous idolater, thinks gain = godliness, and according to Scripture are to be shunned.

(ever notice this "mustered up faith" nonsense is like the false prophets of Baal trying to call down fire? I have.)

These who preach this false gospel are perpetually trying to come dressed in sheep's garb with their false teaching of biblical faith and false gospel. The sheep won't be hoodwinked forever by that false gospel, and many never at all - and that thought needs to be deeply considered.


Well, you just continue the way you are going and I'll continue the way I'm going. I'm happy joyful and blessed and your a crabby old guy who talks constantly of sinning and being cursed.
If you are saved we will both meet in heaven but I'll be much more joyful on my way there than you are.
 

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Well, you just continue the way you are going and I'll continue the way I'm going. I'm happy joyful and blessed and your a crabby old guy who talks constantly of sinning and being cursed.
If you are saved we will both meet in heaven but I'll be much more joyful on my way there than you are.
You post Joseph Prince constantly. It may be a good idea for you to examine your own beliefs against scripture and not single verses used to build false doctrine on. Could be your judgment is already upon you.
 
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Well, you just continue the way you are going and I'll continue the way I'm going. I'm happy joyful and blessed and your a crabby old guy who talks constantly of sinning and being cursed.
If you are saved we will both meet in heaven but I'll be much more joyful on my way there than you are.
Oh, some slander, eh? And I'm old and crabby? Looks like you're longer in the tooth. I'm wondering where it is I keep talking of sin and being cursed? That's right, I haven't so that would be an untrue comment on your part, which would line up with those who preach false doctrine.

By the way, I'm in utter joy, sanctified by the Word of truth, my joy is full.

Your doctrine is of covetous idolatry, and the happiness thereof is temporal just like this world. You'll find that out someday.

Your love is for the things of this world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. This is your false gospel; it is love of the world and the things therein, something Scripture calls covetousness (idolatry) which Scripture warns us about in 1 John concerning those making profession but are entangled thereby, and, showing that those deceived by it are not the "we" but are the "they" of his epistle of whom he warns us.

You are thoroughly hoodwinked and are in a snare. I pray God brings you out of that deception.

You've been warned as a false teacher numerous times, but you can get your last word in, I don't engage with those who teach heresy after warning them.
 
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You post Joseph Prince constantly. It may be a good idea for you to examine your own beliefs against scripture and not single verses used to build false doctrine on. Could be your judgment is already upon you.

God has many false teachers to delude them and scratch their itching ears with what they want to hear. That is God's judgment on false teachers - he gives them many others to continue to lead them astray.
 
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You shouldn't be surprised. You kinda started this last one here and here and some random "I never use bible verses in context if I even use them at all" here. And then someone who almost never makes any sense jumped on that train here. I don't even have to mention Rockrz part that he played since he just likes to hop in the fray anywhere and listen to himself talk as I'm sure we are all well aware of by now.

uh huh

I'd snap my suspenders if I wore them LOL! :cool:
 

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You post Joseph Prince constantly. It may be a good idea for you to examine your own beliefs against scripture and not single verses used to build false doctrine on. Could be your judgment is already upon you.



Thankfully I know something you don't know. Jesus took ALL my judgment on the cross. He took yours too but sounds like your not living in the blessing of that truth today. There is no more judgment coming on us believers because Jesus paid it all., all to Him we owe... sin had left a crimson stain.... Heee washed it white as snowww....


Oh good ol Pastor Joseph Prince!!!! I sort of think of him like I think of President Trump and how he annoys the liberals so much and they can't stop talking about him and finding fault with him. JP gets all you guys to thinking so what he does is give some food for thought that you guys never thought of before. GOD LOVES YOU. I love to post JP devotionals .

You guys need to hear some good news because you always talk about the miseries of life., the joyless sunless days where no blessings are poured. The Christian life to you sounds like being in a poor Russian town out in Siberia with frozen water needed to be thawed all day and everyone is always cold and miserable. That is not what Jesus has for us. And so I will keep on posting when I get the chance. Some day you will find the Holy Spirit has rivers of living waters flowing and never freezing needing to be thawed. He keeps the living waters flowing as He teaches us a new and living way.
 
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Funny all their descriptions are different. Even the same person will describe it differently from time to time when speaking of the same event. They LOVE to tell everyone about it too, and don't forget the book sales. Poor ol' Paul wouldn't even refer to himself in the first person his experience was so profound. Think we already know his authority isn't legit though because he was a faithless dog.
There is something to be said of the joy in being poor in spirit, (Matthew 5:3) that inner peace and joy that comes with such a state in comparison to "the enthusiasts" (to employ the term of Jonathan Edwards description of these false teachers) whose happiness is based upon temporal earthly gifts, mammon, things of the world, material gain, and believe gain equals godliness. These will all fade and crumble to nought in a short time.
 

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Thankfully I know something you don't know. Jesus took ALL my judgment on the cross. He took yours too but sounds like your not living in the blessing of that truth today. There is no more judgment coming on us believers because Jesus paid it all., all to Him we owe... sin had left a crimson stain.... Heee washed it white as snowww....


Oh good ol Pastor Joseph Prince!!!! I sort of think of him like I think of President Trump and how he annoys the liberals so much and they can't stop talking about him and finding fault with him. JP gets all you guys to thinking so what he does is give some food for thought that you guys never thought of before. GOD LOVES YOU. I love to post JP devotionals .


You guys need to hear some good news because you always talk about the miseries of life., the joyless sunless days where no blessings are poured. The Christian life to you sounds like being in a poor Russian town out in Siberia with frozen water needed to be thawed all day and everyone is always cold and miserable. That is not what Jesus has for us. And so I will keep on posting when I get the chance. Some day you will find the Holy Spirit has rivers of living waters flowing and never freezing needing to be thawed. He keeps the living waters flowing as He teaches us a new and living way.


Here is what God says about you and your precious Prince:

2 Timothy 4
4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 2
2 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.


Enjoy your health and money.
 
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Here is what God says about you and your precious Prince:

2 Timothy 4
4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 2
2 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.


Enjoy your health and money.
Yes. Amen!

And this:

"If anyone teaches a different doctrine (and WoF is a different doctrine, follow along) and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, (they replace true godliness with covetous gain) he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing"

"He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, (we've witnessed this from one on here concerning myself, twisting words, causing dissension, slandering. See how Scripture has perfectly described these false teachers???) and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world."

"But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. (This isn't good enough for them, they are not content with God's providence because they are in fact covetous idolaters) But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. (While preaching this evil false gospel of covetous they will tell you they don't "love" money when all the while this is what their aim is; gain, money, covetousness. I can hear the "hissssss" in that deceptive nonsense because at the same time they are saying they don't love these things, they show they are deceived, and are deceiving others as well!) ...It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs."

Yep. God's judgment is upon these who have departed from the truth. They are in a deceptive snare and that is a fact. Scripture has warned us, all the sheep take heed. Find your only comfort in God, not in the things of this world, and not in the false gospel of covetous idolatry.
 
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Psalm 103:1-5 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]

Bless the LORD, O my soul, And all that is within me, bless His holy name.

[SUP]2 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget none of His benefits;


[SUP]3 [/SUP] Who pardons all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases;


[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who redeems your life from the pit, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;

[SUP]5 [/SUP] Who satisfies your years with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.
 
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Thankfully I know something you don't know. Jesus took ALL my judgment on the cross. He took yours too but sounds like your not living in the blessing of that truth today. There is no more judgment coming on us believers because Jesus paid it all., all to Him we owe... sin had left a crimson stain.... Heee washed it white as snowww....


Oh good ol Pastor Joseph Prince!!!! I sort of think of him like I think of President Trump and how he annoys the liberals so much and they can't stop talking about him and finding fault with him. JP gets all you guys to thinking so what he does is give some food for thought that you guys never thought of before. GOD LOVES YOU. I love to post JP devotionals .

You guys need to hear some good news because you always talk about the miseries of life., the joyless sunless days where no blessings are poured. The Christian life to you sounds like being in a poor Russian town out in Siberia with frozen water needed to be thawed all day and everyone is always cold and miserable. That is not what Jesus has for us. And so I will keep on posting when I get the chance. Some day you will find the Holy Spirit has rivers of living waters flowing and never freezing needing to be thawed. He keeps the living waters flowing as He teaches us a new and living way.
Just ignore them. They are so full of hate it is disgusting.
 
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Just ignore them. They are so full of hate it is disgusting.
I agree...sometimes it is just best to ignore some types as no good comes from interacting with some behaviors.

I believe in giving out what we believe and leave it in the hands of the Holy Spirit. The Lord will be faithful to us all to reveal the things of God and what our Lord has done for us.

People are free to believe in healing or not believe. People are free to believe in tongues or not believe. People are free to believe that God has blessed us "so that" we can be a blessing to others.

We are allowed to agree to disagree on some areas and we can do this without the insults and de-meaning and condescending words to each other. If this behavior continues - then this will not create any sort of life but instead create this below.

Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
 
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Why do folks assume that those who disagree are full of hate? That is ridiculous, I don't hate anyone, I just want folks to have a choice and to understand where God stands on issues. Back to the subject, years back I kept having Joyce meyer on my mind, she preached much of the true gospel, but I could not get around the twenty million dollar jet plane, also she said that God gave her the plane. How can you say a expensive plane is wrong if God gave it to her? Then while sitting in church God gave me kind of a vision, first He said, I did not give her that plane, she gave herself that plane. As I was looking I saw her reach into an offering plate, take out the money, and then buy herself a twenty million dollar plane. Folks, what if I taught the gospel better then Joyce Meyer, but I then told people to give until it hurt, and then took money from those people and bought myself a twenty million dollar jet plane? Am I justified in using collection money to buy myself a jet plane because I presented the true gospel to them? I think not, I would be violating the very gospel I preach by using other people to achieve things of this world for myself. Why cannot people see this, these folks who use the gospel and people to acquire expensive material things of this world for themselves, CANNOT BE TRUE SERVANTS OF GOD, it should be obvious to those who study the bible.
 
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Originally Posted by ForthAngel

Here is what God says about you and your precious Prince:

2 Timothy 4
4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 2
2 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.


Enjoy your health and money.


Yes. Amen!

And this:

"If anyone teaches a different doctrine (and WoF is a different doctrine, follow along) and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, (they replace true godliness with covetous gain) he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing"

"He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, (we've witnessed this from one on here concerning myself, twisting words, causing dissension, slandering. See how Scripture has perfectly described these false teachers???) and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world."

"But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. (This isn't good enough for them, they are not content with God's providence because they are in fact covetous idolaters) But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. (While preaching this evil false gospel of covetous they will tell you they don't "love" money when all the while this is what their aim is; gain, money, covetousness. I can hear the "hissssss" in that deceptive nonsense because at the same time they are saying they don't love these things, they show they are deceived, and are deceiving others as well!) ...It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs."

Yep. God's judgment is upon these who have departed from the truth. They are in a deceptive snare and that is a fact. Scripture has warned us, all the sheep take heed. Find your only comfort in God, not in the things of this world, and not in the false gospel of covetous idolatry.
Health = bad ??

Money = bad??

Are joy,peace,and faith bad also ?? (unfortunately prince preaches those as well)

He does not preach sad,darkness,condemnation,and legalism.

Those must be really good things huh?
 
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Oh,BTW,any of you "right on super correct doctrinally pure types" that have any of that evil money in your accounts,I have good news!!

I can receive that pesky evil hindrance in my account if you will PM me and arrange a transfer.

I have been a "money clearing" ministry for years. Religious types with "money torment syndrome" ,(mts), should just lay that burden on me.
 
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One man aboard a passenger ship standing in line waiting to disembark,said "I suffered locked in my cabin just eating cheese,crackers and water theses 2.5 weeks we were out at sea. HA! think of all the money I saved on the resturant bills you guys had to pay!!!

The entire crowd laughed hilariously.

One passenger let him in on the joke he told on himself.

" My dear misguided man. The wonderful buffet was included in the price of your ticket!!!"
 
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popeye

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Too bad those crabby cheese and cracker, right on types, muddy up their own ride.
 
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CeileDe

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Why do folks assume that those who disagree are full of hate? That is ridiculous, I don't hate anyone, I just want folks to have a choice and to understand where God stands on issues. Back to the subject, years back I kept having Joyce meyer on my mind, she preached much of the true gospel, but I could not get around the twenty million dollar jet plane, also she said that God gave her the plane. How can you say a expensive plane is wrong if God gave it to her? Then while sitting in church God gave me kind of a vision, first He said, I did not give her that plane, she gave herself that plane. As I was looking I saw her reach into an offering plate, take out the money, and then buy herself a twenty million dollar plane. Folks, what if I taught the gospel better then Joyce Meyer, but I then told people to give until it hurt, and then took money from those people and bought myself a twenty million dollar jet plane? Am I justified in using collection money to buy myself a jet plane because I presented the true gospel to them? I think not, I would be violating the very gospel I preach by using other people to achieve things of this world for myself. Why cannot people see this, these folks who use the gospel and people to acquire expensive material things of this world for themselves, CANNOT BE TRUE SERVANTS OF GOD, it should be obvious to those who study the bible.
Maybe because of the way some are presenting their case. They don't do it out of love but out of self gratification. It is all a few on this forum can talk about.