Is Mary a intercessor?

[AllenW]

Yeah, and had she decided to not obey the Lord... He would have gotten Becky Sue from down the street!

And today all the catholiks would sounds like a bunch of rednecks..."oh holy Becky Sue, wup de doo we worship you Becky Sue"

God always has other options because sometimes people don't obey, so there were other women that could have done this.



I was insulting the ketchupism er whatever it's called... it's false and is of no value to followers of Jesus Christ.





And so, you are saying it's OK to contact the dead???

Yeah, that'll get some action in your life from some demons... just like throwing blood in the ocean brings forth sharks!






Judging by the mis-information you've posted in this thread... I'll pass!

Thanks for thinking of me tho, it's so touching to know you care enough to offer to tell me about false teachings catholkics believe in.
With friends like that, who needs enemies???

I could never be your enemy.
You have the mind of an uncontrolled child and hopefully someday someone will reach you.

One thing you are doing wrong that is not right.
And most people on this forum see it.
You pull one sentence out of a paragraph and comment on it, leaving the rest that was said unknown to the viewer.
I'm sure you yourself know that you contradict yourself many times when you do this.
But you obviously have a need to somehow impress people.

Guess what?
You are prideful and you care for no one but yourself.
And I can prove it.
So go ahead and challenge me so I can do it.
(I would never do such a thing without your approval.)

 

[Magenta]

LOL My friend....So many people cannot spell anymore...I used to be offended by it, and tried to encourage them to learn...Now I just shake my head and laugh too...It's still true though, spelling is important, because, even if the person doesn't care about it, it still says a lot about them, about intelligence or at the very least, education.

Good morning, Denadii I don't think it is so much a spelling error as it is a deliberate poke: putting the word lick in there makes me think of boot lickers, which would seem to be an indication of their papal idolatry, and then the same word was also presented as cathloholics, again an indication of their idolatry through addiction to their false dogmas/teachings, perhaps especially concerning Mary...

As to the topic, Jesus said a number of things to dissuade
anyone from thinking more highly of Mary above anyone else.
Since He did not elevate her, neither should we.

 

[Rockrz]

I am sure just like every denomination...

They are not just another denomination since their teachings in now way even attempt to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles.

Jesus never told anybody to "pray to my momma and she'll put in a good word for you"

John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber

I've read some views on this that seems to imply Jesus and God are one now and the only way to get prayers answered is through Mary or the saints.

Nah, that's just a lie the devil started to get people to engage in idolotry so they would go to hell

Revelation 21:8
the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

It ain't gonna be nuthin nice... or, we could always play like Jesus doesn't really mean this and all religions lead to the same God and all will be saved.

This is what many Christians are starting to believe as they fall away from the faith and start following doctrines of demons and will be lost is they do not repent and forsake their false beliefs...

 

[Rockrz]

You are prideful and you care for no one but yourself.

Yeah, satan always gets his people to attack anyone who puts the focus on scripture... you know, the things God has said.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God

Your erroneous opinion is garbage, and sure you have the right to blubber all the error you so desire... but, it's quite comical that you attack those you disagree with on a personal level.

.... like water off a ducks back.... I have the Lord's self control to ignore and laugh at all false claims spoken by the devil.

Romans 3:3,4
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

So keep advocating for false teaching and in the end we'll see who ends up where...

 

[Denadii]

Lets just agree that Mary was just a common Woman like the rest of our treasures and she is not, was not, and will not be, our intercessor? Then drop the silly subject? If the boy wanted to know if Mary is our intercessor, all he had to do was read his bible.

 

[Rockrz]

If the boy wanted to know if Mary is our intercessor, all he had to do was read his bible.

Exactly, and what is so incredible (without credibility) about the catholicks is that they all claim to believe in and honor God's Word in the Bible.

And yet, they pick a few verses out that they claim gives their pope dude guy the authority to add to and/or take away from what God says!

I have family members that do the cathloholic thing and I tell them they will be in trouble when they croak but they are convinced they are right in adhering to this false doctrine... it ain't gonna be nuthin nice for those that do not accept God's Word.

This is so simple... people have to have help to misunderstand it, which the devil is very glad to assist in helping people misunderstand God's Word in favor of going with something other than what God said.

 

[Denadii]

Exactly, and what is so incredible (without credibility) about the catholicks is that they all claim to believe in and honor God's Word in the Bible.

And yet, they pick a few verses out that they claim gives their pope dude guy the authority to add to and/or take away from what God says!

I have family members that do the cathloholic thing and I tell them they will be in trouble when they croak but they are convinced they are right in adhering to this false doctrine... it ain't gonna be nuthin nice for those that do not accept God's Word.

This is so simple... people have to have help to misunderstand it, which the devil is very glad to assist in helping people misunderstand God's Word in favor of going with something other than what God said.

Well the Cathloholics (ok ok Catholics) are very deceived by this diabolic religion...They are blinded by it.

 

[Rockrz]

And, they always like to tell ya that they were the first and original church!

I like to remind them that Peter could not have been their first pope dude guy cause... he was married!

They usually say they'll need to go talk to their priest 'bout that

 

[Magenta]

Well the Cathloholics (ok ok Catholics) are very deceived by this diabolic religion...They are blinded by it.

Yes, they are blinded by it, led astray by it, loyal to a fault to it, and will defend their heresies to death, it seems. Trying to speak Truth to someone bent on defending something else is all but impossible. They cannot accept the Solas.

 

[Denadii]

And, they always like to tell ya that they were the first and original church!

I like to remind them that Peter could not have been their first pope dude guy cause... he was married!

They usually say they'll need to go talk to their priest 'bout that

LOL I remember that argument from when I was a kid. I didn't say that I have to ask the priest.....I just hit him.

 

[BeyondET]

IMO, when Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, this a key to understanding why Mary is like anyone, concerned for the wedding to have plenty of wine and everyone to be joyful and speak highly of the wedding is the point, it's of a Worldly view to be concern of such things like wine, wine is wine it's not something that is needed. I find it hard to believe that was charity or helping folks in need, in need of what a stronger buzz it doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[1ofthem]

They are not just another denomination since their teachings in now way even attempt to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles.

Jesus never told anybody to "pray to my momma and she'll put in a good word for you"

John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber






Nah, that's just a lie the devil started to get people to engage in idolotry so they would go to hell

Revelation 21:8
the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

It ain't gonna be nuthin nice... or, we could always play like Jesus doesn't really mean this and all religions lead to the same God and all will be saved.

This is what many Christians are starting to believe as they fall away from the faith and start following doctrines of demons and will be lost is they do not repent and forsake their false beliefs...

Yeah, I get what you’re saying and agree with it…but what I’m saying is that I am truly concerned for them and would like to see God reach them….cause I don’t think every Catholic is a demon and surely the Catholic Church is not just a big bunch of demons gathered together following false scripture just for the heck of it.

I mean some of them really have to think they are doing what God wants them to do, and I’m sure that most of them are hoping to make it to heaven. They are just misled, but surely there has to be some way to reach them. That’s why we need to pray for them and not just call them names and totally write them off.

We need to know how to answer every man in the way that God wants us to. So that is why it is good to try and understand their beliefs and what scriptures they are using to try and back their beliefs….so that we can know exactly how to show them the truth of the scriptures.

 

[BeyondET]

To know exactly who the wedding was for and or why Jesus and his family and disciples were invited isn't written in the bible. It's going to take a kind of leap of faith to understand it, though I mentioned in another thread about this and how I view scripture and who was the person who was getting married. IMO it was Joanna daughter of Mary, why do I think this well because of three things in scripture that's makes logical sense to me.

1. At the tomb of Jesus his family would of been there no doubt in my mind, his disciples who followed him along with some others but I don't think there was a bunch of people standing around but just the people who were close to him. Joanna is mentioned at the tomb,

2. at the wedding in Cana, Mary doesn't react like a average guest to a wedding invited too, she is concern with the festivities today we call them the wedding reception. why does she react like that, because it was her daughter's wedding. Jesus made more wine, more than enough for 12 weddings, why because it was his sister's wedding.

3. Herod knew a lot about Jesus more so than Palite or any other Roman official, why because Joanna was married to Chuza and Chuza was Herod manager makes sense to me that Herod talked with Chuza quite often and Chuza spoke about Jesus and the miracles Jesus performed. For Herod himself wanted to see a miracle.

 

[1ofthem]

IMO, when Mary ask Jesus to make more wine, this a key to understanding why Mary is like anyone, concerned for the wedding to have plenty of wine and everyone to be joyful and speak highly of the wedding is the point, it's of a Worldly view to be concern of such things like wine, wine is wine it's not something that is needed. I find it hard to believe that was charity or helping folks in need, in need of what a stronger buzz it doesn't make any sense to me.

Good point and that is why it is good to know what scriptures they use to back things up with....We are to set our affections on things above not things of this earth...Running out of wine was just a worldly care. I'm sure no one was in any danger or going to die because they ran out of wine....

 

[Denadii]

To know exactly who the wedding was for and or why Jesus and his family and disciples were invited isn't written in the bible. It's going to take a kind of leap of faith to understand it, though I mentioned in another thread about this and how I view scripture and who was the person who was getting married. IMO it was Joanna daughter of Mary, why do I think this well because of three things in scripture that's makes logical sense to me.

1. At the tomb of Jesus his family would of been there no doubt in my mind, his disciples who followed him along with some others but I don't think there was a bunch of people standing around but just the people who were close to him. Joanna is mentioned at the tomb,

2. at the wedding in Cana, Mary doesn't react like a average guest to a wedding invited too, she is concern with the festivities today we call them the wedding reception. why does she react like that, because it was her daughter's wedding. Jesus made more wine, more than enough for 12 weddings, why because it was his sister's wedding.

3. Herod knew a lot about Jesus more so than Palite or any other Roman official, why because Joanna was married to Chuza and Chuza was Herod manager makes sense to me that Herod talked with Chuza quite often and Chuza spoke about Jesus and the miracles Jesus performed. For Herod himself wanted to see a miracle.

i will offer no critique here...I will say though, that these are your opinions though and just that...You are thinking about it and drawing conclusions....in an unimportant area...What counts here is that Mary saw a need, knew of a quick solution and asked Jesus to do the groom a favor. Jesus did it for his mother to honor her first, to help out second. That's my opinion.
I am wondering though, where are you coming up with all these ... um...facts?

 

[Rockrz]

I am truly concerned for them and would like to see God reach them….

We're all concerned for the lost and want to see them get saved... but many of those behind the religious curtain will never come out because they believe they are already doing the will of god.

It's even harder to get some of the Jews saved than it is cathilicks!

I've gone round and round with a few Jews and they are much better at defending their position that catholicks are in that they know Gods Word well most of them... but they reject Jesus as the Messiah so consequently they reject the New Testament and won't hear anything from it.

Sometimes it's better for an ex-catholick to minister to catholicks and an Messianic Jew to minister to Jews...

 

[Rockrz]

Jesus did it for his mother to honor her first

That in no way means we are to pray to Mary or to consider Mary to be co-redeemer as the catholicks believe.

Of course Jesus honored both of His parents... that is what is right before God, so that's what He did.

 

[BeyondET]

i will offer no critique here...I will say though, that these are your opinions though and just that...You are thinking about it and drawing conclusions....in an unimportant area...What counts here is that Mary saw a need, knew of a quick solution and asked Jesus to do the groom a favor. Jesus did it for his mother to honor her first, to help out second. That's my opinion.
I am wondering though, where are you coming up with all these ... um...facts?

It may seem unimportant, but to have a dialog with a Catholic this road needs to be crossed, for that huge doctrine and its foundation is based around the reception.

I make no quarrel about that being my opinion but nonetheless I stand by my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

People may not care about knowing Jesus sister's names but I do, and knowing this IMO can help people who are bowing to a statue or prayers to the dead. And maybe this is what the enemy wants for people to do, to just look on by there's nothing to see at the wedding but of helping a need.

 

[1ofthem]

We're all concerned for the lost and want to see them get saved... but many of those behind the religious curtain will never come out because they believe they are already doing the will of god.

It's even harder to get some of the Jews saved than it is cathilicks!

I've gone round and round with a few Jews and they are much better at defending their position that catholicks are in that they know Gods Word well most of them... but they reject Jesus as the Messiah so consequently they reject the New Testament and won't hear anything from it.

Sometimes it's better for an ex-catholick to minister to catholicks and an Messianic Jew to minister to Jews...

Yeah I agree with you on that. Sometimes it is best to hear from someone who has been delivered from the same situation you are in . And that goes for a lot of situations...and ex drug addict can relate better to a drug addict than I can because they have been there before.... so the same goes for ex Catholics etc.

 

[Denadii]

It may seem unimportant, but to have a dialog with a Catholic this road needs to be crossed, for that huge doctrine and its foundation is based around the reception.

I make no quarrel about that being my opinion but nonetheless I stand by my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

People may not care about knowing Jesus sister's names but I do, and knowing this IMO can help people who are bowing to a statue or prayers to the dead. And maybe this is what the enemy wants for people to do, to just look on by there's nothing to see at the wedding but of helping a need.

What do the names of Jesus' sisters have to do with your salvation or anybody elses...Teach me