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No, it is a very valid question to one who pushes and espouses a lying, sinless perfectionist dogma and a working for salvation.....he has still failed to answer.....
Let us try again.....SPONGEBOB....Do you 100% of the time, 24/7/365 days of the year keep every commandment of God while not sinning....YES OR NO.......????
Let us try again.....SPONGEBOB....Do you 100% of the time, 24/7/365 days of the year keep every commandment of God while not sinning....YES OR NO.......????
Paul had blood on his hands,but never killed anyone,and he never admitted it .. he was the leader of the persecutions. He had Roman soldiers with him to either arrest, or kill them..the soldiers were with him when Jesus knocked him from his horse and blinded him,because they heard the voice,but saw no one. those that were arrested was later killed by the Roman Government.
So I think I understand the accusation. If I hold to sinless perfection, I am lying.
And I do not hold to sinless perfection, I hold to the ability to walk righteously, with the ability
to sin, but it is your choice in response to sin. And if you do stumble, you can repent, confess
and get right with God and walk on. I would call this walking in Holiness and purity.
I would like to bring you to look at 2 John 1:8-11
Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Now what is John so definitive about that you can fall away from and become a wicked work.
I ask that we love one another.
And this is love: that
we walk in obedience to his commands.
2 John 1:5-6
Now I am commanded to firstly, love which means walk in obedience to the commands
of Christ, and secondly to have nothing to do with those who do not bring this teaching.
John is saying such people are doing a wicked work.
Worse still he says they are.
Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist
1 John 2:7
So this should be a warning to those who so easily depart from the teaching of Christ.
Not only can you fall away from God you can become a deceiver and an antichrist.
Oh my goodness, did you copy and paste this same post (with some bolding modifications) from the "Falling away from the Faith (it's possible)" thread? - http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...g-away-faith-its-possible-43.html#post3116279 Be sure to read my rebuttal in post #847 and don't let FBI agent Stephen63 see that copied the same post on another thread. He will be out to incriminate you. 
2 John is a wonderful little book that speaks of the security of the believer in Christ.
Here John is saying that the truth will be in you forever. Jesus is the Truth. The Spirit of God is called the Spirit of Truth and Grace.
Paul says in Eph. 1:13 after hearing of Christ - we believed and were sealed with the Holy Spirit. Jesus said the Holy Spirit will be in us forever. Jesus is NOT a liar.
2 John 1:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The elder to the chosen lady and her children, whom I love in truth; and not only I, but also all who know the truth,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
2 John 1:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
Works-based/ works-righteousness believers that deny the work of Christ are actually the very ones that are not abiding in "the teaching of Christ."
"Abiding in the teaching of Christ" is believing in the finished work of Christ only for salvation and living which all grace teachers encourage us to do.
Jesus said that He lived by the Father inside of Him. He said that it is the Father inside Him who is doing His works - not Jesus. He could do nothing of His own initiative.
As Jesus lived by the life of the Father in Him - with total dependence on His life - so we too live by the life of Christ inside of us manifesting His life as a fruit of our union as one spirit with Christ. We too can do nothing without Christ.
We live now from the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of liberty in Christ, the law of faith ( the law is NOT of faith ) , the law of Christ Himself.
Preach and teach the love and grace of God in the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and Christians will have the proper nutrients to grow up in Him.
Some people have exchanged the life of Christ for a behavior modification program and thus nullify the very grace of God needed to walk in this world what the Lord has already done at the cross and resurrection.
Here John is saying that the truth will be in you forever. Jesus is the Truth. The Spirit of God is called the Spirit of Truth and Grace.
Paul says in Eph. 1:13 after hearing of Christ - we believed and were sealed with the Holy Spirit. Jesus said the Holy Spirit will be in us forever. Jesus is NOT a liar.
2 John 1:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The elder to the chosen lady and her children, whom I love in truth; and not only I, but also all who know the truth,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] for the sake of the truth which abides in us and will be with us forever:
2 John 1:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
Works-based/ works-righteousness believers that deny the work of Christ are actually the very ones that are not abiding in "the teaching of Christ."
"Abiding in the teaching of Christ" is believing in the finished work of Christ only for salvation and living which all grace teachers encourage us to do.
Jesus said that He lived by the Father inside of Him. He said that it is the Father inside Him who is doing His works - not Jesus. He could do nothing of His own initiative.
As Jesus lived by the life of the Father in Him - with total dependence on His life - so we too live by the life of Christ inside of us manifesting His life as a fruit of our union as one spirit with Christ. We too can do nothing without Christ.
We live now from the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of liberty in Christ, the law of faith ( the law is NOT of faith ) , the law of Christ Himself.
Preach and teach the love and grace of God in the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and Christians will have the proper nutrients to grow up in Him.
Some people have exchanged the life of Christ for a behavior modification program and thus nullify the very grace of God needed to walk in this world what the Lord has already done at the cross and resurrection.