The Fear Of the Lord

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CherieR

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What is the fear of the Lord and how do you know you have it?
 

DustyRhodes

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What is the fear of the Lord and how do you know you have it?
1 John 4: [SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. [SUP]17 [/SUP]This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. [SUP]18 [/SUP]There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

In the beginning there was fear but Christ crucified removed all fear.
 

CherieR

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1 John 4: [SUP]15 [/SUP]If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. [SUP]17 [/SUP]This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. [SUP]18 [/SUP]There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

In the beginning there was fear but Christ crucified removed all fear.

I will have to disagree with you though those are definitely good bible verses. Jesus encouraged his disciples to fear God( see Matthew 10:28)
 

stonesoffire

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I think this has to do with not allowing our respect for Gods holiness to falter and we disrespect Him with a flip attitude of approaching Him or living our life.

He does want us to boldly approach in love. I thought Dustys post was great.
 

CherieR

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I think this has to do with not allowing our respect for Gods holiness to falter and we disrespect Him with a flip attitude of approaching Him or living our life.

He does want us to boldly approach in love. I thought Dustys post was great.

That sounds about right to me. I guess it all depends on what you mean by fear. God's children are not called to be terrified of God; otherwise, how could we approach God boldly.
 

stonesoffire

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I admit that I was at one time. But, in learning about the nature of God through Jesus, I fell in love with My Father.
 

Chris1975

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Proverbs 16v6

[SUP]6 [/SUP]In mercy and truth Atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the Lord one departs from evil.
 

Chris1975

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Luke 12v5

[SUP]4 [/SUP]“And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

The words of Jesus. To His called out ones.
 

Chris1975

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[h=1]Proverbs 1:7New King James Version (NKJV)[/h] [SUP]7 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.




This verse can go a long way on this forum....
 
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What is the fear of the Lord and how do you know you have it?
The fear of the LORD is the fear to do wrong,and to hate evil,because God will go against all who have pleasure in wrong doing.

Also by the fear of the LORD is when people actually understand the word of God better.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do
his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Pro 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

Pro 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

If we hold unto sin,and do not get rid of it then we are in a position of being judged.

2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Some people never come to the truth that they have to abstain from sin,and some depart from the living God,and go back to their sinful ways.
 

Chris1975

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Acts 5 (Ananias and Sapphira)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.

Why? Because of Judgement. This was more than chastening, would you agree? :)
 

CherieR

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I will have to disagree with you though those are definitely good bible verses. Jesus encouraged his disciples to fear God( see Matthew 10:28)

I realize that I was quick to say I disagree with dustyrhodes without taking into account what he might mean by fear.
 

stonesoffire

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Acts 5 (Ananias and Sapphira)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So great fear came upon all the church and upon all who heard these things.

Why? Because of Judgement. This was more than chastening, would you agree? :)
Depends on the end result don't you think?

In this case..Ananias and Sapphira was testing the Holy Spirit. Not a good thing to do...that might be the blasphemy of the Spirit.

But, chastening is for our good if we repent and turn back in the mercy of His act.

Judgment may correct but the end result as great as the sin committed.
 

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What is the fear of the Lord and how do you know you have it?
We know we have it when we are dead to the right to ourselves, and fully dependent on God thru Christ Jesus.

We are told by Scripture the fear of the Lord is the beginning to knowledge and so it is our beginning with God, and it is our end as well:

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the duty of mankind. (Ecc. 12:13).

and before someone simply says, this is Old Testament: let me add a NT inclusion:

"Therefore I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God - this is your true and proper worship." (Romans 12:1).

You could include then, (Romans 12:2, and 1 Peter 2:18-25 as well in understanding how fear is a good thing if we apply it to the light of His life's-blood offering. A wine fully poured out for us and us fully poured out to Him.

The subject becomes even more mysterious when we read something like (1 John 4:18) that says that "perfect love expels all fear." So how do we make sense of these two diametrically opposing thoughts? How can we fear God while he expels all fear?

Scripture is full of examples of how fearing God is a positive rather than a negative thing. For example in (Gen. 42:18), Joseph wins his brothers' trust when he declares he is a God-fearing man. It was because the midwives feared God that they obeyed him instead of the authorities by sparing the Hebrew babies (Exodus 1:17). Pharaoh brought disaster on his nation because he did not fear God (Exodus 9:29-31). Moses chose leaders to help him on the basis that they feared God and wouldn't take bribes (Exodus 18:21) and told the Hebrews that God met with them in a terrifying display of his power so that they wouldn't sin (Exodus 20:20).

The Mosaic Law cites fear of God as a reason to treat the disabled and elderly well (Leviticus 19: 14,32). And lest you think this is only an Old Testament idea, note that Jesus states this stronger than anyone when he says, "Don't be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28). And Paul says to work toward complete holiness because we fear God (2 Corinthians 7:1).

So it's clear from these passages, that fearing God is good because it saves us from caving into our own sinful nature. That's why hearing someone is God-fearing actually makes us trust that person more. If they fear God, they are more likely to keep their word and treat others with kindness. In fact, Romans 3, a classic chapter on sin, says that our chief sin is that we "have no fear of God at all" (Romans 3:18).

So how does fear of God, who is perfect love, take away fear? William D. Eisenhower puts it this way in his article 'Fearing God" in Christianity Today:

Unfortunately, many of us presume that the world is the ultimate threat and that God's function is to offset it. How different this is from the biblical position that God is far scarier than the world …. When we assume that the world is the ultimate threat, we give it unwarranted power, for in truth, the world's threats are temporary. When we expect God to balance the stress of the world, we reduce him to the world's equal …. As I walk with the Lord, I discover that God poses an ominous threat to my ego, but not to me. He rescues me from my delusions, so he may reveal the truth that sets me free. He casts me down, only to lift me up again. He sits in judgment of my sin, but forgives me nevertheless. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, but love from the Lord is its completion.

And, of course, the ultimate example of fear and perfect love working together is Jesus Christ. He warned us at every turn to fear God, not men—and he confirmed that in everything about his life and death. He spoke lovingly but frankly to all and didn't mince words when people needed to face their sin and repent. But he also demonstrated love beyond human understanding when he lived out his words, "There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends (John 15:13)." With love like that, what is left to fear but God?
 
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Chris1975

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Depends on the end result don't you think?

In this case..Ananias and Sapphira was testing the Holy Spirit. Not a good thing to do...that might be the blasphemy of the Spirit.

But, chastening is for our good if we repent and turn back in the mercy of His act.

Judgment may correct but the end result as great as the sin committed.
I like your comment. And yes great fear fell on the rest of the church, as God made an example of Ananias and Sapphira. It is through this fear of the Lord that the church draws near to Him, and walk in holiness.
 
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Proverbs 1:7New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]7 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.




This verse can go a long way on this forum....

[SUP]7 [/SUP]The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.


Genesis 3:10 "And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." <<< the beginning of mans fear of Gods Word

John 3:20-21 "
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

1 john 2:3-6 "And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."

1 john 4:17-19 " Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 19We love him, because he first loved us."


reverential fear should remain until a person can truly agree with this statement

1 john 5;2-3 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

as we accept His Love for us, His grace, we are then to walk in the commandments given through Jesus Christ as we grow. and this removes fear, until then Grace is doing its work while working in conjunction with the fear of God, that moves us into the obedience of God, and at that point, we no longer have any reason to be afraid of wrath, and all the praise and thanks always will belong to Jesus for what He did to bring us Home and none of us will ever Lose appreciation for Gods Work accomplished through Him, to save us.
 

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"Blessed is every one that feareth the Lord; that walketh in HIS ways." (Psalm 128:1). The remarkable things about fearing God is that when you fear God you fear nothing else, whereas if you do not fear God you fear everything else. "Blessed is every one that feareth the Lord,"; the writer to the Hebrews tells us to fear, lest (Heaven forbid) there should be any promise of God's of which we come short. (Hebrews 4:1).
 
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I look at the Fear of the Lord like I do electricity.


I am not an electrician at all, but that does not stop me from working on sockets or enjoying the benefits it provides me.

I understand without question that electricity of any kind, AC or DC, has the power to hurt me or kill me outright if I am careless while working around it. This knowledge does cause me to fear electricity and that fear could keep me from being around electricity completely.

However this knowledge and fear then gives me the wisdom to acknowledge, respect and reverent electricity for what it could do to me, if I am careless, take it for granted, or underestimate the power it has over me.

Because I now have the wisdom to acknowledge respect and reverent electricity I can enjoy a 2 way relationship with it and all the benefits it provides.
 

Chris1975

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[h=1]2 Corinthians 7New King James Version (NKJV)[/h] 7 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Here it is again:
......cleanse ourselves
......holiness
......fear of the Lord
 

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Fear has to do with punishment... perfect love casts out fear :)