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limey410

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Yeah a little....hahaha been eating like a bush pig hahhahaha Australian food rocks.....went to an all you can eat Brazilian steak house last night in Darling Harbor...gained a kilo probably hahaahha
My wife and I went to Fiji for our honeymoon and it was chock a block full of Aussies, they were a lot of fun to hang out with.
 

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My wife and I went to Fiji for our honeymoon and it was chock a block full of Aussies, they were a lot of fun to hang out with.
When I was in the Navy stationed in Hawaii, I met up with some Aussie sailors and they were a blast to hang out with! I would love to visit Australia. :cool:
 
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When I was in the Navy stationed in Hawaii, I met up with some Aussie sailors and they were a blast to hang out with! I would love to visit Australia. :cool:
My son after finishing his college - went to Australia for a year and worked there. After the "trauma" of working - he went to Thailand for 3 months to "recover"...lol
 
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Ariel82

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This does not actually answer the question, or rather it maybe confirms it.
This is a lawless gospel because the law and its power is nailed to the cross.

Paul says this
having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
col 2:14
So what was nailed to the cross was ones past legal indebtedness which has now
been taken away. The law still condemns if sin is commited, it is just past missdeeds
are forgiven and cleansed.

This is a long way from saying sin is ok and a further debt is not created by sinful
behaviour. It is clear from scripture David was cleansed of sin, yet he still sinned
with Bathsheba, but when challenged confessed and repented.

Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator.
Col 3:5-10

This is very much obedience to the law of Christ, specifying what is acceptable
behaviour and what is not. This is very odd is all law or measures or goals are
now removed.


Hmmm let me see a if I can speak Peter language tonight...,,,

What was nailed to the cross was the CONDEMNATION AND POWER of the law over people's lives.

God's law is still in effect for the world but God teaches His children to love others and walk with the Holy Spirit Thus fulfilling all laws by address why God gave us the law to begin with: to love God and others fully with His AGAPE love.

Condemnation is not the same as chastenment.

God corrects our behavior, forgives us and teaches us a better way.

Satan condemns us and tells us we will never change and are unworthy of forgiveness and love.
 
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Ariel82

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But we must learn to distinguish between justification (on the one hand) and regeneration (on the other). If we think we can maintain our salvation by our obedience then we have it backwards. Our just standing before God has been established by Christ. He has qualified to share in the inheritance with the saints. But if we think we Jesus does not require repentance and obedience or that we can abide in disobedience and trust in some prayer we uttered years ago then its time to do some serious self-evaluation to see whether you are in the faith. For while the regenerate heart does not make one sinless but certainly the indwelling Spirit makes us mourn over sin so that we cannot abide there as a permanent place of residence.
https://www.monergism.com/blog/faith-or-obedience
 
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My wife and I went to Fiji for our honeymoon and it was chock a block full of Aussies, they were a lot of fun to hang out with.
For sure.......I have made 6 trips down under and spent 5 plus months in AU....love it
 
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When I was in the Navy stationed in Hawaii, I met up with some Aussie sailors and they were a blast to hang out with! I would love to visit Australia. :cool:
You should....round trip from L.A. is only about a grand if you book a few months ahead....I always fly from St. Louis to Dallas and it is a 17 hour flight from Dallas to Sydney
 
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Hmmm let me see a if I can speak Peter language tonight...,,,

What was nailed to the cross was the CONDEMNATION AND POWER of the law over people's lives.

God's law is still in effect for the world but God teaches His children to love others and walk with the Holy Spirit Thus fulfilling all laws by address why God gave us the law to begin with: to love God and others fully with His AGAPE love.

Condemnation is not the same as chastenment.

God corrects our behavior, forgives us and teaches us a better way.

Satan condemns us and tells us we will never change and are unworthy of forgiveness and love.
He will nevwr get it until he finally figures out that Christ paid the entire sin debt of those who actually exercise saving faith and that the righteousness of Christ is IMPUTED unto all who believe......eternally I might add...!
 
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Hmmm let me see a if I can speak Peter language tonight...,,,

What was nailed to the cross was the CONDEMNATION AND POWER of the law over people's lives.
mathew 5:17 17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law..



Romans 3:31
Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? By no means! Instead, we uphold the Law.

Conclusion

The punishment of the law has changed for the christians that all nothing more or nothing less have a nice day..

 
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Ariel82

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Did you read the rest of my post Jimbo?

"God's law is still in effect for the world but God teaches His children
to love others and walk with the Holy Spirit Thus fulfilling all laws by address why God gave us the law to begin with: to love God and others fully with His AGAPE love.

Condemnation is not the same as chastenment.

God corrects our behavior, forgives us and teaches us a better way.


Satan condemns us and tells us we will never change and are unworthy of forgiveness and love."
 
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Ariel82

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◄ 1 Corinthians 15:56 ►
New International Version
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

New Living Translation
For sin is the sting that results in death, and the law gives sin its power.

English Standard Version
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Berean Study Bible
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the Law.

Berean Literal Bible
Now the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the Law.
 
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I agree that condemnation of the law is something that lasts way to long after someone has been convicted of the law...


for instance convictions from the law are no longer spent when applying for a job... You now in the uk have to declare spent and unspent convictions to your employer.... This is condemnation of the law in my book..

But this condemantion of the law is no diffent to how people try to condem others in this thread by trying to make people look bad instead of blaming the enemy.

This is reality that in the eyes of the law its always the poor person under the influnence of satan that takes the punishiment and not Satan...

Its also reality that many people are not free from condemnation coz they can not forgive there brother or sister..
 
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Ariel82

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I do believe people are free of condemnation. However they may not be completely mature and able to discern spiritual realities but in truth are still enslaved to some lies and spiritual strongholds when they condemn a brother or sister instead of clearly seeing that the enemy is holding them hostage.

What you have to realise and forgive is that we all have logs in our eyes God is helping us remove.

It's easy to the speck in another's eye and ignore the log in our own.

For example God lead me to see that the Bible was really His work and not just man made writings. That helps me discern when people are speaking God's truth and when they are just repeating whispers.
 
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I condem you not is not something we will always achieve... Where the saying Goes there is no condemnation in christ i condem you not... It does not me mean i wont condem anyone it means Jesus will not condem me.. but how ever he will convict me.. he will convict and punish me accordingly but he wont forever condem me..


We will always convict people with our words the bible says as much that our word will devide and bring a sword.... its knowing who to bring the sword to and who to bring the milk ?
 
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Personaly my belief on condemnation is those who are truly in christ feel no condemation and accept there conviction and dont feel condemmed for too long... or convicted...
 
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He will nevwr get it until he finally figures out that Christ paid the entire sin debt of those who actually exercise saving faith and that the righteousness of Christ is IMPUTED unto all who believe......eternally I might add...!
You claim so much with no scriptural backing or life experience. If one accepts you can walk
with Christ and come to a key point you walk away, then the beginning of the walk makes sense.
The reality is loyalty will be tested. Where you are on this path it makes a difference. We are called to
walk, to stay faithful, so amen to His anointing.

What stops people from walking and knowing His love is disbelief in His word. Believe and walk
in it. Love is the overcome, Amen, love through the cross.