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I think taking on fostering a child can be a blessing, even if the child is of a different faith. By force no one will get saved, as I said earlier, but, as with my 17 years old girl that lives with me every third week, this is the place she will hear the gospel. She often has asked me about Jesus, and I tell her. Jesus is the son of God, he is my Lord and Savior. If she hadn't opened up to me at school, telling about her violent father, she would never have become under foster care, she would never have stayed at my house, and perhaps never heard the truth. Not by force, but through conversation and respect. I believe God can move mountains, and He sure can by His Spirit, change a Muslim's heart for Christ. To compare a human, unsaved, being with a PET???? Muslims, pagans, hindi... we are all created in God's image. We should love even our enemies and we are supposed to share the Gospel, and this teen has now heard the truth. Yes. She is still a Muslim, but I believe it has been planted a seed in her heart. I can't wait to see her saved!
I love that we as Christians can expect God thru Jesus and the Holy Spirit, to meet us in the streets and homes of our lives. How being always and forever in us, we have His guidance and help to establish our steps. My answer is to pray. And pray and fast. To ask, seek and knock for God's practical will concerning this reality God has laid upon you.
Parenting is accepting our kids as they are, and never leaving them their to be uninfluenced toward love and good deeds.To invest in our children spiritually is, in essence, investing in their Eternal joy. It is the love God has called us all to propagate in our relationships with others. Be it a child, a friend, a brethren, or a non-christian, even our enemies.
Now, we look at Jesus and how He went about these relationships, He led first by example, then He led by planting seed of encouragement and warnings of Spiritual truths all packaged in genuine love, then we selected a few to invest in as those people heeded and not just needed Him. Then He was transparent, and even vulnerable by way of leading them into discussion and discovery of Himself and His values for them to adopt by their own will. He instructed what best to practice, and what not to practice, always sharing alongside them as to why, and for what purpose.
So going back to children of different cultures even though they are now apart of your current culture, we see a need as we discern this spiritually. A need to allow patiently a cross over from one culture to another, just as Christ allows His patience with us crossing over from death unto life in the way we live in Him now set apart from that old culture.
So, your story has a cross-roads. What we need to be patient with and what we need to invest in, in the way of proper alignment with God in righteous living. If these children are of the age to be under your care, then yes, take them to what God has made clear for you to invest them in. But parenting isn't about force, it's about doing, as we are apart of it with them experiencing it with them, including there hardships over it in understanding their needs to make a successful cross over. Ultimately they will be set to go by you which is ultimately forcing, but the goal is always to side step the concept of forcing into an agreement in going as you cultivate this in them thru questions and involvement of love in all areas of their lives.
This then will depend on their age, and understanding spiritually - etc etc...But the question here is how much trench work will it take you (or the parent) to love them toward having them seek God's face on all things? There's the prayer.
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Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting of another, usually a child, from that person's biological or legal parent or parents, and, in so doing, permanently transfers all rights and responsibilities, along with filiation, from the biological parent or parents.
Unlike guardianship or other systems designed for the care of the young, adoption is intended to effect a permanent change in status and as such requires societal recognition, either through legal or religious sanction. Historically, some societies have enacted specific laws governing adoption; where others have tried to achieve adoption through less formal means, notably via contracts that specified inheritance rights and parental responsibilities without an accompanying transfer of filiation. Modern systems of adoption, arising in the 20th century, tend to be governed by comprehensive statutes and regulations.
Thus, an adoptive parent is now the parent in full commitment and abilities to train, love, and nurture as they see fit, or for a Christian; as He sees fit..
Unlike guardianship or other systems designed for the care of the young, adoption is intended to effect a permanent change in status and as such requires societal recognition, either through legal or religious sanction. Historically, some societies have enacted specific laws governing adoption; where others have tried to achieve adoption through less formal means, notably via contracts that specified inheritance rights and parental responsibilities without an accompanying transfer of filiation. Modern systems of adoption, arising in the 20th century, tend to be governed by comprehensive statutes and regulations.
Thus, an adoptive parent is now the parent in full commitment and abilities to train, love, and nurture as they see fit, or for a Christian; as He sees fit..
Im just saying that forcing Christianity on another human doesnt mean that you are saving them.
Many many Christians that were forced into going to church and participating in organized Christianity go on to live their lives in a "sinful" manner.
They fornicate,hate,live their lives in greed,maybe these Christians wont make it to the next stage.
I believe that its necessary for the individual to prove themselves to God WILLINGLY.
God will not trust belief under duress
Just like confession under torture cannot be trusted.
Many many Christians that were forced into going to church and participating in organized Christianity go on to live their lives in a "sinful" manner.
They fornicate,hate,live their lives in greed,maybe these Christians wont make it to the next stage.
I believe that its necessary for the individual to prove themselves to God WILLINGLY.
God will not trust belief under duress
Just like confession under torture cannot be trusted.
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im just agreeing with what scripture says
i dont know what you mean by force...
i will definitely teach my child the truth
and i hear what others say about a teen that rejects the truth
i couldnt see me adopting a teen who hates Gods word and rejects it in the first place
but i wouldnt shelter my child from the truth just because
what?
he says he doesnt want to hear it and would rather do what?
listen to teachings of the devil?
i will raise up my child AS God says to
or i wont raise a child
these are my two options
Proverbs 22:6
“Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 12:1
“Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.”
Fear of the LORD is the foundation of wisdom. Knowledge of the Holy One results in good judgment. (Proverbs 9:10
Proverbs 13:24
24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
i dont know what you mean by force...
i will definitely teach my child the truth
and i hear what others say about a teen that rejects the truth
i couldnt see me adopting a teen who hates Gods word and rejects it in the first place
but i wouldnt shelter my child from the truth just because
what?
he says he doesnt want to hear it and would rather do what?
listen to teachings of the devil?
i will raise up my child AS God says to
or i wont raise a child
these are my two options
Proverbs 22:6
“Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 12:1
“Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.”
Fear of the LORD is the foundation of wisdom. Knowledge of the Holy One results in good judgment. (Proverbs 9:10
Proverbs 13:24
24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
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Joshua 24:14-15
14 Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord.
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
14 Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord.
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Oh yeah, if you have a child that is yours...that is a clean slate...basically a sponge that will absorb any belief presented to the child then yes its your responsability to teach your child the proper morals and belief.
But the OP was asking about was taking someone elses child that already has a belief in place and forcing their belief system on them.
Thats what the catholics did with boiling people alive with torturing humans into submission.
They did these things in Gods name...what do you think is going to happen to them when He shows up?
Ill say it again because i think that the point needs to be emphasized.
Belief under duress cannot be trusted.
If you were going to create a perfect world for the true believers would you let someone in that was forced into going through the motions of being a "good Christian"?
Not even God forces Himself on people.
He gives you a soul to do whatever you want with.
When He judges us He judges us individualy NOT with our family,friends, or congregation.
For some strange reason people just dont get it.
True belief is something that only He can quantify.
But the OP was asking about was taking someone elses child that already has a belief in place and forcing their belief system on them.
Thats what the catholics did with boiling people alive with torturing humans into submission.
They did these things in Gods name...what do you think is going to happen to them when He shows up?
Ill say it again because i think that the point needs to be emphasized.
Belief under duress cannot be trusted.
If you were going to create a perfect world for the true believers would you let someone in that was forced into going through the motions of being a "good Christian"?
Not even God forces Himself on people.
He gives you a soul to do whatever you want with.
When He judges us He judges us individualy NOT with our family,friends, or congregation.
For some strange reason people just dont get it.
True belief is something that only He can quantify.
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well i also wouldnt force him to pray or go to church...
youre right its a worthless effort
but lets say hes muslim
do you think it would be wrong for me to further study his beliefs and have discussions to try and show him the truth?
i would love him like my own
and seeing him marching down the broad path would be eating my heart daily
youre right its a worthless effort
but lets say hes muslim
do you think it would be wrong for me to further study his beliefs and have discussions to try and show him the truth?
i would love him like my own
and seeing him marching down the broad path would be eating my heart daily
Well... a satanist? Thats a extenuating circumstance in the extreme.
I wouldnt adopt a satanist in the first place.
Anybody that has a satanist kid dropped the ball as a parent and...well this is a main reason that He is ending the world.
But you are asking me personally?
If my child was a satanist even after my guidance then there would probably be some wires crossed in the brain and i would get them the psycholical help that is necessary.
I wouldnt adopt a satanist in the first place.
Anybody that has a satanist kid dropped the ball as a parent and...well this is a main reason that He is ending the world.
But you are asking me personally?
If my child was a satanist even after my guidance then there would probably be some wires crossed in the brain and i would get them the psycholical help that is necessary.