Not By Works

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NoNameMcgee

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Ecclesiastes 7:20
20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not

when i went over this today

it felt different than
Romans 3:23

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;




romans is clearly saying sinned past tense


but ecclesiastes

sounds less like a statement aimed at past tense...
 
JIMBO43

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Ariel82 said:
Is Jesus married or fiancee to the church to be married at judgement day?
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Im not sure that applicable.. sorry agel but thats a bit much dont you think ? Jesus said marriage is bewteen a man and a women he didnt say he would not marry you ? or did he ????????????????
 
JIMBO43

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dcontroversal said:
I have no clue what You are talking about.....I asked you a question because I was confused by both statements....your fired back instead of just explaining so I told you why I asked and then you elevated it...so I pulled your quotes.....and you explained....end of story.........
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mate ok yeah whatever .... seeyar tomoorow..
 
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23Then Jesus said to all of them, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me. 24For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

This is a works we must do and that his follow him daily.. not weekly or once in a blue moon but daily.

this is not something we should take lightly... this is something verry searious that are works do keep us saved..:)
 
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NoNameMcgee

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JIMBO43 said:
23Then Jesus said to all of them, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me. 24For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

This is a works we must do and that his follow him daily.. not weekly or once in a blue moon but daily.

this is not something we should take lightly... this is something verry searious that are works do keep us saved..:)
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well works are a result of being saved...

we are indebted for works

God doesnt owe us for them

when its the Holy spirit that does all good
 
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Or let me put it this way we must be prepared do die for his works and of course Jesus the man him self all tho all i have is a picture in my mind is Jesus the actor... would be just Good if i could see him like thomas so he could answer are question directly again...


coz you guys dont seem to think he has answered us directly allready god bless yas
 
dcontroversal

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NoNameMcgee said:
Ecclesiastes 7:20
20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not

when i went over this today

it felt different than
Romans 3:23

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;




romans is clearly saying sinned past tense


but ecclesiastes

sounds less like a statement aimed at past tense...
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Just a thought........the word AND connects the two thoughts.....

SO.....if it was past tense....wound it not say.....

For all have sinned and HAVE come short of the glory of GOD............
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
Im not sure that applicable.. sorry agel but thats a bit much dont you think ? Jesus said marriage is bewteen a man and a women he didnt say he would not marry you ? or did he ????????????????
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The marriage supper of the Lamb..,i said that Jesus was married to the church...but some folks don't believe that has happened yet....got distracted, sorry off topic.
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
Or let me put it this way we must be prepared do die for his works and of course Jesus the man him self all tho all i have is a picture in my mind is Jesus the actor... would be just Good if i could see him like thomas so he could answer are question directly again...


coz you guys dont seem to think he has answered us directly allready god bless yas
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His direct answers are recorded in the Bible...not sure what you mean, Jimbo bro.
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
23Then Jesus said to all of them, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me. 24For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

This is a works we must do and that his follow him daily.. not weekly or once in a blue moon but daily.

this is not something we should take lightly... this is something verry searious that are works do keep us saved..:)
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Is this one of your jokes or do you really believe that works save you?

I agree we have to daily pick up our cross and follow Jesus.

It's what gives our lives purpose and meaning. If we follow the world instead, we have lost our spiritual witness.

The blessing is each day is a new day. If we fail yesterday, God gives us a new chance with the rising of each sun. Just as He gives us rest to recover and heal at night.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Is this one of your jokes or do you really believe that works save you?

I agree we have to daily pick up our cross and follow Jesus.

It's what gives our lives purpose and meaning. If we follow the world instead, we have lost our spiritual witness.

The blessing is each day is a new day. If we fail yesterday, God gives us a new chance with the rising of each sun. Just as He gives us rest to recover and heal at night.
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i believe not doing them will have consequences ... thats all sister angel:)
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
i believe not doing them will have consequences ... thats all sister angel:)
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We can definitely agree about that....God discipline isn't pleasant but He does it because He loves us....

Otherwise we would be spoiled brats.
 
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Ariel82 said:
We can definitely agree about that....God discipline isn't pleasant but He does it because He loves us....

Otherwise we would be spoiled brats.
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ok so surely you should feel your own conviction next time the same situation crops up ?
 
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JIMBO43 said:
i believe not doing them will have consequences ... thats all sister angel:)
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This makes things sound like doing homework or not doing it will get you a detention.

The way I feel about it, when you truly see the suffering people go through and how
much just a little bit of love and affection helps, would anyone not give this.

My kids, we watched like hawks for their coping with situations.
My son would lose a leg and not notice, while others one little tumble and the world
had ended. Praise. The smallest effort which they seriously put a lot of thought in needed
praise, it was like fuel and inspiration. And for their age it was brilliant.

You would not believe how they grew and developed, it took a little observation, knowing their
hearts and just reaching out and understanding.

So seeing need and not responding shows a dead heart. That is the point. It is not about the
action, it is about what is within and the lack of love that beats there.
 
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PeterJens said:
This makes things sound like doing homework or not doing it will get you a detention.

The way I feel about it, when you truly see the suffering people go through and how
much just a little bit of love and affection helps, would anyone not give this.

My kids, we watched like hawks for their coping with situations.
My son would lose a leg and not notice, while others one little tumble and the world
had ended. Praise. The smallest effort which they seriously put a lot of thought in needed
praise, it was like fuel and inspiration. And for their age it was brilliant.

You would not believe how they grew and developed, it took a little observation, knowing their
hearts and just reaching out and understanding.

So seeing need and not responding shows a dead heart. That is the point. It is not about the
action, it is about what is within and the lack of love that beats there.
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excellent good works. but arnt father suppose to do this anyway and even the wild animals love there cubs
 
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