it does
it had EVERYTHING to do with it and it reduces your "concern" to nothingl and having no bearing on anything
Eve saying that they could not even touch the tree did not and would not prevent what was foreknown from the beginning
Jesus is the Only begotten Son of God, read this and decide
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it does
it had EVERYTHING to do with it and it reduces your "concern" to nothingl and having no bearing on anything
Eve saying that they could not even touch the tree did not and would not prevent what was foreknown from the beginning
You must be smoking banana peels my friend. Eve was created to be a help to Adam. Well built actually.
No. My head didn't explode and I have heard it before
And actually it is only now that I am saying what the heck does that matter
the command given was do not eat from the tree for IN THE DAY YOU EAT OF IT, you will surely die
showing that GOD knew there would be THAT DAY
That was after the fall
when GOD created them HE created them both male and female in HIS LIKENESS and HE called them "man"
show me where in GENESIS (before the fall) that GOD said I will make you a helpmate and you will rule over her
We must really be having a problem talking with each other
I agree. She was to be a helpmate. It was after the fall that GOD said her desire would be for her husband and he would rule over
but that was said after the fall
Obviously you didn't bother to read the text given you and instead typed out a rant. If you did your above words are senseless. Try reading the text, it refutes your position entirely.
I guess I could say the same thing to you about your "rant" without reading Ezekiel 28
So what you are telling me is I better step back because I am a woman?
is that what you are trying to say?
because that is what Paul was telling Timothy about women teaching
even though we know that in CHRIST there is no longer male or female
In any case sir, before the fall NO..Adam did not rule over Eve.
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Gen 5:2
Of course that didn't mean their name was Adam since those who can't admit they were wrong will agrue that in Genesis 5:2 that God called their name mankind. Yet if the female's name was Eve before the fall then why it written after the fall that Adam call his wife's name Eve as written in Genesis 3:20?
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I know Ezekiel 28 but the fact remains you hadn't read the text given you, then answered as if you had. Nor are you able to concede it refutes your position in honor of the Word of God.
In fact you'll most likely continue on in opposition to it never admitting your error or accepting its correction. It plainly refutes you, humbly admit it and accept it. If you will not it says much.
I have no error sir
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it was after the fall that GOD said that the woman's desire would be for her husband and he would rule over her
but you are right according to 1 Timothy 2
do not suffer a woman to teach
and that is what I am
i am right but you are a man and want to push your authority
i hope you knoe ehat you are doing
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I gave you a passage that refutes you, and I'm not trying to say anything. Believe me if I have something to say I'll say it.
Now, how you're reacting to giving you that passage says a lot about you and shows that you cannot receive correction, even from Scripture which plainly refutes you.
You did not refute the truth that it was after the fall that it was said that the men would rule over his wife
bit in the beginning they were supposed to be one flesh. Male and female and the two were called "man"
would you like to fault adam for calling her woman when GOD called her "man"?
Genesis 2:18
Adonai, God, said, “It isn’t good that the person should be alone. I will make for him a companion suitable for helping him.”
This was before the fall, that God made Eve as a help for Adam....It was after the fall, as you say, that God said her desire would be for him. So I guess we're right.
You have much error.
It is noted you only go to portions of Scripture in 1 Timothy 2:12-13 you can come against only because you disagree with God Himself. Plainly the text teaches that since Adam was created first he was always the head of woman. This was before the fall so you're incorrect.
But you go past that part only to offer disagreement about women teachers, something Paul shows as unbiblical. Then you accuse me of trying to be pushy which frankly is you lying and showing yourself as rebellious and rejecting authority.
The fact remains: You disagree with God's Word.
Man has always been the head of woman, and rightfully so women are not to teach over a man. Yes, you don't like that but that is too bad, God has spoken and you're in error.
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