Preach flat earth and lead people to Christ.

[BeyondET]

The source of his map.....Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various jabs at the "Globe Theory

Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various jabs at the "Globe Theory".

It's intersting that folks believe what a real-estate developer made up back in 1893 to be of truth, a write up I've read on it, funny I didn't even see the little man hanging on for dear life in the map, I'm going to go look for the man hanging on.

Ferguson was trying to make an updated version of the flat Earth theory to fit the biblical description of the Earth with known facts," Bingham said. Typical of flat Earths, Ferguson's Earth is a rectangular slab, the four corners of which are each guarded by an angel. "What makes his flat Earth different from other theories is his theory holds that the Earth is imprinted with an 'inverse toroid. If you were to take a donut and press it into wet cement and then remove the donut, Bingham explained, the rounded impression it left in the cement would be what is known in mathematics as an inverse toroid.

It's pretty clever because it explains the Columbus phenomenon, where you see ships coming in over the horizon and gradually the mast gets taller and taller until you can see the ship," Bingham said. "By 1893, most people knew about horizons so he had to come up with some way to explain that.

The map also has a picture of a man holding onto the Earth for dear life, with an inscription that reads: "These men are flying on the globe at a rate of 65,000 miles per hour around the sun, and 1,042 miles per hour around the center of the earth (in their minds). Think of the speed!" Yeah right, Ferguson seems to have been implying.

These people truly believed that the Earth is not a globe!" Homuth said. "A lot of stuff like this got ignored and swept into history's wastebasket. But at the time people actually believed this stuff!

Incredibly, some people still do. The Flat Earth Society is an active organization currently led by a Virginian man named Daniel Shenton. Though Shenton believes in evolution and global warming, he and his hundreds, if not thousands, of followers worldwide also believe that the Earth is a disc that you can fall off of.

 

[CS1]

hmmm question were any people saved when the flat earth was taught?

 

[BeyondET]

Even funnier is that the real-estate guru Orlando Ferguson, says he was a professor, but there is no record of him getting such a degree. that dude was a complete idiot.

 

[slave]

Sure they do, it's called the north, south, east, west

Yes, by way of compass references. It carries the same symbolism as "to the ends of the Earth" and essentially means to every person, no matter where they live.

 

[BeyondET]

Yes, by way of compass references. It carries the same symbolism as "to the ends of the Earth" and essentially means to every person, no matter where they live.

I agree, and IMO just as the scripture says it means, to all the people of the civilizations that lived in the four corners of the earth not literal but symbolically, stretching out in all directions. Looking at the the verses after the statement of the four corners of the earth in Isaiah 11:12, clearly the statement of the four corners of earth and it's context are revealed.

 

[dcontroversal]

It's intersting that folks believe what a real-estate developer made up back in 1893 to be of truth, a write up I've read on it, funny I didn't even see the little man hanging on for dear life in the map, I'm going to go look for the man hanging on.

Ferguson was trying to make an updated version of the flat Earth theory to fit the biblical description of the Earth with known facts," Bingham said. Typical of flat Earths, Ferguson's Earth is a rectangular slab, the four corners of which are each guarded by an angel. "What makes his flat Earth different from other theories is his theory holds that the Earth is imprinted with an 'inverse toroid. If you were to take a donut and press it into wet cement and then remove the donut, Bingham explained, the rounded impression it left in the cement would be what is known in mathematics as an inverse toroid.

It's pretty clever because it explains the Columbus phenomenon, where you see ships coming in over the horizon and gradually the mast gets taller and taller until you can see the ship," Bingham said. "By 1893, most people knew about horizons so he had to come up with some way to explain that.

The map also has a picture of a man holding onto the Earth for dear life, with an inscription that reads: "These men are flying on the globe at a rate of 65,000 miles per hour around the sun, and 1,042 miles per hour around the center of the earth (in their minds). Think of the speed!" Yeah right, Ferguson seems to have been implying.

These people truly believed that the Earth is not a globe!" Homuth said. "A lot of stuff like this got ignored and swept into history's wastebasket. But at the time people actually believed this stuff!

Incredibly, some people still do. The Flat Earth Society is an active organization currently led by a Virginian man named Daniel Shenton. Though Shenton believes in evolution and global warming, he and his hundreds, if not thousands, of followers worldwide also believe that the Earth is a disc that you can fall off of.

God is direct and I have asked for two sets of scripture IN context that state verbatim the earth is flat.

Isaiah speaks of the circle of the earth.

The months without light and or dark in the Artic and Antarctica, as well as the seasons of winter and summer proves a tilt axis of a globe.

The horizon on the sea and the slow appearance of a ship as it comes over the point of sight and horizon proves a convex shape...not a flat shape...as well as mountains as one drive's across the plain......

The fact that one can look at planet and moons and see plainly that they are globes that SPIN

The fact that the stars are different and the heavens speak 12 signs of the Mazzaroth (JOB). By the tilt of the planet both the Southern and Northern Hemispheres can see the whole picture of GOD as God testifies to the entire world dia the stars and the 12 signs of the Mazzaroth

The fact that Flying the same route, same airspeed and same height a trip flying west takes more time than a trip flying east.

The fact that while flying you can see the curvature of the earth when at 42,000 feet flying to and from Australia

The fact that NO ONE has reached the edge to take pics, video etc.

The fact that the moon moves across the sun to cause a Solar eclipse and similarly with the moon behind the earth on OPPOSITE side of the earth from the sun to cause a blood moon or Lunar eclipse

and on and on and on and on........there is too much information to cause me to seriously doubt a pancake earth.......

 

[toinena]

Yup you heard me research flat earth scriptures and proofs and know the truth and speak the truth .

Did you become closer to Christ after you realized the earth was flat?

 

[BeyondET]

God is direct and I have asked for two sets of scripture IN context that state verbatim the earth is flat.

Isaiah speaks of the circle of the earth.

The months without light and or dark in the Artic and Antarctica, as well as the seasons of winter and summer proves a tilt axis of a globe.

The horizon on the sea and the slow appearance of a ship as it comes over the point of sight and horizon proves a convex shape...not a flat shape...as well as mountains as one drive's across the plain......

The fact that one can look at planet and moons and see plainly that they are globes that SPIN

The fact that the stars are different and the heavens speak 12 signs of the Mazzaroth (JOB). By the tilt of the planet both the Southern and Northern Hemispheres can see the whole picture of GOD as God testifies to the entire world dia the stars and the 12 signs of the Mazzaroth

The fact that Flying the same route, same airspeed and same height a trip flying west takes more time than a trip flying east.

The fact that while flying you can see the curvature of the earth when at 42,000 feet flying to and from Australia

The fact that NO ONE has reached the edge to take pics, video etc.

The fact that the moon moves across the sun to cause a Solar eclipse and similarly with the moon behind the earth on OPPOSITE side of the earth from the sun to cause a blood moon or Lunar eclipse

and on and on and on and on........there is too much information to cause me to seriously doubt a pancake earth.......

I completely agree, for me just knowing if I wanted to I could travel into any direction in one direction on earth without changing direction for a infinite amount of time true I may travel over the same spot as I started a Godzillion times, but I'm not restricted from doing that.

 

[Corbinscam]

Yet people live there for research :/



Back to my previous post, How does this relate to religion?

The gospel of flat earth is not more important then the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Boom. Enough said.

This is not and will never be a heaven or hell issue and it will never be more important than the true gospel.
If your religion hinges on the shape of the earth you should throw away your religion and try Jesus.

 

[1ofthem]

You took a verse to try and prove a flat earth from it mentioning four corners of earth, not realizing the full context is speaking of the major populations in those days.


13Then the jealousy of Ephraim will depart,
And those who harass Judah will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
And Judah will not harass Ephraim.

14They will swoop down on the slopes of the Philistines on the west;
Together they will plunder the sons of the east;
They will possess Edom and Moab,
And the sons of Ammon will be subject to them.

15And the LORD will utterly destroy
The tongue of the Sea of Egypt;
And He will wave His hand over the River
With His scorching wind;
And He will strike it into seven streams
And make men walk over dry-shod.

16And there will be a highway from Assyria
For the remnant of His people who will be left,
Just as there was for Israel
In the day that they came up out of the land of Egypt.

Yeah, I can see by the scripture you posted it mentions 2 corners of the earth, the east and the west. So it don't really take a rocket scientist to figure out the other corners are the north and south... So apparently the four corners are just symbolic about the civilizations of people living in the the east, west, north, and south.

 

[Denadii]

I'm actually surprised you haven't all seen this from simply reading the word.

I think you should give some examples of the Word saying the Earth is flat. Otherwise you're just spitting out words.

 

[Denadii]

13 years ago this summer I was lookin at the sky 20 years old and I seen it all . and it overflowed began preaching and pissing ppl off and the next day I told my dad about eternity and honesty and he told in the next breath that he had tried herion and I felt a dark smack in the face and I lost my mind. its been a bumpy road since then lost my family overdoses hate no one gets it still theres more to the story but its too much. anyway flat earth 6 months ago cleared things up again. and I'm burning hot no more luke warm. the truth needs to be spread I know the power in it. seek ye the truth and the truth shal set you free.

Did you look under your bed? Or in the back of your closet. I mean Really. Your mind can't be that lost. If you keep looking you'll find it.

 

[dcontroversal]

I think you should give some examples of the Word saying the Earth is flat. Otherwise you're just spitting out words.

I have asked three times in this thread and his other one for 2 sets of scripture in context that states verbatim that that the earth is flat....NONE

 

[Denadii]

I have asked three times in this thread and his other one for 2 sets of scripture in context that states verbatim that that the earth is flat....NONE

Not at all surprising. He lost his mind though, so that explains it.

 

[BeyondET]

It's interesting for a very long time language hasn't changed that much we still use words that can symbolize a small event though the word chosen is of something bigger, like the word Earthquake when a earthquake happens does the whole earth really quake? not saying it can't happen but usely when saying there was a earthquake somewhere on the earth that doesn't mean the whole earth shook, the earth shook just in that location.

 

[hornetguy]

I completely agree, for me just knowing if I wanted to I could travel into any direction in one direction on earth without changing direction for a infinite amount of time true I may travel over the same spot as I started a Godzillion times, but I'm not restricted from doing that.

Technically, that is not quite correct. If you travel in one "direction" going North/South, say you're headed north.... when you cross the North Pole, and continue in the same direction, you will then be travelling south.

But.... going East/West, it won't matter... head east, and keep going in the same direction, and you will always be going east.

I think that's why David said in Psalm 103, as far as east is from west.... you cannot go far enough east for it to become west. You CAN go far enough north for it to become south...

Just a thought....

 

[BeyondET]

Technically, that is not quite correct. If you travel in one "direction" going North/South, say you're headed north.... when you cross the North Pole, and continue in the same direction, you will then be travelling south.

But.... going East/West, it won't matter... head east, and keep going in the same direction, and you will always be going east.

I think that's why David said in Psalm 103, as far as east is from west.... you cannot go far enough east for it to become west. You CAN go far enough north for it to become south...

Just a thought....

that's a good point about traveling west or east it will always be either or, and it is kind of interesting to travel north at a certain position one will go over that point and will be then traveling south but at some point as well that will in the same way at a certain point one will be traveling north again, A infinite amount of flip flopping of north to south and back again, hehe...

 

[WineRose]

...What happened to "Don't Feed The Troll"?

 

[resurrection33]

...What happened to "Don't Feed The Troll"?

I have some of my best conversations with alleged trolls.

 

[oldhermit]

When you see an eclipse of the moon, what is the shape of the earth that is reflected on the moon. When you watch the transit of other planets across the sun what shape do these planets have? When you look through your telescope at the other planets, what shape do they have? Do you really believe that the earth is the only planet in the solar system that is flat?