Not By Works

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Its a no brainer.

Can anyone within themselves be like Jesus?

No

can anyone with Jesus in them become more like Jesus?

Yes

Hmm I wonder why?

Answers on a postcard please
you have to be a lion as well as a lamb.
 
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Because he alone is worthy and only him.

As for me I'm thankful he is ans also because HE wants me to share in his glory.

That's the difference, You and I understand he WANTS you to share. even though you KNOW you do not have the right, or have earned that right.

Where as others think they have that right, and have earned it, and fight back when people try to tell them otherwise.

That's why Jesus was crucified. The religious jew were deeply offended when Jesus told them they were not worthy to share in that glory,,
 
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you have to be a lion as well as a lamb.
There was only one worthy lamb, and he was sacrificed. There is only one lion, and he will rule with a rod of Iron.
 
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Amen...........Satan has blinded the minds of them that will not receive the truth for sure.......How can you say works save or keep saved in light of the scriptures which say NOT by WORKS of RIGHTEOUSNESS which we have done....or It is NOT of GRACE if it is of WORKS, or the PLENTEOUS in NUMBER that BOAST of their WORKS as their MEANS blended with FAITH<--their claim to KNOW Him by CALLING HIM LORD..........

You have got to be so distracted or blind to not see that or those references with many more to boot....
 

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Only you are worthy
 
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Its their fallback.

they demand works are required. (yet deny it when confronted) so they must think we believe work is not necessary, we can say a prayer and live like the heathen.

Which is part of the delusion I believe Satan has used to blind them.
and you can no wrong i suppose..

i suppose those who make a little mistake like believing works will save you willl go to hell to by theway yo0u make it sound...


And then i suppose your attitude is better than theres to and you can do no wrong saying workers will go to hell..


cuclusion bitter resentment heart in you brother
 
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and you can no wrong i suppose..

i suppose those who make a little mistake like believing works will save you willl go to hell to by theway yo0u make it sound...
According to God they will. Because they have placed faith in those few works. over faith in the cross. and thus have moved to a different gospel.


And then i suppose your attitude is better than theres to and you can do no wrong saying workers will go to hell..


cuclusion bitter resentment heart in you brother
Sounds like the resentment is in your heart..

Like I said, Sorry if you do not like to hear some things. That is not on me my friend.

PS. I do do wrong, that's why I still need a savior..
 
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Only you are worthy
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are you saying youve never been attacked ?

what does that have to do with what I said?

If we have never been attacked. I would wonder why.. we must not be doing much in the battle if satan does nto need to attack us..
 

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and you can no wrong i suppose..

i suppose those who make a little mistake like believing works will save you willl go to hell to by theway yo0u make it sound...


And then i suppose your attitude is better than theres to and you can do no wrong saying workers will go to hell..


cuclusion bitter resentment heart in you brother
Are you saying beleiving in works is a little mistake?

To at the end of the day it's Jesus who will judge and not man.
Jesus knows the heart and that is what all men will be judged on.

All works of beleivers will be laid bare, some will be precious and some crap but we will escape through the fire ans spend eternity with Jesus
 
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all in saying to survive this world you have to have a heart that is as big as lion and as gentle as lamb.. which is what Jesus puts in you over time he makes you grow.. which is the heart of a lion.
 
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Are you saying beleiving in works is a little mistake?
yes its no biiggee believing works will keep you saved.. as it is a works to repent it says as much in the bible billy lad..


and its certainly not biiger than peples horrible ignorant attitudes saying i will go to hell for bel;ieving works my works my repentance will keep me saved.. coz if i dont repent i am not saved. .... not to repent...= you cant be forgiven coz you havent asked for it............ unless of course you get run over by a bus :)
 
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yes its no biiggee believing works will keep you saved..
wow,, just wow.. This is scary,

Paul comes to mind, are you so foolish, having begun in the spirit. do you now think you are perfected in the flesh (works)

just one work is too much.

When th people asked Jesus what work they must do Jesus said it was the work of God. We need to understand what that means, and that means it is not our work.
 

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all in saying to survive this world you have to have a heart that is as big as lion and as gentle as lamb.. which is what Jesus puts in you over time he makes you grow.. which is the heart of a lion.
Well said Jimbo
 
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wow,, just wow.. This is scary,

Paul comes to mind, are you so foolish, having begun in the spirit. do you now think you are perfected in the flesh (works)

just one work is too much.

When th people asked Jesus what work they must do Jesus said it was the work of God. We need to understand what that means, and that means it is not our work.
I know....such indifference to the truth.....God has set the bar in his Son JESUS....either come by that bar or fall woefully short.....
 
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According to God they will. Because they have placed faith in those few works. over faith in the cross. and thus have moved to a different gospel.




Sounds like the resentment is in your heart..

Like I said, Sorry if you do not like to hear some things. That is not on me my friend.

PS. I do do wrong, that's why I still need a savior..
yeah right would that be the same gospel that constantine ordered ?

or the one our so called church run ny politicions are changing the texts to suit gay marriage ?


by the way politics is in our bible thats why its pretty evident you are so political on your views of deciding salvation on others here...


You have no right.. and in the name of God can you can stop polluting our minds.. God bless you