If I can please permit me to go through one paragraph at a time.
A little about the Book of Daniel first....It was written 300 years before Jesus told Mat 24:15,16, that Daniel was a Prophet.
Gabriel (the Angel) interrupted Daniels Prayer (Daniel 9:1-23) who gave him the Prophecies of God..verses 24-27.
Daniel 9 is all about the people of Israel and Jerusalem then and in the future.
The prophecies of Daniel (through Gabriel) are not of his Timeline but our Timeline.
Dan 9:24 “A period of seventy sets of seven has been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish their rebellion, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
Now the Most Holy Place here, is the Holy of Holies am I right? If so then this may end up talking of Dan. 8 as well.
The 70 sets of 7 equal to 490 years or 173,880 days. This paragraph (verse 24) will set the stage for the following three verses.
and it also tells us[ just WHEN will these things happen.
To this day some 2500 years after Daniel speaks these words; Have any of them come true:
have any of the rebellions (Jewish against God) stopped? NO. Preterist argue this happened in 70AD
Has there been an end to all sins of the Israel/world? NO. Preterist argue this happened in 70AD
Israel atoned for their sins? NO Here one can make the argument that Jesus's death and resurrection atone for the sins
To bring in everlasting Righteousness? NO Not yet but Preterist will argue this is happening today.
To confirm Prophetic vision? NO Have we seen the AoD yet and No it did not happen in 70AD
To annoint the Most Holy Place? NO
To end verse 24; after 2400 years these prophecies have not happened to the People of Israel or Jerusalem. Thus this verse sets the terms of the next three to be in the future of today.
The Most Holy of Holies is indeed the place where God could come down to be among his people. While he can not stand sin, the Holy of Holies had a veil separating it from the rest of the temple.Only the High priest can go into the Holy of Holies once per year in preparation of the "Day of Atonement".
DC as far as Daniel 8 goes, it is about the Ram and Goat or commonly know as Alexander's amazing life. Chapters 2 thru 7 were written in Aramaic (Times of the Gentiles) and Chapters 8 through 12 are Hebrew with the attention to Israel and her people.
Here goes. Some of this is going to be me just thinking in print. So please if you find I am wrong, or just over looked something, let me know.
When one looks at Dan. 8, We find
Dan 8:14 The other replied, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the Temple will be made right again.”
As the wording is evenings and mornings, this indicate that it talking of one day, and a day for a year. Give that we find around 6 1/2 years. This in my mind points to Antiochus III. As I am sure that Josephus gives more time that that for his rain over Jerusalem. Though if memory serves, (most of the time it doesn't) The Maccabees, fought for 6 1/2 years to free Jerusalem, and to cleans the Temple. This is where we get
Hanukkah from. A feast I do my best to observe. As it is a reminder of just Great HaShem really is.
Side note. If any oe doesn't know about Hanukkah,, it is the feast of lights, it reminds us of how they only had enough oil to light the menorah for one day. they decided to light it anyway, and the oil lasted for 8 days. Just goes to show you what He can do if we simply take a small steep to do as He as asked us.
Now as for Dan. 9:4. We seem to see that much the same way, just thing we don't. bringing an end to sin, and atoning for their guilt, to me, was speaking of their rebellion before being taken into Babylon. Though I can understand it both ways. Leaving me to think that it may be talking of both then, and the end times. As I have found that some prophecy does have 2 fulfillments.
I am still a bit lost on 25 however. If one counts the time they went into captivity, until Artaxerxes, then that would come to around 90-110 years. Being as HaShem said it be only 70, we must conclude that it was the order given by Cyrus. Although one can argue that Cyrus put an end to their captivity, and the order given by Artaxerxes, started the count down for the 70 weeks. Haven seen this argument in the past, I place no creedants in it what so ever. As it attempts to give 70 years for captivity, and then 70 years to rebuild.
When we come to 26,the only thing we differ on, is Rome. I simply can't see Rome bring peace of any kind, as they are even more hatted by Islam than Israel. I know that is hard to see, as they do seem to be buds. Yet we must keep in mind the crusades. Islam has made it clear they have not.
One thing does have me bit at odds with what you say about the passages in Luke 21, and Mat. 24, is that you attribute separate meanings for the same prophecy. Granted the wording may a bit different in both, yet they come from the same place and time. Both depict the same thought, and meaning. In my mind, (and yes I know I can be wrong) it would be about the same as taking the meaning of say Mat5:17-19 from the KJ, and then with the same passage, change it's meaning as we move to say the CJB. It can be done, yes. It shouldn't be done, yet I know that some people pick the translation they use, due oly to how it is worded. They start out with KJ, then read from the NIV, and finish with yet another.
Don't get me wrong I have something like 17 translations that I use at times. If a passage just doesn't ring true to me, (Meaning it seems to have been mistranslated) I will look through every translation I can get my hands on, seek out the different wording, then set about finding a way to reconcile them. As is my habit, I turn to the Hebrew, rather than Greek. As I do follow the idea that the parts of the NT that were written for the Hebrew people, was written in Hebrew, then translated into Greek by Luke.
This comes down to one simple question. How can you reconcile 2 interpretations of the same thought? As I pointed out in one other post,
Rev.12:6 And the women fled into the wilderness, where HaShem had perpared a place for her for 1260 days.
This does seem in my mind to fit so well with both Daniel and Yeshua.
I understand replacement theology all to well. My mom follows that, and has lead to some rather hotly debated interpretations on both our parts. She also follows Dispensationalism of a kind. My reason for saying of a kind, is that they teach all prophecy has taken place, and that every prophecy was set a side for one nation, and only that nation. That may well be what has lead to my confusion when I study prophecy.
As we move into 27, I once more find my self asking if you are giving separate values to the same thing. It seems to me that you give the word HE in 26 the value of Rome, then in 27 you place it in the future, hens mandating that it have the value of Islam. I may be miss understanding you, if so forgive me.
I have always placed Dan.9:27 in conjunction with Rev. 13. At lest to some extent. Just as I have always looked at Dan. and Rev. as being much the same prophecy, just looked at from different times. That is why Dan. 7 give the beast in one order, and Rev. gives them in the opposite order. This refect that John was looking back at time, and Daniel was looking foreword.
Yet it does not in my mind set the stage for the He as used in 26 and 27, to be given different values.
I do hope I haven't talked myself in a cereal. My day is kind of nuts, and my cat isn't helping me with this at all. He thikns he needs his petten right now, so I best give it to him, or he will not let me rest all night.
