JESUS CHRIST VS PROPHET MOHAMMAD

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Yeraza_Bats

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Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Muhammad completely denied the Father and the Son, and told his followers that Christ was just a "prophet of allah". He is very much an antichrist.

And also, yes Muhammad commanded to kill the unbelievers, to cut at their neck and finger tips, that they gained possession of all their belongings and wives, that a womans testimony is half a mans because shes mentally deficient, and that Muslims are to gather against the Jews and kill them. And he even hit his 9 year old wife. He was not a wonderful human being.

If you want to find a site that claims Muhammad was a beautiful human being, find a Muslim website, or a secular website that aims to prove to you how wonderful they are by being culturally diverse : p

(I know the member is banned)
 

notbythesword

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The Quran that has been assembled today, is the edited and revised edition that Uthman Ibn Affan approved for the followers of his Caliphate. You have to remember that there were varying translations in the Quran before Uthman came along and burned all Quranic texts except for his “approved” copy. I call today’s Quran the book of Uthman…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uthman

But putting aside the obvious errors, contradictions, and blatant plagiarisms that exist within Uthman’s Quran, as well as in the Hadith’s, there are many differences between Jesus and Mohammed. The first and probably the most prevalent being the difference in war booty and murder.

Jesus never killed anyone, nor did he demand payment from anyone. Mohammed on the other hand, had people executed (including those who wrote poetry against him) and after raiding caravans and other tribes, demanded a 20% cut of the war booty.

The funny thing is that Mohammed said that it was for himself and Allah…guess the God of Mohammed has need of material possessions. The Jesus of the Bible said that if one person had 2 shirts, give to another who has none…Luke 3:11

Jesus said that the greatest act that one could do is lay down one’s life for a friend. Mohammed said that the greatest act one could do is become a martyr in an act of jihad.

Jesus taught to love your neighbor as yourself. Mohammad taught that Jews and Christians were the worst of creatures.

Jesus said that He was the way, the truth, and the life. That He was the Son of God and died on a cross for the sins of mankind. No one can come to the Father except through Him. Mohammed taught that Allah has no sons and that Jesus did not die on the cross.

These are just a few of MANY differences and teachings between Jesus and Mohammed. Seems somewhat contradictory if they are supposedly both guided by the same God huh?
 

Roughsoul1991

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#44
I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.

ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.​
Why disagree so much with these Christians who's comments I have read over and over, their comments are biblical from the Bible. They know their stuff. You have to remember people hear can be born Christian, grow up Christian, and all the while attending church and freely learning from older Christians. With our access to the internet you can easily see all the differences between Jesus and Mohammad. Even more so we have access to freely study any religion. It's easy for us to pick up the quran and a Bible, lay them side to side and compare. I did this very thing once I learned Islam believed in Jesus. So I was curious why does the quran speaks of so much hate and violence when our Jesus speaks of love. At first I was like okay well there is many stories of Jesus not recorded in our bible but then things got really different. I was reading it and felt like this quran hates me.

I understand your family and friends are probably Muslim but you have to do what I did to test your beliefs. You must forget EVERYTHING you know and refilter everything through the Bible Word of God. The evil one can infiltrate our minds from toddler and we can believe lies as truth. This is why sometimes we must forget all we know and test everything through the truth of God's Word. Muslims are going to teach you what has been engrained into them from birth just like some Christians can teach nonsense because they have only had a child like education of religion. If you never dig deep in your religion how can you ever fight evil with the full truth? Dig deep and always question everything for biblical truth.

Your doing a great job especially knowing Jesus is God. But I would give more lead way to life long Christians who many of us has studied Islam and the quran to try and understand why the extremists want us dead. It's easy to see why once you read a small bit or a lot of the quran. It doesn't take long to feel the hate.
 
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Adstar

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#45
I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.

ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.​
Anyone who calls muhammad a prophet is not a Christian...
 
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JustWhoIAm

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#46
Anyone who calls muhammad a prophet is not a Christian...
The spirit of God IS the prophet.

This is why Muslims have problems understanding how Jesus could be God and not God at the same time.

God is Spirit, Paul was right.

As Christians we become our creator in Spirit, the living water.

Look at the true Christian and the fruit in their lives. That will tell you a lot. We ARE Jesus through the Spirit of God.

By Spirit, understand. Sanctified. One with our creator by faith, we know who we are ;)
 
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JustWhoIAm

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#47
They say that there are many antichrists. It is true.

There are many Christians. ^^
 
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Hibernianhunk

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#48
I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.

ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.​
I cannot understand why you have given Muhammad a title while giving no title to Jesus.
 
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Hibernianhunk

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#49
I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.

ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.​
There is no VERSUS. Jesus stands alone and His truth and salvation do not depend on comparing Him or His doctrine with another religion.
 
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Hibernianhunk

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#50
I am incline to start another post explaining between prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ which I believe a lot of you especially the westerners have misunderstood or mis-statement, probably blinded by the works of Satan.

Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. He married Aishah as his third and youngest wives when Aishah was six year old and had sex with her.Today, the muslims rape their daughters, nieces, sisters, girls at young age hoping that this act could purify them. This is absurd but its their belief, why judge them. I am very confident that God will not overlook this sin and will bring justice when time comes.

Just like in Christianity, there is protestant and catholic. Likewise, the muslim have sunni, (moderate ones) and shiite, (radical ones). In my country Malaysia, the government of the day are predominantly sunni muslims, followed by Buddist, Hinduism and Christianity while the shiite muslim together with other Buddist and Hinduism became the opposition. The sunni muslims are the ones that I am talking about being peaceful and loving. Just like protestants and catholics were called Christians so did the sunni and shiite, both are called muslims.

Here again, I wish to reiterate my earlier comment that the IS and all known terrorst, extremist that carried out merciless attack on Christians as well as muslims soil are individual muslims who have their own agenda. In order to get support for their agenda, they deceived their other muslims brotherhood with assurance that what they are doing is justice and holy. The muslim girls and women became their sexual partner beside those women captured by them. Couple of months ago, our newspaper carried a report on few muslim womens declaring that they would be willing to give their body to the muslims brotherhood in IS to satisfy their sexual urge. These women were immediately arrested by the police and charged in civil court for prostituting, which is illegal here as per civil law. My guess is that in order for them to escape being jailed, they will declare that they are muslims and therefore not under civil but syariah court, which enforce muslim laws.

Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. Not that Iam afraid but because it is against the rules and regulations in this chat which I respect whole heartedly.

Before I conclude, I wish to inform some of you here that by the way you response to thread, your words do reflect on you. Make sure you do these daily;
1) read at least 1 chapter of the bible.
2) pray.
3) memorize at least 1 important bible verse that will remind you instantly when you need to make a decision.

ALSO;
4) Join a church and go to sunday service weekly.
5) Join bible study weekly once.
6) Join cell group weekly.
God can assure if you do these you will see a different life. God Bless.​
In reality there is nothing to either understand or misunderstand. A person may know and understand Jesus without knowing or needing to know anything at all about Muhammad.
 
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Burninglight

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#51
Anyone who calls muhammad a prophet is not a Christian...
But he was a prophet of Islam. But anyone who says he was a universal prophet, then I would be more inclined to agree with you. Nominal Christians might believe that, but they would be in error and in danger of converting to Islam.
 
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Burninglight

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#52
In reality there is nothing to either understand or misunderstand. A person may know and understand Jesus without knowing or needing to know anything at all about Muhammad.
IMO, every Christians should learn how to reach Muslims. You cannot do that by not knowing anything about Muhammad, Islam or the Quran. Muslims are very sensitive on things said about Muhammad, and they can handle a lot more when speaking about Islam, Allah, Quran or the hadiths. There are lots of things in the Quran that agree with the gospels. that is a good starting point.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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IMO, every Christians should learn how to reach Muslims. You cannot do that by not knowing anything about Muhammad, Islam or the Quran. Muslims are very sensitive on things said about Muhammad, and they can handle a lot more when speaking about Islam, Allah, Quran or the hadiths. There are lots of things in the Quran that agree with the gospels. that is a good starting point.
I definitely agree, their faith is in a prophet who says the Gospel is false. So telling them Jesus died on the cross for their sins isnt much, when their faith is literally based on a prophet who said Jesus did not die on the cross for their sins, and that allah merely made a man on the cross look like Jesus, and merely raised Jesus into heaven without even dying.

Any Muslim whos educated in Islam will likely say that this is false. Thats the entire reason Muhammad came, according to their beliefs.
 
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one of the writers of the quaran, dictated by mohammed, actually said he thought mohammed was a false prophet

The Qur'an contains words by `Abdullah ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh

and also the op seems to be defending sunni and blaming shiite moslems, which is confusing cos isis grew out of sunni not shiite. so maybe things are different where he is, but on a global scale , we've had no terrorist attacks by shite moslems in uk, or eu as far as i am aware.
 
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Burninglight

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I definitely agree, their faith is in a prophet who says the Gospel is false. So telling them Jesus died on the cross for their sins isnt much, when their faith is literally based on a prophet who said Jesus did not die on the cross for their sins, and that allah merely made a man on the cross look like Jesus, and merely raised Jesus into heaven without even dying.

Any Muslim whos educated in Islam will likely say that this is false. Thats the entire reason Muhammad came, according to their beliefs.
The only thing is they will deny that Muhammad wrote that in the Quran; they believe God (Allah) said that exactly. In fact, Quran means recitation.

It is strange they call Muhammad the messenger of the Quran when it was a demon impersonating Gabriel that told Muhammad to recite what he heard; so, the real messenger was a demon. Muhammad only recited what he heard from a demon thinking that was Gabriel the angel.

Allah claims to be the best of deceivers in the Quran; and yes, he is; he got Muslims to believe the greatest lie in human history and that is that Jesus didn't die for our sins.
 
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Burninglight

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#56
one of the writers of the quaran, dictated by mohammed, actually said he thought mohammed was a false prophet

The Qur'an contains words by `Abdullah ibn Sa`d Ibn Abi Sarh

and also the op seems to be defending sunni and blaming shiite moslems, which is confusing cos isis grew out of sunni not shiite. so maybe things are different where he is, but on a global scale , we've had no terrorist attacks by shite moslems in uk, or eu as far as i am aware.
The difference between them is that the Sunni believe in the hadith to supplement understanding of the Quran, but there is also the Quranist who only believe in saying half of the shahdah to be Muslim. They consider the part where they say "Allah is one and Muhammad is his messenger" to be and association. They have a point and yet Sunni Muslims hypocritically accuse Christians of association Jesus to God. We associate Jesus to God as His word. That is not an idolatrous association, but the second part of the shahadah is!
 
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Burninglight

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#57
I cannot understand why you have given Muhammad a title while giving no title to Jesus.
But Christ is a title! I cannot understand why he writes with giant shouting letters it is annoying.
 
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Burninglight

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#58


Firstly, the prophet Mohammad that I came to know about was a messenger of God. He was NOT God. Kindly take note that there is a difference between a messenger and God himself.

Secondly, according to what I've learned and validated with my muslim friends, prophet Muhammad was NOT a murderer as claimed by some westerners. Actually, he was only a pedophilia, not terrorist or extremist. ​
First of all, Muhammad was not a messenger or prophet of God our Creator, second of the all, he wasn't a pedophile, but he did marry and have sex with his child bride. He married Aisha at six years of age. Thirdly, Muhammad was a terrorist; he even said that "God has made (me) him victorious through terror" in the hadith. Finally, why do you write in giant shouting letters? It is very annoying; we are not deaf!!! Your giant letters are almost as annoying as your ignorant comments.
 
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Burninglight

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#59
Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Muhammad completely denied the Father and the Son, and told his followers that Christ was just a "prophet of allah". He is very much an antichrist.

And also, yes Muhammad commanded to kill the unbelievers, to cut at their neck and finger tips, that they gained possession of all their belongings and wives, that a womans testimony is half a mans because shes mentally deficient, and that Muslims are to gather against the Jews and kill them. And he even hit his 9 year old wife. He was not a wonderful human being.

If you want to find a site that claims Muhammad was a beautiful human being, find a Muslim website, or a secular website that aims to prove to you how wonderful they are by being culturally diverse : p

(I know the member is banned)
Why was this member banned?
 
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Burninglight

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#60
Some of the chatters here in Christian Chat, commented and claimed that I am not a Christian and rather a muslim because of my defense on muslims. They tested me to see whether Iam what I said Iam. Some even ask me to proof to them. I am not going to do that and might start an argument with you later on. ​
If you call Muhammad a prophet of our God and Creator, I can understand why they would call you a Muslim, but the truth is you are not really defending Muslims, because you haven't accurately represented Islam or their prophet. Are you a Christian?

They ban people on here if they challenge people to a debate? It would be nice if Muslims came on here so we could debate with them. I don't think they would last long if people are so easily banned as you explained or maybe you're not representing this forum correctly.