Gun rights - for or against?
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I personally am all for them. Though it's sorta hard to judge who needs to have them and who doesn't. Obviously the phychos out there who abuse it and hurt or kill people have no business having them. I can onyl say i'm planning on getting a gun for my house for protection..lol. The world is too crazy not too.
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I would not trust myself with a loaded gun. I guess I have more of a fear of accidental shootings than I do of being shot by a crazed gunman. I suppose it depends on what a person is more frightened of- accidental shootings, or crazed gunmen.
The Capitol City policemen were at the ball practice and did a good job protecting the people there.
The Capitol City policemen were at the ball practice and did a good job protecting the people there.
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I find it very strange. I don't think I have been in a church with people with guns. I hope not. I hope very much that no one brought a gun inside the church I grew up in, it was not a place of fear. It was a place of peace and love. It bothers me to think of guns in church, and I personally would not attend one where people had guns in the church. It is incongruous to me. Of course I have no idea if anyone had a concealed weapon. I hope not.
I find that extremely sad, to think that you must bring a gun to church.
I find that extremely sad, to think that you must bring a gun to church.
With all due respect, you really ought to just go to a range and try a few firearms with a trusted friend. Maybe take a cheap course so you can learn how they work, how they don't work, how they are dismantled, etc.
You may or may not come away with a different opinion on public policy, but I can almost guarantee you wouldn't be afraid of the tools (and they are tools) themselves.
You may or may not come away with a different opinion on public policy, but I can almost guarantee you wouldn't be afraid of the tools (and they are tools) themselves.
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Yes, I know about illegal gun sales. Generally, though, these mass shootings were committed by people who bought guns legally. Usually, these shooters are not criminals until they go on their rampages.
My problem is assault weapons. There is no reason why a private citizen should own an automatic or semiautomatic weapon. Since posting in this thread, I realized that I also have a problem with people strapping on a gun and going where ever they like in public. This bothers me. I don't know how many Barney Fifes are out there who have GREAT intentions, but HORRIBLE judgment. I am mainly thinking about the Trayvon Martin shooting. Just because someone looks like they are shady or doing something shady, doesn't mean they are. I don't know, it is just bothersome to me to think people all around are armed.
I don't have a problem with guns in general, but I do have a problem with assault weapons and with carrying laws.
This is a good article about automatic and semiautomatic weapons and how crazed gunmen favor these weapons, also how Al and ISIS Qaeda has encouraged terrorists to buy them here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...g-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/
My problem is assault weapons. There is no reason why a private citizen should own an automatic or semiautomatic weapon. Since posting in this thread, I realized that I also have a problem with people strapping on a gun and going where ever they like in public. This bothers me. I don't know how many Barney Fifes are out there who have GREAT intentions, but HORRIBLE judgment. I am mainly thinking about the Trayvon Martin shooting. Just because someone looks like they are shady or doing something shady, doesn't mean they are. I don't know, it is just bothersome to me to think people all around are armed.
I don't have a problem with guns in general, but I do have a problem with assault weapons and with carrying laws.
This is a good article about automatic and semiautomatic weapons and how crazed gunmen favor these weapons, also how Al and ISIS Qaeda has encouraged terrorists to buy them here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...g-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/
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Well, I don't think I would feel any better about them. My mother dropped a loaded pistol in our house, it went off, grazed her toe and went through the dining room wall into the living room wall. Fortunately, on the other side of the wall was one of my bookshelves and the bullet hit the A encyclopedia which then flew off the shelf. My grandmother was in the path of that bullet. I can not forget something like that, I know there are responsible people with guns, but there are also many irresponsible people with guns. I would be scared to death I would accidentally shoot someone. It is not a responsibility that I want.
Maybe not 9, but there are revolvers that hold 8 rounds... even though most only hold 6. And there are speedloaders, that will reload a revolver in a matter of a couple of seconds for most people.... MUCH faster for someone who has trained extensively.
One of the most superb pistoleros alive today, Jerry Miculek, can shoot 6 rounds, do a reload, and shoot 6 more rounds ON TARGET in about 3 seconds. There are utube videos showing him doing just that. But, he's way exceptional.
One of the most superb pistoleros alive today, Jerry Miculek, can shoot 6 rounds, do a reload, and shoot 6 more rounds ON TARGET in about 3 seconds. There are utube videos showing him doing just that. But, he's way exceptional.
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That is okay. Perhaps they are not for you. But please do not judge too quickly those of us who grew up with guns, have target-practiced and hunted with guns, are not afraid of guns, are confident in knowing how to handle guns with out shooting anyone, etc.
The one thing you have going for you, however -- you seem to have a very healthy respect for guns and what they can do if not handled properly. If you ever get [ completely ] past the fear-factor, you will probably do fine with them. Why? Because that "healthy respect" is the beginning of 'wisdom' and the proper mindset in learning and knowing how to properly handle guns.
Having that respect is good. In fact, it is necessary. But, it must be balanced and tempered with control and confidence.
It is not "healthy" to be [ outright ] afraid of guns.
It is understandable -- you experienced something that was traumatic for you -- and, it has embedded 'scars'... However, those 'scars' can be healed and the fear can be overcome.
I believe that Desdichado's suggestion ( post #187 ) is a good one -- if you are inclined to work on getting beyond that fear. Find a friend you know and trust - who is confident in their handling of guns. Get them to teach you ( or, take a class ) about guns -- "up close and personal" -- i.e. - training that will actually let you handle some guns ( handgun, rifle, shotgun ) - unloaded, at first, of course - until you feel comfortable enough with them to then move on to actually shooting them.
In time, you should be able to overcome your fears...
I am not saying that it will make your fears vanish instantly. But, in time - and, with more handling and practice - your fears should fade away as you become more confident...
Kinda like driving a car.
What is the first thing you are told when learning how to drive a car?
"You better respect this thing -- if you are not careful, you could kill someone with it!"
Did that stop you from learning to drive a car?
The one thing you have going for you, however -- you seem to have a very healthy respect for guns and what they can do if not handled properly. If you ever get [ completely ] past the fear-factor, you will probably do fine with them. Why? Because that "healthy respect" is the beginning of 'wisdom' and the proper mindset in learning and knowing how to properly handle guns.
Having that respect is good. In fact, it is necessary. But, it must be balanced and tempered with control and confidence.
It is not "healthy" to be [ outright ] afraid of guns.
It is understandable -- you experienced something that was traumatic for you -- and, it has embedded 'scars'... However, those 'scars' can be healed and the fear can be overcome.
I believe that Desdichado's suggestion ( post #187 ) is a good one -- if you are inclined to work on getting beyond that fear. Find a friend you know and trust - who is confident in their handling of guns. Get them to teach you ( or, take a class ) about guns -- "up close and personal" -- i.e. - training that will actually let you handle some guns ( handgun, rifle, shotgun ) - unloaded, at first, of course - until you feel comfortable enough with them to then move on to actually shooting them.
In time, you should be able to overcome your fears...
I am not saying that it will make your fears vanish instantly. But, in time - and, with more handling and practice - your fears should fade away as you become more confident...
Kinda like driving a car.
What is the first thing you are told when learning how to drive a car?
"You better respect this thing -- if you are not careful, you could kill someone with it!"
Did that stop you from learning to drive a car?
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I think I am probably not communicating very well. The guns I am against anyone owning are semiautomatic and automatic weapons. I am not against gun ownership of regular guns.
I know people who own guns and hunt or keep them for defense purposes. It is just not for me, I do not trust myself to be responsible, and I would be as nervous as a cat if I had one on my person. It is just something I don't want to worry about. Also, I am concerned about people carrying them everywhere. I find that a little unsettling.
I know people who own guns and hunt or keep them for defense purposes. It is just not for me, I do not trust myself to be responsible, and I would be as nervous as a cat if I had one on my person. It is just something I don't want to worry about. Also, I am concerned about people carrying them everywhere. I find that a little unsettling.