Earth is Flat and Stationary

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graceNpeace

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Your government is dishonest and has been manipulating you into wars, condoning homosexuality, spreading Islam and minimizing Christianity, gang violence, spreading drugs, and destroying the youth's education and morals.

And with all this clearly going on, you think NASA is spreading the truth for the sake of good and the benefit of humanity. They are a beacon of light in a world of darkness.

Putting your faith in these men and rejecting anything or anyone (fellow Christians) that admonishes them is puzzling, sad, infuriating, and disgusting. I really hope it's your egos and insecurity that prevent you from accepting you have been lied to, rather than the blindness on faith.
You know Americans, like yourself, are sometimes so naive, and condescending!
You think (pun intended) that the world revolves around you and your lives alone.
Nobody needs NASA or the American government to know that the earth is NOT flat and that it is a sphere (roughly).
 
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pckts

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You know Americans, like yourself, are sometimes so naive, and condescending!
You think (pun intended) that the world revolves around you and your lives alone.
Nobody needs NASA or the American government to know that the earth is NOT flat and that it is a sphere (roughly).
I'm glad the condescending tone effected you. Do you realize we have a "globalized" government and that NASA controls the domain of space for the "planet"?

No, you are misguided in the fundamentals of our world.
 
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tanakh

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No-no-no, you are missing the important bit here: Who or what keeps eating it?!
Probably the same Person who cooks Pizzas on Venus. The cheese base must come from somewhere.
 
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pckts

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You know Americans, like yourself, are sometimes so naive, and condescending!
You think (pun intended) that the world revolves around you and your lives alone.
Nobody needs NASA or the American government to know that the earth is NOT flat and that it is a sphere (roughly).
Your government is dishonest and has been manipulating you into wars, condoning homosexuality, spreading Islam and minimizing Christianity, gang violence, spreading drugs, and destroying the youth's education and morals.
Do you believe it's a coincidence that all of this is also occurring in your neck of the woods?

Whatever dinky "space" program you have takes all direction and guidance from NASA, and anything NASA says or does is accepted with the same blind faith by the world as the yanks.

It's sad you decided to draw a line in the Atlantic over what I said.
 
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graceNpeace

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Do you believe it's a coincidence that all of this is also occurring in your neck of the woods?

Whatever dinky "space" program you have takes all direction and guidance from NASA, and anything NASA says or does is accepted with the same blind faith by the world as the yanks.

It's sad you decided to draw the line in the Atlantic over what I said.:confused::(
If you are stupid enough to believe that one needs a space program to know the earth is a sphere then the problem is all yours...
 
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pckts

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If you are stupid enough to believe that one needs a space program to know the earth is a sphere then the problem is all yours...
NASA purports the lie and keeps the show going with missions, releasing more details of "outer space", and hollywood productions and cartoon images for you to confirm your lies.

You need that space program and the controlled "scientific" community, not to "know" the earth is a sphere, but to deceive you further into believing it is.

I'm aware of your pendulum and circular reasoning confirming numbers and data handed to you by aforementioned controlled scientific community. You need a deceptive space agency and corrupt government to "confirm" to you that data is not a lie by giving you the Hollywood productions and cartoon images. Your beliefs began in the 1600's when occultists told peasants the earth was round and they accepted it on faith like you.
 
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Today's scientists do not conduct real experiments, they give you Hollywood productions and cartoon images. They provided you with equation after equation not based in reality, and build the structure of the globe earth model and outer space for you.

You look at equations that confirm your false models. That is your evidence. You look at CGI, special effects, and altered videos and images. Those are your experiments.
 

tanakh

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You're mocking someone who is telling you the opposite of what God's enemy tells you.








Why are the times different for these 2 flights to places on the same longitude? 13 hours vs. 33 hours.


When I posted this scripture and world view, someone who I won't name mocked me and said the world was a corkscrew.
Psalm 93:1
The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved

1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.


The Copernican (Heliocentric) Model:
- The stars are immovable – their apparent daily motion is caused by the daily rotation of Earth
- Earth is moved in a sphere around the Sun, causing the apparent annual migration of the Sun. Earth has more than one motion
- Earth’s orbital motion around the Sun causes the seeming reverse in direction of the motions of the planets

https://www.universetoday.com/33113/heliocentric-model/



God's scripture is the complete opposite of the deception/NASA world view.



I believe this is all that needs to be said. Unless you choose to mock.

People took the earth being round for granted long before NASA was even dreamed of. You quote verses from the Bible and disregard the fact that there are many different types of literature used. Poetry being one of them. Also that the Bible is not meant to be a Scientific textbook. Many people twist what the Bible says to defend their particular obsessions.
 

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People took the earth being round for granted long before NASA was even dreamed of. You quote verses from the Bible and disregard the fact that there are many different types of literature used. Poetry being one of them. Also that the Bible is not meant to be a Scientific textbook. Many people twist what the Bible says to defend their particular obsessions.
God never supplied Israel with funding to set up scientific research centers. We aren't here to live by science, or justify our beliefs with it.
 

tanakh

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One thing you can be certain of is that Satan is not stupid. If he intends to deceive people big time the last thing he will do is arrange for Photographs of the Earth to be seen that are all different and to give an organisation an acronym that means Deception in Hebrew. As far as the Photographs how does one know that they are falsified? Photoshop can let you do incredible things, and there are people who will do anything to ''prove'' their own viewpoint. Even alter the Bible as the JWs did.
 

tanakh

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God never supplied Israel with funding to set up scientific research centers. We aren't here to live by science, or justify our beliefs with it.
Did he set up funding for them to build Nuclear Weapons? But then thats for another Forum
 

tanakh

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NASA purports the lie and keeps the show going with missions, releasing more details of "outer space", and hollywood productions and cartoon images for you to confirm your lies.

You need that space program and the controlled "scientific" community, not to "know" the earth is a sphere, but to deceive you further into believing it is.

I'm aware of your pendulum and circular reasoning confirming numbers and data handed to you by aforementioned controlled scientific community. You need a deceptive space agency and corrupt government to "confirm" to you that data is not a lie by giving you the Hollywood productions and cartoon images. Your beliefs began in the 1600's when occultists told peasants the earth was round and they accepted it on faith like you.
The main purpose of NASA's existence is for military and communications. When it comes to Government funding Space exploration takes third place that is one reason there hasn't been any more Moon landings for Decades. To believe that NASA is there just to fool people into believing what most have believed for Centuries is just one conspiracy theory too far.
 
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A question based upon math.....

If star A is 20 light years from earth and the earth is stationary then star A must revolve around the earth each 24 hour period right?

SO...that means the circumference of the circle would be 40(diameter) light years X 3.14159

so...186,000/second X 60 seconds X 60 minutes X 24 hours X 365 days X 20 years X 2 (to get diameter) X 3.14159 would equal the circumference that the stars must travel each night to make one revolution around a stationary earth.

Things to note.....in order for the stars to stay stationary (such a the North star) and or the constellations then each star that is farther out must travel at a higher rate of speed to maintain it's position in the heavens.....

The math is almost beyond believable.....the rate of speed that star A above must maintain to revolve 1 time around a stationary flat earth in a 24 hour period would exceed the speed of light itself by about 1911 times.....

Circumference of Star A

737,104,475,865,600 miles divided by 24 hours = 30,712,686,494,400 miles an hour

30,712,686,494,400 miles an hour divided by 86,400 seconds in a day = 355,470,908.5 miles a second divided by the speed of light which is 186,000 miles a second.....

355,470,908.5 divided by 186,000 miles a second =1,911 times.......

Imagine how fast the stars must be traveling in order to rotate 1 time around a stationary flat earth in 1 24 hour period....

SOMEONE help this make sense!
 
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Huckleberry

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Here is another bit of life changing news I have recently read
The surface temperature on Venus is so high that it would only take seven seconds to cook a Pizza
That would be a huge entrepunurial opportunity except for the fact that Venus has no moon.
 

posthuman

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I'm glad the condescending tone effected you. Do you realize we have a "globalized" government and that NASA controls the domain of space for the "planet"?

No, you are misguided in the fundamentals of our world.

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posthuman

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Today's ̶s̶c̶i̶e̶n̶t̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ flat-earth-apostles do not conduct real experiments, they give you Hollywood productions and cartoon images.
well that's certainly true of today's conspiracy theorists.

i can't seem to get a single one of you to do the simplest scientific inquiry such as observing a sunrise or sunset.
 
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pckts

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A question based upon math.....

If star A is 20 light years from earth and the earth is stationary then star A must revolve around the earth each 24 hour period right?

SO...that means the circumference of the circle would be 40(diameter) light years X 3.14159

so...186,000/second X 60 seconds X 60 minutes X 24 hours X 365 days X 20 years X 2 (to get diameter) X 3.14159 would equal the circumference that the stars must travel each night to make one revolution around a stationary earth.

Things to note.....in order for the stars to stay stationary (such a the North star) and or the constellations then each star that is farther out must travel at a higher rate of speed to maintain it's position in the heavens.....

The math is almost beyond believable.....the rate of speed that star A above must maintain to revolve 1 time around a stationary flat earth in a 24 hour period would exceed the speed of light itself by about 1911 times.....

Circumference of Star A

737,104,475,865,600 miles divided by 24 hours = 30,712,686,494,400 miles an hour

30,712,686,494,400 miles an hour divided by 86,400 seconds in a day = 355,470,908.5 miles a second divided by the speed of light which is 186,000 miles a second.....

355,470,908.5 divided by 186,000 miles a second =1,911 times.......

Imagine how fast the stars must be traveling in order to rotate 1 time around a stationary flat earth in 1 24 hour period....

SOMEONE help this make sense!
"light years". That's a lie of your false model, and you apply it to the flat earth model, something that does not use "light years", and then dismiss it. Are you this dense?

Let me do the same: If earth A is stationary, how could it revolve around the sun?

SOMEONE help this make sense!

Do your little equations that prove a false model that doesn't correlate to the reality you live, instead of observing your videos and images are fake and the lack of curvature in the weather balloons videos I post. You will always be able to prove the false globe earth model is correct using the equations the liars supply you with.

I really expect more from you, I thought you understood how ridiculous it is to apply the different functioning parts of your model "light years" to the flat earth and dismiss it because they don't work."

The stars aren't "light years" away, and "light years away" isn't real either. I thought you understood the flat earth model works entirely differently, but I guess you really don't even know fundamentally what you are dismissing.

A model that operates entirely different from yours.
 
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pottersclay

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He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters,
At the boundary of light and darkness.


Astronomy.
  • the small circle of the celestial sphere whose plane is tangent to the earth atthe position of a given observer, or the plane of such a circle (sensiblehorizon)
  • Also called rational horizon. the great circle of the celestial sphere whoseplane passes through the center of the earth and is parallel to the sensible horizon of a given position, or the plane of such a circle (celestial horizon)
 
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pckts

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well that's certainly true of today's conspiracy theorists.

i can't seem to get a single one of you to do the simplest scientific inquiry such as observing a sunrise or sunset.
I can't get a single one of you to comment on Chinese space program videos, weather balloon videos, and the flight path data maps made in the 40's.

As I've told you before, I am closed-minded on this subject and I'm not going to look at your lies and waste my time explaining to you why you are wrong. All flat earthers eventually give up on people who are defending cartoons, hollywood productions, and apply equations supplied to you by the liars to prove their lie is correct while neither correlate to the world you actually live in.

Stop commenting on flat earth boards.
 
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pottersclay

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It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in