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According to the ten commandments, Yes. What we have to consider is the following:

1) Did Jesus keep the Sabbath (to the last letter)? Yes he did.
2) Whenever Jesus gave a teaching about the Sabbath he was speaking to the Pharisees who was trying to accuse Jesus with false accusations.
3) Why if we are followers of Christ are we trying to pick and choose what we want to do/or not? He was the perfect example and we know we will not be perfect but we can try moving in that direction.

The Jews kept the Talmud which is their own version of staying out of trouble/sin. If I can try to make it relevant to today:

The speed limit on our freeways is 120km/h. What the Jews did was saying we know if we get to 115km/h the spedo could be miss calibrated so we are going to drive 60km/h, never thinking of the other dangers they are creating. That is their safety zone. They moved the boundaries and according to them this was the new standards/law. We can't move God's standards and try to argue about sin. Jesus said we should leave that to him. I try to keep the Sabbath because that is what Jesus did and my Bible teach me that. We can argue back and forth but God never changed since the first second He started with His creation (us included). So if He teach us in the OT to keep the Sabbath, we can do it without judgment. If you feel for some reason God has given you the vision not to do so, it is between you and God and who am I to judge?

If you ask me about it I will give you the Biblical truth:
1) Jesus kept the Sabbath and never ever broke the Torah / Law
2) God never change
3) He told Moses and Israel to do so
4) We will become part of Israel so it is relevant to us
5) Jesus said, keep my commandments. Hosea 4 warns us to keep God's commandments and do not create our own days to honour Him.
Totally agree with you ! I think to some extent Being told by God what to do is a question of OBEDIENCE ! JESUS tho He were a Son had to learn obedience to the Father...and we have to be obedient to Jesus....ORDER comes from the Top down.
Does Jesus .command/tell us to obey Him ? not in so many 'words' - but more by His 'actions'. His Father spent thousands of years 'telling/commanding people to obey' without results. Why would Jesus continue in the same way just 'telling' us to obey...it would be a waste of time , for it has already been shown that this tactic does not work with man....so -
Jesus is SHOWING us by His ACTIONS to be obedient to the Father and thus kept the Commandments including the Sabbath !!! WE are to copy Him if we want to be 'conformed to HIS image' !
'This total submission' some are still fighting by following 'their own understanding and are consequently still in DISobedience, dead in tresspass and sin Eph2....that is GOD telling them their state, not us. They need to start HEARING GOD and stop fighting us who have already become obedient.
 

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in that case why we not doing animali sacrifice

Jesus is circumcised, we not

paul Said sabbath is only shadow of Jesus.
True. The Hebrew word sabat means "to rest or stop or cease from work." Jesus is our Sabbath rest. He fulfilled the law and if we could have done it there would have been no need for Him, and yet He was purposed from before the foundation of the world. Acts 15 makes these points clear.

Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

[SUP]6 [/SUP]The apostles and elders met to consider this question.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

[SUP]11 [/SUP]No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
 
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According to the ten commandments, Yes. What we have to consider is the following:

1) Did Jesus keep the Sabbath (to the last letter)? Yes he did.
2) Whenever Jesus gave a teaching about the Sabbath he was speaking to the Pharisees who was trying to accuse Jesus with false accusations.
3) Why if we are followers of Christ are we trying to pick and choose what we want to do/or not? He was the perfect example and we know we will not be perfect but we can try moving in that direction.

The Jews kept the Talmud which is their own version of staying out of trouble/sin. If I can try to make it relevant to today:

The speed limit on our freeways is 120km/h. What the Jews did was saying we know if we get to 115km/h the spedo could be miss calibrated so we are going to drive 60km/h, never thinking of the other dangers they are creating. That is their safety zone. They moved the boundaries and according to them this was the new standards/law. We can't move God's standards and try to argue about sin. Jesus said we should leave that to him. I try to keep the Sabbath because that is what Jesus did and my Bible teach me that. We can argue back and forth but God never changed since the first second He started with His creation (us included). So if He teach us in the OT to keep the Sabbath, we can do it without judgment. If you feel for some reason God has given you the vision not to do so, it is between you and God and who am I to judge?

If you ask me about it I will give you the Biblical truth:
1) Jesus kept the Sabbath and never ever broke the Torah / Law
2) God never change
3) He told Moses and Israel to do so
4) We will become part of Israel so it is relevant to us
5) Jesus said, keep my commandments. Hosea 4 warns us to keep God's commandments and do not create our own days to honour Him.
Jesus also told a man that was healed to go show himself to the priest. That was a commandment of God in the Old Testament as well. Do we do that today? Of course not. That is a commandment ion the law that Jesus kept. Why don't we do it now?

Jesus also told the rich young ruler when he came and asked Jesus "What must "I do" to inherit eternal life?" Jesus gave him the law - keep the commandments.

Jesus did this to expose the fact that this rich guy had actually broken the 1st commandment and had money as his true "god". The law had done it's job and exposed his need for a Savior.

Do we tell people today to keep the law to inherit eternal life? Of course not - well maybe Judaziers say to do it but we know that is a perversion of the gospel of the grace of God.

What do we tell people in the New Covenant?

Acts 16:30-31 (NASB)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

[SUP]31 [/SUP] They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

To say that Christians are sinning and not obeying God because they do not follow the Old Testament way of observing the Sabbath is in fact a Judaizing spirit that perverts the gospel of the grace of God.

People are free in Christ to do as they seem fit for their own consciences but once Judaizers come in to pervert the gospel - they will be vehemently stood against. Telling Christians that they are sinning and dis-obeying God because they don't follow the Old Testament way of observing the Sabbath - is a Judaizer in action - no doubt about it.

Judaizers need to keep the whole law and start stoning people for not observing the Sabbath as outlined in the law. If we are to "keep" all of the commandments of God - then get the stones ready or be guilty of breaking the whole law.

If we really want to keep the Sabbath holy and not break it - observe the real thing and not the shadow. The real thing is Christ Himself. He alone is our true Sabbath rest.
 
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in that case why we not doing animali sacrifice

Jesus is circumcised, we not

paul Said sabbath is only shadow of Jesus.
Paul said that the weekly Sabbath was only a shadow of things in the future.
 
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Totally agree with you ! I think to some extent Being told by God what to do is a question of OBEDIENCE ! JESUS tho He were a Son had to learn obedience to the Father...and we have to be obedient to Jesus....ORDER comes from the Top down.
Does Jesus .command/tell us to obey Him ? not in so many 'words' - but more by His 'actions'. His Father spent thousands of years 'telling/commanding people to obey' without results. Why would Jesus continue in the same way just 'telling' us to obey...it would be a waste of time , for it has already been shown that this tactic does not work with man....so -
Jesus is SHOWING us by His ACTIONS to be obedient to the Father and thus kept the Commandments including the Sabbath !!! WE are to copy Him if we want to be 'conformed to HIS image' !
'This total submission' some are still fighting by following 'their own understanding and are consequently still in DISobedience, dead in tresspass and sin Eph2....that is GOD telling them their state, not us. They need to start HEARING GOD and stop fighting us who have already become obedient.
None one here in this thread "keeps" the law. Not one! All of them break the law every day. I love how people water down the law and partial it out so that it can have the "appearance" of following it.

I encourage you to stop replacing Christ with the law. Christ alone is our true Sabbath rest. In saying that - you are free in Christ to observe it as you like.

Once you start with this garbage that "you Sabbath keepers" as in outlined in the law are being obedient and real Christians are not. That's when the perversion comes in and you will have Christians come against this Judaizing spirit.
 
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Yes, you were asked a straight question and came back with your classic tactics of obfuscation and misdirection...
Hello graceNpeace my good friend,

How was your day today? I am tired just finishing up work. I find reading your post above very interesting. Seems you really did not understand the meaning behind those questions I asked. It is not any tactic of obfuscation or misdirection as you say. It is all on topic. It is asking what you think these scriptures mean. Did you know those questions are really scriptures that are found in the Bible? If you ask God he will help you to know the meaning of them.

God bless you.
 
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Good day! My goodness you would make a "Philadelphia lawyer " proud. So, is it a sin for a Christian not to follow the Old testament way of the Sabbath? Yes or no? This is only the 8th time that you have avoided the question. Yes or no my friend. Be honest with us.
Hello Grace777,

Seems like you did not answer my questions so neither do I answer yours. You do know very well that if you answered my questions (Which are just God’s Word) they answer your questions. So let’s cut to the chase and let God be your judge. What you do is between you and God not me and you. Do you believe God’s Word?

God bless you
 
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I don't like deceitfulness like this. This is only the 8th time that this question has been skirted.
We know the reason why - If they say that a Christian needs to be following the Sabbath as in the Old Testament way or they are dis-obeying God and sinning - then they will be seen for being the Judaizer that they truly are. Judaizers are those that try to get Christians to follow the law and thus are exchanging Christ Himself and His finished work for following the law. These are perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ and Paul said that he wouldn't stand for this for even one hour - "so that" the truth of the gospel would remain with the Galatians.
Hello Grace777 my friend,

There has been no deceitfulness on my part. Let God be the judge between us. I judge no man. Tell me what I have done to be deceitful and if the Word of God judges between us why do you not believe it? I have answered all your questions with God’s Word. The answers are in God’s Word. If you cannot understand what God’s Word says go and pray like the faithful Bereans and ask Jesus. God knows that the rest of your post above has no basis in fact whatsoever and is quite disappointing. God’s Sheep hear His Voice…

God bless you
 
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Question: "Who were the Judaizers?"

Answer: There have always been those who balk at the idea of God’s salvation being offered freely to those who believe. They reason that such a grand gift as forgiveness from such a holy God must require some kind of payment from us. We thank God for His grace, but we understand that He expects us to somehow earn that grace—in other words, there must be something that we can do to pay off the debt we owe to God.

In the early church, those who taught a combination of God’s grace and human effort were called “Judaizers.” The word Judaizer comes from a Greek verb meaning “to live according to Jewish customs.” The word appears in
Galatians 2:14 where Paul describes how he confronted Peter for forcing Gentile Christians to “Judaize.”

A Judaizer taught that, in order for a Christian to truly be right with God, he must conform to the Mosaic Law. Circumcision, especially, was promoted as necessary for salvation. Gentiles had to become Jewish proselytes first, and then they could come to Christ.

The doctrine of the Judaizers was a mixture of grace (through Christ) and works (through the keeping of the Law). This false doctrine was dealt with in
Acts 15 and strongly condemned in the book of Galatians.

At the Jerusalem Council in
Acts 15, a group of Judaizers opposed Paul and Barnabas. Some men who belonged to the party of the Pharisees insisted that Gentiles could not be saved unless they were first circumcised and obeyed the Law of Moses.

Paul made the case that, in Christ, there was no longer any distinction between Jew and Gentile, for God had purified the hearts of the Gentiles by faith (
Acts 15:8–9). He said it plainly in Galatians 2:16: “A man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.”

To add anything to the work that Christ did for salvation is to negate God’s grace. We are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, not by returning to the Law. “I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing” (
Galatians 2:21).

There are many groups today with beliefs/practices very similar to the Judaizers of the New Testament. The two most prominent would be the
Hebrew Roots Movement and the Roman Catholic Church. The teachings of the Hebrew Roots Movement are virtually identical to those of the Judaizers whom Paul rebuked in Galatians. A primary focus of the Hebrew Roots Movement is to put followers of Christ back under the bondage of the Old Testament Law.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches a doctrine similar to that of the Judaizers of the New Testament in this way: its doctrine is a mixture of law and grace. At the Council of Trent in the 16th century, the Catholic Church explicitly denied the idea of salvation by faith alone.

Catholics have always held that certain sacraments are necessary for salvation. The issues for the 1st-century Judaizers were circumcision and Sabbath-keeping.

The issues for modern-day Catholics are baptism, confession, etc. The works considered necessary may have changed, but both Judaizers and Catholics attempt to merit God’s grace through the performance of ritualistic acts.

First Timothy 4:3 says that, in later times, false teachers will “forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.” This sounds suspiciously close to some of the teachings of Roman Catholicism, which requires priests to be celibate (“forbidding to marry”) and proclaims some food to be off-limits during Lent (“abstaining from certain foods”).

The Judaizers upheld the Mosaic Law as necessary for salvation; Catholics uphold man-made tradition as necessary; both view Christ’s death as being insufficient without the active and continued cooperation of the one being saved.

The Bible is clear that the attempt to add human works to God’s grace overlooks the very meaning of grace, which is “undeserved blessing.” As Paul says, “If by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace” (
Romans 11:6). Praise the Lord, “Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery” (Galatians 5:1).

https://gotquestions.org/Judaizers.html


I do not look at all Hebrew Roots adherents or Sabbath Keepers as all the same. As I have said before - there are many that are of authentic Jewish descent and they like their traditions but they do not say that others need to observe the Sabbath or feasts as in the law of Moses or you are dis-obeying God and sinning. They observe these things to see Christ as the fulfillment of them - not as something they "need" to do now.

This group has excellent teachings on how Christ has fulfilled the Law and show Christ in every part of the Old Testament - including that Jesus alone is our true Sabbath rest. Jesus said that all the scriptures speak about Him.

This group of believers are a major blessing to us in the body of Christ and are not Judaizers such as Paul encountered and that are also in the extreme sects of Hebrew Roots and Sabbath Keepers that say believers in Christ must "observe the Sabbath and the feasts like in the law of Moses - or they are dis-obeying God and sinning".

Those - run away from as fast as you can and these are Judaizers! - but do not put all Hebrew Roots people and those that observe the Sabbath from Friday to Saturday in the same boat as the extreme sects because they are not the same.
 

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Totally agree with you ! I think to some extent Being told by God what to do is a question of OBEDIENCE ! JESUS tho He were a Son had to learn obedience to the Father...and we have to be obedient to Jesus....ORDER comes from the Top down.
Does Jesus .command/tell us to obey Him ? not in so many 'words' - but more by His 'actions'. His Father spent thousands of years 'telling/commanding people to obey' without results. Why would Jesus continue in the same way just 'telling' us to obey...it would be a waste of time , for it has already been shown that this tactic does not work with man....so -
Jesus is SHOWING us by His ACTIONS to be obedient to the Father and thus kept the Commandments including the Sabbath !!! WE are to copy Him if we want to be 'conformed to HIS image' !
'This total submission' some are still fighting by following 'their own understanding and are consequently still in DISobedience, dead in tresspass and sin Eph2....that is GOD telling them their state, not us. They need to start HEARING GOD and stop fighting us who have already become obedient.
You remind me of the publican.
 
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Hello Grace777 my friend,

There has been no deceitfulness on my part. Let God be the judge between us. I judge no man. Tell me what I have done to be deceitful and if the Word of God judges between us why do you not believe it? I have answered all your questions with God’s Word. The answers are in God’s Word. If you cannot understand what God’s Word says go and pray like the faithful Bereans and ask Jesus. God knows that the rest of your post above has no basis in fact whatsoever and is quite disappointing. God’s Sheep hear His Voice…

God bless you
You have in fact been deceitful from the start and have not answered the question despite many attempts to get you to be truthful. It's a yes or no answer - not your continued deflection from telling the truth.

Now can you please be truthful and answer the question and stop being so deceitful? You are entitled to your own opinion but stop this deceitful behavior and be honest. Thank you.

I told you before - that I don't fall for your spiritual manipulation attempts to say "Why don't I believe God's word? and other such nonsense because it doesn't line up with your perversion of the gospel of the graced of God in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection.

Your Judaizing attempts will be met by many Christians "so that" the truth of the gospel would remain with us Christians - just like Paul did.

Paul said that he did not stand for the Judaizers message for one hour so that the truth would remain with them. Gal. 2:5

Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.

The Lord has blessed you too my friend.

 

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None one here in this thread "keeps" the law. Not one! All of them break the law every day. I love how people water down the law and partial it out so that it can have the "appearance" of following it.

I encourage you to stop replacing Christ with the law. Christ alone is our true Sabbath rest. In saying that - you are free in Christ to observe it as you like.

Once you start with this garbage that "you Sabbath keepers" as in outlined in the law are being obedient and real Christians are not. That's when the perversion comes in and you will have Christians come against this Judaizing spirit.
Moreover, if Sabbath-keeping was SO central to being a Christian it would be inconceivable that the Apostles would NOT make this unambiguously clear!
Instead the opposite happens!
If Sabbath-keeping was so central then given the issues (observance of Mosaic law) dealt with by the council in Jerusalem they would definitely have made mention of it (Acts chapter 15).
Nothing of the sort happens, instead Peter says this:

10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ[a] we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”Acts 15:10-11

The yoke was the law and every aspect of it!

Furthermore once the decisions had been made as to how to instruct believers they composed a letter the contents of which are this:
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[g] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Acts 15:28-29

No mention of Sabbath-keeping, nil, nix, nada!
And since the initial command to observe the Sabbath comes to Moses in Exodus it is part of the law of Moses.
The Council of Jerusalem confirmed unequivocally that the demands of the law of Moses are no longer binding on believers!



 

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Well the calendars have been changed so many times. What are the chances that Saturday-only people are actually worshipping on Sunday? :eek: :p

As Romans says, let each be fully convinced in his own mind, especially concerning the day of worship, whether it be a Saturday or a Sunday. But most believers do worship God and fellowship throughout the week, not just one specific day each week.

The problem is when some become legalistic and start making it a requirement for salvation. Many who attend an SDA (Seventh Day adventist church) believe that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast, and therefore they believe that all who attend church on a Sunday are going to hell because they've (unknowingly) accepted this mark. Some (not all) even judge other believers of sinning because they don't keep the Saturday sabbath.

Jesus is our Sabbath rest. Only Jesus satisfies the requirements of the Law, and provided the sacrifice that atones for sin. He's God's plan for us to cease from the labor of our works.

Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that our eternal destination is dependent on us keeping the Sabbath as a Holy day. I know that many religious people, particularly catholics, are strict with their attendance, without fail, because they really believe it plays a part in salvation. This is just another example of men trying to add to the finished work of Jesus.


Romans 14:1-13:

"Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way
 
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Moreover, if Sabbath-keeping was SO central to being a Christian it would be inconceivable that the Apostles would NOT make this unambiguously clear!
Instead the opposite happens!
If Sabbath-keeping was so central then given the issues (observance of Mosaic law) dealt with by the council in Jerusalem they would definitely have made mention of it (Acts chapter 15).
Nothing of the sort happens, instead Peter says this:

10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ[a] we shall be saved in the same manner as they.”Acts 15:10-11

The yoke was the law and every aspect of it!

Furthermore once the decisions had been made as to how to instruct believers they composed a letter the contents of which are this:
28For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[g] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Acts 15:28-29

No mention of Sabbath-keeping, nil, nix, nada!
And since the initial command to observe the Sabbath comes to Moses in Exodus it is part of the law of Moses.
The Council of Jerusalem confirmed unequivocally that the demands of the law of Moses are no longer binding on believers!



Well said!

And that is why we stand vehemently against any Judaizing spirit that tries to get people back to the law for life and living. It is replacing Christ Himself and what He has already done for our own observance of a carnal law.

If we teach God's commandments as in the Old Covenant as a means to salvation we teach Legalism and a false gospel. It's purpose was to lead us to Christ Himself.

Going back to the Law for living after coming to Christ is committing spiritual adultery on our Lord Jesus Christ.





2 Cor 3:14-18 is saying that to this day people that read Moses which is the Old Covenant that has now been made obsolete - there is a veil that covers their eyes and they can't see the real substance which is Christ.

The Law is a mere shadow of the real thing. When we turn to the Lord - the veil is lifted and we can now behold the glory of the Lord as in a mirror and the Hoy Spirit transforms us. - not the keeping of Moses's law.

Going back to the Law for life and transformation is committing spiritual adultery on the Lord. Romans 7:1-6 - we have died to the Law so that we could be joined to another - our Lord Jesus.

Going back to the Law after coming to Christ is like a husband looking at the pictures that his wife sent to him before they were married - but now he is married to his wife and she wants him to be with "her" now - not him looking at her pictures.

The Law was merely a picture, a type of the reality which is Christ and He is in us now and we are to be led by the Holy Spirit because we are now children of God.Don't let anyone try to pervert the gospel of the grace of Christ.

Paul had his Judaizers come in after he preached the gospel to try to get people to go now and follow the Law. He had some very strong words to say about these types. These Judaizers are around in this day and age too.
 

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Well the calendars have been changed so many times. What are the chances that Saturday-only people are actually worshipping on Sunday? :eek: :p

As Romans says, let each be fully convinced in his own mind, especially concerning the day of worship, whether it be a Saturday or a Sunday. But most believers do worship God and fellowship throughout the week, not just one specific day each week.

The problem is when some become legalistic and start making it a requirement for salvation. Many who attend an SDA (Seventh Day adventist church) believe that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast, and therefore they believe that all who attend church on a Sunday are going to hell because they've (unknowingly) accepted this mark. Some (not all) even judge other believers of sinning because they don't keep the Saturday sabbath.

Jesus is our Sabbath rest. Only Jesus satisfies the requirements of the Law, and provided the sacrifice that atones for sin. He's God's plan for us to cease from the labor of our works.

Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that our eternal destination is dependent on us keeping the Sabbath as a Holy day. I know that many religious people, particularly catholics, are strict with their attendance, without fail, because they really believe it plays a part in salvation. This is just another example of men trying to add to the finished work of Jesus.


Romans 14:1-13:

"Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way
also saturday in america may Sunday in Indonesia

when God rest is that sabbath Indonesia or america.

sabbat start evening to evening. ON summer, In the north pole evening can be 3 month.