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Not everyone says easy believism means "do what you want".
But many of them still live in sin. Yep.
It's called disobedience..... not doing what God says. It is also rebellion to disobey. And that's worse than witchcraft.
Parable of Two Sons
28“But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go work today in the vineyard.’ 29“And he answered, ‘I will not’; but afterward he regretted it and went.30“The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, ‘I will, sir’; but he did not go. 31“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.32“For John came to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him; but the tax collectors and prostitutes did believe him; and you, seeing this, did not even feel remorse afterward so as to believe him.
But many of them still live in sin. Yep.
It's called disobedience..... not doing what God says. It is also rebellion to disobey. And that's worse than witchcraft.
Parable of Two Sons
28“But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go work today in the vineyard.’ 29“And he answered, ‘I will not’; but afterward he regretted it and went.30“The man came to the second and said the same thing; and he answered, ‘I will, sir’; but he did not go. 31“Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I say to you that the tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the kingdom of God before you.32“For John came to you in the way of righteousness and you did not believe him; but the tax collectors and prostitutes did believe him; and you, seeing this, did not even feel remorse afterward so as to believe him.
Romans 12:3 - For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.
1 Corinthians 12:9 - to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit.
God has granted a differing measure of faith to His children. I don't see this as faith that all Christians have in Christ, since Paul implies that some in the body of Christ have it and others don't. I see it as a special endowment of faith to accomplish certain tasks in ministry.
1 Corinthians 12:9 - to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit.
God has granted a differing measure of faith to His children. I don't see this as faith that all Christians have in Christ, since Paul implies that some in the body of Christ have it and others don't. I see it as a special endowment of faith to accomplish certain tasks in ministry.
1John 3:4Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 5You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. 7Little children, make sure no one deceives you;the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
No difference between those who left Christ & sinners.
No difference between those who left Christ & sinners.
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Greetings JIMBO,
I am not answering for Stephan, but I would like to comment on your question if i might..
All men/women are endowed by God with a measure of faith. Jesus said all one needs is a mustard seed of faith. Of course that's just the beginning, because He also said IF ye continue in my word ye shall be free indeed. ( a big IF is implied). And the apostle Peter instructs us to add virtuous qualities to our faith (via good works) as we grow in the Spirit, (note: this is not growth in sanctification, but rather growth in the Spirit, because at the new birth the cup is always full/sanctified/justified no matter it's size, and remains so IF one is walking after the Spirit, and not after the flesh)...
Because the influence and consequences of sin entered into the world, God also determines ability based on capacity as well. (to whomsoever much is given much is required)..The bible says love God with all YOUR heart, and soul, not all of Paul's' heart and soul, nor all of Jesus heart and sou, but all of YOUR heart, soul, mind, and strength...This capacity varies based on many different circumstances and developments...
Along with natural endowed faith, we also have a natural endowed reasoning and conscience capabilities. Again, according to the measure given and the consequences invoked...From the light of reason and conscience "logos", we are made in His image to be logical beings, John 1-1, 1-9. (note: i might add here also that rebellious sin is not of sound reasoning faculties, therefore sin is illogical)...That being said, the bible speaks of the half-hearted and double minded, who desire part of God and in many cases most of the world, (this is the seed sown among thorns), the cares of this world chokes the faith and it becomes a half-hearted faith lacking works of sincerity and righteous motives, whereas the apostle James said faith without works is dead. If so, we can then place our God given faith in the things of this world which is all wood, hay, and stubble....This is why James told them to purify their hearts in repentance, and eradicate the double-mindedness, for one cant serve two masters...without the zeal found in 2 Cor. 7-11, one will always remain the Romans wretch with a half-hearted faith that cant be proven by deeds, trying to serve two masters...hope this helps, be blessed
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The Death of the Passover Lamb Was NOT Enough
When the Lord was going to pass over Egypt and destroy the firstborn, he said to Moses and Aaron in Exodus 12:13...
When the Lord was going to pass over Egypt and destroy the firstborn, he said to Moses and Aaron in Exodus 12:13...
"And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and WHEN I SEE THE BLOOD, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt."
The death of the lamb wasn't enough, the blood had to be applied Mr. MacArthur. God wasn't looking for a dead lamb in the backyard; No, rather, God was looking for the APPLIED BLOOD on the doorposts and lintel (doorplate) above the door. The blood had to be applied. John MacArthur's entire ministry is flawed, and he is a false prophet, simply because he is WRONG on the most important Christian doctrine of all—Jesus precious, literal, liquid, blood! No genuinely saved person would ever deny the redemptive power of Jesus' physical blood!
“Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but BY HIS OWN BLOOD he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.” —Hebrews 9:12It's The Blood Of Jesus!
This is the basis of our salvation. The blood that is applied to the mercy seat in heaven. MrArthur states it's not the blood, but the death of Jesus.
There is where I stopped reading. And I remember reading that apostasy starts with denying the blood. I think it was a prophetic article. Was long ago that I read this.
He sounds good, but if one has not faith in the shed blood of Jesus...what is his/her salvation based on? It does become ones' own work.
This is the basis of our salvation. The blood that is applied to the mercy seat in heaven. MrArthur states it's not the blood, but the death of Jesus.
There is where I stopped reading. And I remember reading that apostasy starts with denying the blood. I think it was a prophetic article. Was long ago that I read this.
He sounds good, but if one has not faith in the shed blood of Jesus...what is his/her salvation based on? It does become ones' own work.
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I love you Jimbo. I really do, but some days you really remind me of the disagreements I had with my brothers growing up.
I am not sure what to say..how about we share a song?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lu5udXEZI
I am not sure what to say..how about we share a song?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lu5udXEZI
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I was going to address this, but to no avail...It would do no good to quote verses and correct one who leaves words out, verbiage off, twists context and denies scripture and verb tense......
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Disciple does not equal son.....it means a learner and practitioner of one's doctrine....and in so doing they would be set FREE from the religious hypocrites that pushed a law keeping, working for, sister bertha better than thou, I don't hardly sin and am better than that sinner over their dogma that can be lost and or gained or maintained by religious works....
You should know....you push the same dogma that the Pharisees pushed......maybe with a lemon twist and whip cream on top....still the same nonetheless....!