why Are Christians Afraid of the Supernatural
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So somebody sees something else but they are not allowed the same level of freedom to speak their truth because it involves others while you give yourself the permission to speak what you think you see in others. Yeah a pretty straight forward double standard, you deny it, and call it unintelligent, people with double standards often do, they don't want to admit what a hypocritical knob they are.
That is NOT what I said. and I did not say anybody was unintelligent. Why is it that every time people cannot answer a post they have to twist what the poster said, and accuse the poster of saying stuff he did not say? Thats a democrats way of arguing. I don't mind someone challenging something I say but at least keep it honest. and adult
Then you can likewise only speak for yourself to say YOU are not afraid, and pointing out your double standard is not an unintelligent argument, it is simply an observation you refuse to acknowledge the truth of. Truthfully Christians are told to avoid the things you want them to explore. Evidence of the supernatural is seen in some churches and it is cause for great dissension, the stupidity of thinking the Holy Spirit of God is going to make people bark like a dog for instance. Why would anyone seek such an experience? If people are hungry for God they should seek Him out, not Satan.
Ok Just looked at #9 Not laughing. I didn't say you were inintelligent. I said "Are you saying that what God does in occult?" and of course you did not answer the question
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You're talking like one of those atheists that signed up 2 days ago and start insulting God and posting occult garbage. 5-10% of what you posted in the other thread is scripture.
May God be glorified.
So you're saying the things God has done are occult? Really?
You put on your posts "May God be glorified" So when are you going to start?
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You're talking like one of those atheists that signed up 2 days ago and start insulting God and posting occult garbage. 5-10% of what you posted in the other thread is scripture.
May God be glorified.
So you're saying the things God has done are occult? Really?
You put on your posts "May God be glorified" So when are you going to start?
There is a great deal of fear in the denominational Christians that start off fearing by denying the baptism of the Holy Spirit. They don't have access to the power of God as a consequence and don't have a clue about supernatural battles - the only kind we have. They can't cast out devils because they don't have the anointing, the dunamis. They ignore these things and instead tell the oppressed to see a psychiatrist.
If you deny the power that God presents to you, Acts 19th chapter, then you're out of options.
Would God they will turn to Him and cry out for His Holy Spirit to fill them so they walk a victorious life. This is my prayer that all be united in the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.
If you deny the power that God presents to you, Acts 19th chapter, then you're out of options.
Would God they will turn to Him and cry out for His Holy Spirit to fill them so they walk a victorious life. This is my prayer that all be united in the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.
Several years ago....Holy smokes! It was thirty something years ago! My Lady and I were at a bible study...We were looking at Mark 16. And when we got to verse 17, my Lady asked aloud...Why is it we so seldom see this today. Well, when she asked that, It all went deathly quiet. I thought people were thinking it over...Then the manure went into the air conditioning. Literally all hell broke loose.
[h=1]Mark 16:17-18 (KJV)[/h] [SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
[h=1]Mark 16:17-18 (CJB)[/h] [SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs will accompany those who do trust: in my name they will drive out demons, speak with new tongues, [SUP]18 [/SUP]not be injured if they handle snakes or drink poison, and heal the sick by laying hands on them.”
In a couple weeks we were kicked out of this Pentecostal church, this bible believing church. Well for the longest time I was really angry at these phoney Christians. Almost all Christians. It took me years to realize that God had blessed us in allowing us to get kicked out. He even told us that He had blessed us but I didn't see it. Now years later, I do see it. These signs shall follow those that BELIEVE If you do not see these things in your life, on a regular basis....are you really a believer? You have to judge that for yourself. You do not even have to answer. These signs shall follow those that believe...That goes along with this one....
Mark 16:20
And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Who went forth? Believers....What followed? The Lord followed confirming their words with signs Signs do not follow unbelievers....
[h=1]Mark 16:17-18 (KJV)[/h] [SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
[h=1]Mark 16:17-18 (CJB)[/h] [SUP]17 [/SUP]And these signs will accompany those who do trust: in my name they will drive out demons, speak with new tongues, [SUP]18 [/SUP]not be injured if they handle snakes or drink poison, and heal the sick by laying hands on them.”
In a couple weeks we were kicked out of this Pentecostal church, this bible believing church. Well for the longest time I was really angry at these phoney Christians. Almost all Christians. It took me years to realize that God had blessed us in allowing us to get kicked out. He even told us that He had blessed us but I didn't see it. Now years later, I do see it. These signs shall follow those that BELIEVE If you do not see these things in your life, on a regular basis....are you really a believer? You have to judge that for yourself. You do not even have to answer. These signs shall follow those that believe...That goes along with this one....
Mark 16:20
And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Who went forth? Believers....What followed? The Lord followed confirming their words with signs Signs do not follow unbelievers....
Ephesians 6:12New International Version (NIV)[SUP]12 [/SUP]For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
I got news for ya. If you are a Christian you ARE the professional (or are supposed to be).
I got news for ya. If you are a Christian you ARE the professional (or are supposed to be).
We see miracles constantly as believers. After fourteen years without children God came a d promised us a son. Doctors said no. Wife's body allergic to my sperm. Lots happened, books happened. Two years later praying in tongues and the Lord gave me the interpretation saying He'd done it. Have it written down on a plaque. Nine months later he was born. A minister of the gospel today. Never any drugs, sex or alcohol. God does these things daily. He's never stopped thank God!
I'm not afraid of the supernatural. I know that God is in control, and that even Satan cannot do anything without His permission. God knows every hair on our heads, He knows when we sit, stand, or lay down. He knows everything in our future before we are even born. He saved His Son from being killed until it was His time to die, and He'll do the same for His children.
The worst evil men or Satan could do to you, if given God's permission, is kill you. But God can kill both your body and soul in hell. So the only one to fear is God. And if you obey Him perfectly, you have nothing to fear. Perfect love drives out fear. But who can say they obey Him perfectly? Therefore everyone should fear to disobey God.
But I'm not afraid of the supernatural- love is supernatural- love is God. My body is like a machine, but my soul does not dwell in it without supernatural power. So why should I be afraid of what gives me life? I should only be afraid of the One Who can take that life from me.
Does Satan have supernatural power? Only to the extent that God allows- to test us. God told Satan he may give him disease and take away his blessings, but that he may not kill him. And a demon gave a woman the ability to tell the future, until Paul cast it out. But so what? Humans have no supernatural power if not given by God or Satan- which does not happen under the new covenant.
Their only real power of demons is to tempt and test us, or to make faces at us in hopes of getting us to fear.
All these things are irrelevant. They are distractions to divert our eyes from being focused on Christ. Peter was doing good walking on water, until he took his eyes off Christ, and focused them on the wind and waves- then he started to fear and to fall.
I really dont care what sign or wonder I can be shown, even if you could convince me it wasn't trickery. I know God is in control of all things, that nothing happens without His permission- so I won't marvel at it. So what, big deal. Poop is real- I'm not going to marvel at it just cause it's real. And powers used for evil are just that- spiritual poop. But as for God. it's not hard for me to believe that a God who gave humans limitations, can do things that we cannot.
My only focus- obey God so that I can get to heaven when I die, and be home with God forever.
The worst evil men or Satan could do to you, if given God's permission, is kill you. But God can kill both your body and soul in hell. So the only one to fear is God. And if you obey Him perfectly, you have nothing to fear. Perfect love drives out fear. But who can say they obey Him perfectly? Therefore everyone should fear to disobey God.
But I'm not afraid of the supernatural- love is supernatural- love is God. My body is like a machine, but my soul does not dwell in it without supernatural power. So why should I be afraid of what gives me life? I should only be afraid of the One Who can take that life from me.
Does Satan have supernatural power? Only to the extent that God allows- to test us. God told Satan he may give him disease and take away his blessings, but that he may not kill him. And a demon gave a woman the ability to tell the future, until Paul cast it out. But so what? Humans have no supernatural power if not given by God or Satan- which does not happen under the new covenant.
Their only real power of demons is to tempt and test us, or to make faces at us in hopes of getting us to fear.
All these things are irrelevant. They are distractions to divert our eyes from being focused on Christ. Peter was doing good walking on water, until he took his eyes off Christ, and focused them on the wind and waves- then he started to fear and to fall.
I really dont care what sign or wonder I can be shown, even if you could convince me it wasn't trickery. I know God is in control of all things, that nothing happens without His permission- so I won't marvel at it. So what, big deal. Poop is real- I'm not going to marvel at it just cause it's real. And powers used for evil are just that- spiritual poop. But as for God. it's not hard for me to believe that a God who gave humans limitations, can do things that we cannot.
My only focus- obey God so that I can get to heaven when I die, and be home with God forever.
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My question is ... Why are so many proclaiming Christians fascinated with it ? I believe undoubtedly every miracle performed by our Lord and Saviour when He walked this earth. Even the miracles performed by the apostles to whom Jesus gave the authority to attest to the validity of Christ's claim(s) and Words. We are told that many who were fed came to hear Jesus speak again because they hungered for another meal ... and not His Words of life. In other words, their hearts sought after those things of no eternal value. Ours is to seek after His righteousness in faith, trust and hope ... and not those things miraculous that we should already know that He can accomplish in the blink of an eye. We need to know Whom we have believed in the absence of physical evidence. Lord ... to whom shall we go ? You have the Words to eternal life.
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How has God managed to survive without you for so long? How have Christians?
You always come at your post as if you alone know all, and we're just way too stupid. OR God could not survive without you protecting him.
Here's a clue: I know I'm no match for demons, but it doesn't matter. God has me covered and my focus is on him. Doesn't that say everything about fear of the supernatural? God is Super Nature!
Your high horse is a miniature donkey. I don't learn from people who know less than most.
You always come at your post as if you alone know all, and we're just way too stupid. OR God could not survive without you protecting him.
Here's a clue: I know I'm no match for demons, but it doesn't matter. God has me covered and my focus is on him. Doesn't that say everything about fear of the supernatural? God is Super Nature!
Your high horse is a miniature donkey. I don't learn from people who know less than most.