God's Commandment For Women Not To Speak In Church
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I would count you also in the same class, since you have consistently attempted to bait me by implying that I'm upset or crying. This isn't 5th grade any more. I suspect that you were raised by a single mother, since you have defended women at every opportunity like you feel it's somehow honorable, and are offended by the subject of modern women and fatherless children.
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but he HAS narrowed it down to a horrible group of women who have no decency and probably didnt get disciplined
I also find 'a horrible group of women' offensive
I normally think you make alot of sense but something very vulgar has crept into this thread and it needs to be told it is not acceptable
there is absolutely NO excuse for ANY kind of comment that degrades women in general and beating them? that is sick
It's OK, I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
It is hardly a burden. It is on this Paul says,,.....
1 Corinthians 14:[SUP]37 [/SUP]If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.[SUP]38 [/SUP]But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
What would you call the rest of the scripture on the subject of the man being the head of the woman?
1 Corinthians 14:[SUP]37 [/SUP]If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.[SUP]38 [/SUP]But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
What would you call the rest of the scripture on the subject of the man being the head of the woman?
C
Some of the points Zen was making here in the UK are valid but from the wrong angle.
It is not necessarily women in general who are in error here. It is a few strong willed individuals who are able to manipulate figures and shout the loudest to sway government policy in their favour.
Here in the UK we have watched women walk into jobs not based on their abilities or their qualifications, but because of their gender where employers are forced to employ a 50/50 male/female workforce. The problem is, that most of the harder physical jobs women refuse to do and by law they are backed up. So the traditional promotion of 20 years on physical work with the last 10-15 years in a cushy office as one gets older are now no longer available to men as one has offices full of women at a higher pay but with no experience.
Locally a man coming up to his 70's was in tears... When I asked what was wrong... He said he had worked for a firm all his life and started outdoors in the yard lifting heavy items... Slowly he was promoted until he was in the office. Then equal equalities agenda came in and he was at his age, back in the yard heavy lifting in the cold winter... He thought he would stick it out for a year or two so he could retire, but the women having no experience tried to overwork the men they were over and most of the young men left. Then he found the company got in the red, and as his pension was from company funds he lost his entire pension and the business went bust.
It is not necessarily women in general who are in error here. It is a few strong willed individuals who are able to manipulate figures and shout the loudest to sway government policy in their favour.
Here in the UK we have watched women walk into jobs not based on their abilities or their qualifications, but because of their gender where employers are forced to employ a 50/50 male/female workforce. The problem is, that most of the harder physical jobs women refuse to do and by law they are backed up. So the traditional promotion of 20 years on physical work with the last 10-15 years in a cushy office as one gets older are now no longer available to men as one has offices full of women at a higher pay but with no experience.
Locally a man coming up to his 70's was in tears... When I asked what was wrong... He said he had worked for a firm all his life and started outdoors in the yard lifting heavy items... Slowly he was promoted until he was in the office. Then equal equalities agenda came in and he was at his age, back in the yard heavy lifting in the cold winter... He thought he would stick it out for a year or two so he could retire, but the women having no experience tried to overwork the men they were over and most of the young men left. Then he found the company got in the red, and as his pension was from company funds he lost his entire pension and the business went bust.
It's OK, I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
I believe women need to be under the shelter of her husband. But, not a whip. Seen as equals in humanity and in the Spirit of God.
My husband doesn't agree with your interpretation. And he is a Jew too Issachar. He is the first one to encourage me to speak up when I have a word from the Lord. But, interrupting the speaker in an assembly to ask questions and even to challenge what is being taught, is never right. And that is the basis for these words of Paul.
But, I would rather deal with your issues then to deal with the religious issues found in enows OP>
It's OK, I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Do you think this scripture is stupid? Or do you think it's wise?
Do you believe that women should be subject to the authority of men?
Woman's suffrage has caused all types of problems.
Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP] 19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
Again, I point out another line of discernment that since it is the Lord's commandment for women to be silent in church and not to speak, then God would not be manifesting tongues in women in church in violating His own commandment which proves that tongue the women are speaking as vain & profane babbling is not of Him at all.
May God cause the increase.
As it is, God has and will continue to use women in outreach ministries and as missionaries, even in these christian forums.
2 days ago, I was at my g.fs house, her hubby was yelling at her telling her to shut up etc, and I felt so uncomfortable. It was just reminding me what I have walked away from in my life. I believe when it comes to men and woman, there are times to be silent, but in the ministry, I believe woman can be teachers, councilors etc. But not pastors. That's just what I believe. I'm not going to force my beliefs on anyone, I'm old school. And men being the head of the house, God would not have put that in his Word,just to take it back. Men are not Superior to woman. It's a beautiful thing for men to be a protector, but because of how our world is, it's hard to comprehend that what God wants, is beautiful. Humans have corrupted everything that is good for evil.