Handling an argument!!!

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Galatea

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GaryA said:
"Surely you jest..." :eek:

There is a big difference between "talking things out" and arguing. You can "get things out" without arguing at all. And, all you need for that is someone who is willing to 'discuss' without arguing. ( As long as you are also willing to do the same. )

Arguing is adversarial. Why would anyone want to argue? A sub-conscious psychological reason, perhaps?

Are you sure you don't simply mean that you would like for others to sympathetically listen to your side of the issue?

( You are just "testing the waters", aren't you...? :D When will you "let us off the hook" by telling us that you were only "pulling our leg"...? :p )

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No, I am not jesting. I like to argue. I guess I like testing wits. Although I fail quite often. In a battle of wits, I come without a weapon. I'm not teasing. I enjoy arguing. I suppose it is a rebellious streak in me. I'm not talking about arguing over laundry. I'm talking about arguing over issues- current, historical, theological. It stimulates me.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Galatea said:
Yes, I do.
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Interesting. So if I were to cast down a gauntlet to you of "pick a topic and choose your side", you'd be down?
 
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Galatea

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Yahweh_is_gracious said:
Interesting. So if I were to cast down a gauntlet to you of "pick a topic and choose your side", you'd be down?
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Yes, but I don't know your positions on issues, so if I pick the topic, it might not amount to much of an argument.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Galatea said:
Yes, but I don't know your positions on issues, so if I pick the topic, it might not amount to much of an argument.
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Mmm...but wouldn't the not knowing my positions on issues make it interesting? I might have to argue for a position counter to what I really think.
 
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Galatea

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Yahweh_is_gracious said:
Mmm...but wouldn't the not knowing my positions on issues make it interesting? I might have to argue for a position counter to what I really think.
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Yes, that might be better for me. I need all the advantages I can get.
 
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renewed_hope

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Yahweh_is_gracious said:
Mmm...but wouldn't the not knowing my positions on issues make it interesting? I might have to argue for a position counter to what I really think.
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What makes it interesting is changing your views in the middle of making a point.....as many know women change their minds at a moment's notice and we are always right ;)
 
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Galatea said:
It depends on the person. Some people I can not argue with and some people I can.
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Yes it does depend on the person. That's the beauty of righteousness, it is so flexible in loving people that no matter whom we face or meet, the one person that keeps us steadfast is Jesus Christ. In essence then, even when we are persecuted for His name sake, we are not at a lose to still love affectively.He helps me not get into the right and wrong fight, but rather He get's me into His purposes in the moment over my rightness in honor of His Spiritual truths. Sometimes that means leaving, and sometimes that means talking it out remaining in love, stating His arguments (without being argumentative) being loyal to His Word. But yes it does depend on the Person of Christ Jesus. (Smile :)).And of course I am also talking about practical matters in our lives, for Jesus is all and in all, and I must never forget that. He is not just my life He is in control of all things.I must trust that.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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renewed_hope said:
What makes it interesting is changing your views in the middle of making a point.....as many know women change their minds at a moment's notice and we are always right ;)
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Well, that's where ground rules come into play. There would have to be ground rules to this THUNDERDOME OF ARGUMENT. Being I am such a wonderful feminist, I'd hold my female opponent to the same rules I hold myself to. You know, equal treatment and all that junk. No changing mind part way through. Pick a side and argue your position. 2 beings enter, 1 being leaves.
 
Seekingfamily

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I am one woman that will admit when I am wrong..I still will be right, right about being wrong! Lol
 
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GaryA

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Galatea said:
No, I am not jesting. I like to argue. I guess I like testing wits. Although I fail quite often. In a battle of wits, I come without a weapon. I'm not teasing. I enjoy arguing. I suppose it is a rebellious streak in me. I'm not talking about arguing over laundry. I'm talking about arguing over issues- current, historical, theological. It stimulates me.
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Having a battle of wits is not the same thing as arguing. Debating issues is not the same thing as arguing; albeit, you can argue while debating.

My use of the word 'adversarial' includes a component of "harsh negative intent" towards an 'opponent', based on the selfish desire to 'win' - whether right or wrong -- as opposed to a more positive "getting at / to the truth of the matter" in a spirit of sincere mutual comradery.

If you are simply talking about a Sherlock Holmes style intellectual "meeting of minds", then - that is not the same thing as arguing.
 
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GaryA

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Galatea said:
I like to argue. I find it clears the air, gets things out. It's better out than in, I think. If I can talk about things, I can get over it and not stew. I am probably justifying my argumentative personality. :(
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Galatea said:
No, I am not jesting. I like to argue. I guess I like testing wits. Although I fail quite often. In a battle of wits, I come without a weapon. I'm not teasing. I enjoy arguing. I suppose it is a rebellious streak in me. I'm not talking about arguing over laundry. I'm talking about arguing over issues- current, historical, theological. It stimulates me.
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But, but, but, but --- these two posts are not talking about the same thing -- are they...???

Getting-it-out-of-your-system and a battle-of-wits ?

Is it anything like sexual tension? You know -- if you don't test your wits often enough - you are just way-too-distracted until you can participate in a battle-of-wits so you can get-it-out-of-your-system ( break the tension )?

hahaha

;)

For what it is worth --- I think the intention for the thread by the OP is arguments like "arguing over laundry"...

:)
 
Maka

Maka

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I was thinking "argument" as in an emotional exchange. If it's a respectful debate or argument that's different. I'm all for it, we need more of it in the BDF. I love reading the posts until raw emotions come out and things get personal.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Maka said:
I was thinking "argument" as in an emotional exchange. If it's a respectful debate or argument that's different. I'm all for it, we need more of it in the BDF. I love reading the posts until raw emotions come out and things get personal.
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(._.')

ive had to say sorry a few times
 
Maka

Maka

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NoNameMcgee said:
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ive had to say sorry a few times
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:D I get it :) Sometimes it's hard not to get personal. Especially when we're being attacked and the subject is so personal to us. My emotions would get the best of me on many subjects. I just stick to reading it, at least for now. :p
 
Harkins

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renewed_hope said:
Ladies and Gents.....the title says it all. We all argue and have disagreements, but how do you handle them? Are you one that lets it go or do you have to win them? Please be honest.....
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That depends on the subject matter, and the tactics used. If the point/counterpoint is kept to the subject matter itself and there is a high regard for the integrity or truthfulness of the points brought up, then I don't see this as an issue in itself. Winning in this sense only seems to me to be getting to the bottom of things, rather than an exercise of pitting one's wit against anothers.

The problem with arguments is when people start to use underhanded tactics. Personal attacks, gross generalizations, misrepresenting opinions etc - in order to "win". That's in general. In a relationship it can be a lot more hurtful when people wrongly use what was revealed through intimacy in an attempt to sideline, minimize or "hurt" their opponent's position. You might "win" the argument, but the black mark against the relationship will last longer.
 
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Garvey

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kindness,love sharing God appreciate so much
 
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GaryA

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Maka said:
:D I get it :) Sometimes it's hard not to get personal. Especially when we're being attacked and the subject is so personal to us. My emotions would get the best of me on many subjects. I just stick to reading it, at least for now. :p
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Anyone who has the self-discipline to not reply out of emotion when they "just-oh-so-want-to :mad:" - I am thinking - "is half-way there already"... ;)

( speaking in terms of maturity; the other half would be represented by what they said when they did post )
 
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GaryA

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NoNameMcgee said:
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ive had to say sorry a few times
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And, counting...?

Nooooo -- I am just kidding, my friend.

By the way -- you better hurry and make another post somewhere --- that '666' in your post count could make you a target around here...

hahahaha

(JK)
 
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