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miknik5

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J7,

You will never be able to frighten me into thinking I am doing something that blasphemes GOD.
I know what I know
I know who gave me the understanding.
And I am not concerned with your telling me that I am blaspheming.

Im not.
My conscience is very, very clear.
 

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Perhaps blasphemy is a bit strong. But we cannot make up our own rules.

If God says it cannot be understood until fulfilled, we are wise to listen to him.

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The aim of false doctrines is to corrupt the Church, and corrupt our thinking.
 

miknik5

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Nor will you be able to convince me that seven weeks of the time of tribulation to be poured out upon all the inhabitants of the earth has already happened.

It hasn't/
 

miknik5

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Perhaps blasphemy is a bit strong. But we cannot make up our own rules.

If God says it cannot be understood until fulfilled, we are wise to listen to him.
Daniel 12:4 clearly says otherwise

In fact, "when you see" has already been clearly stated by CHRIST in the very scriptures which you are discussing

I know what to look for...
 

miknik5

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I used to be afraid.
I'm not anymore.
I've left myself to HIM.

I don't care what men say or imply or suggest of what I am doing.
My conscience is clear.
I can't know all these things unless HE were teaching me.
And I have found from the beginning of my conversion that this is EXACTLY what HE has done...
 

J7

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? not sure what you mean.
 
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His soul was
But his body still remains in the earth asleep.
When his spirit rejoins his glorified body, then he will be raised up.
Daniel 12 didn't say anything about a glorified body, it just said they awake to everlasting life... that happened already.
 

miknik5

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J7,

When trouble comes, many will look left and right at woe and in this they will become confused and look up...curse/blaspheme/blame GOD and will be cast into utter darkness...

There is one thing we are supposed to do...keep our eyes above and beyond to HIM who is faithful and true, who...though HE may delay...though HE may temporarily hide HIS FACE from "Jacob's struggles" HE will no longer delay but will come straightway.

Blessed the man who waits for HIM...
Blessed the man who waits 1335 days and does not "go out"
 

J7

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TY KJ

tell it like it is
 

J7

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we've got a long way from Luke 21 .....

lol
 

miknik5

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Daniel 12 didn't say anything about a glorified body, it just said they awake to everlasting life... that happened already.
Well then you will have to refer to Paul's understanding...since he also was powerfully led by the SAME SPIRIT which the other "four craftsmen" were led by
 
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miknik5

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we've got a long way from Luke 21 .....

lol
Luke 21, Matthew 24, and Mark 13 are no different than Revelation 2-3 and CHRIST's forewarning to HIS BODY of BELIEVERS to be ready...
 

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His soul was
But his body still remains in the earth asleep.
When his spirit rejoins his glorified body, then he will be raised up.
Glorified body? You mean like God's glorified body which is spirit? We live by way of the spirit now, even yet here, yet in the body, and our new bodies will also be spiritual transformed bodies in heaven.Our bodies have been sentenced to eventual death for Adam used it to sin. (1 Corinthians 15:44) - It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Also read (Ecc. 3:20).
 
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Well then you will have to refer to Paul's understanding...since he also was powerfully led by the SAME SPIRIT which the other "four craftsmen" were led by
How did Paul understand it different?
 

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All the Bible is truth
 

miknik5

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All the Bible is truth
So why did you "like" KJV's post regarding Daniel RISING UP and receiving his lot.


But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.



There is no mention that Daniel will awake and have eternal life.
And John 5 clearly states that though not all have heard the VOICE of THE SON of GOD now...a time will come when all will...and will rise and be judged according to their works.

They can't be in heaven yet because they have to be judged to see if they have eternal life.
And of course only those whose names are written in the book of life will have life.


Though we do know that GOD would not allow HIS HOLY ONE to see decay, we also know (for those who believe) HE will not abandon our soul to the grave)

Absent from the body (for some) is present with THE LORD.
 
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Why can not both positions be true and reconciled? That there was a past fulfillment of the olivet discourse and a future fulfillment coming up? Or is that too crazy to think so? Why, if so?
 

J7

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So why did you "like" KJV's post regarding Daniel RISING UP and receiving his lot.
Matthew 27:52

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
 

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Why can not both positions be true and reconciled? That there was a past fulfillment of the olivet discourse and a future fulfillment coming up? Or is that too crazy to think so? Why, if so?
Exactly so Boga.