God's Commandment For Women Not To Speak In Church
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Not sure if it right but this is what I was taught as to why women were to be quiet in church. Back then women didn't read and were not educated but men were. In church women were often asking their husbands what was meant by what the preacher said. It was making it difficult for the preacher to be heard as the microphones were not that effective back then as they were of invented.
Anyway. It may help someone.
Anyway. It may help someone.
True that. There is no need to teach about His word,because His word is written in our hearts.I learned that as well. I tend to think it is true. That means there were two separate instances One is right and the other is wrong. Women are allowed to preach etc but not allowed to speak and interrupt. No doubt kids were doing the same. "Hey Ben! What's he talking about? I don't understand." "Shhhh Wait till we get home and we can discuss it there. Let's not interrupt." Yup I think that one is right.
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Acts 18:[SUP]24 [/SUP]And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.[SUP]25 [/SUP]This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.[SUP] 26 [/SUP]And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.[SUP]27 [/SUP]And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:[SUP]28 [/SUP]For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Seems Aquila & Priscilla expounded on the use of teh scripture more perfectly to Apollo that he became a believer in Jesus Christ.
Acts 18:[SUP]24 [/SUP]And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.[SUP]25 [/SUP]This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.[SUP] 26 [/SUP]And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.[SUP]27 [/SUP]And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:[SUP]28 [/SUP]For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publicly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Seems Aquila & Priscilla expounded on the use of teh scripture more perfectly to Apollo that he became a believer in Jesus Christ.
I don't know if there is a verse that says women could not read. The education system of the time though was not unclear.
This part would allow girls I would think. but...
Formal education was only allowed for boys, and began formally at the age of five in a local synogague, where they were taught by rabbis. Synogagues had an equivalent of both elementary and secondary school, and they had a student teacher ratio of about 1:25. Starting at five years old in "elementary school," students studied the written Torah. Students wrote on papyrus scrolls, which were no longer than around thirty feet each. People also learned Hebrew, the language of the scriptures. Students studied seven days a week, and even went to school insead of synogague.The reason people were allowed to do this wasn't because they considered biblical education more importan than worship. It was because they didn't seperate education of the Torah from worship. In fact, education of the Torah was considered the highest form of worship. Studying scripture was very tedious and often times consisted of memorization, repetition and reading out loud. In order to memorize all this information, people often times made mnemonic devices, and repeated information to themselves outloud throughout the day.
When you turned ten, you entered "secondary school," in which you studied oral Torah, and learned Greek, which was considered the language of business and politics in the Roman world. During this time students would also find a teacher to "follow", and in a way become their apprentince. When Jesus was a student he chose to follow John the Baptist.
Learning at Home
From birth, to around thirteen years of age, you're life would have been focused on education during the time of Jesus. Like today, as soon as you are born you start to learn the language that is spoken around you. In this case, it was Aramaic; a combination of Hebrew and Babylonian. In addition to learning their first language at home, children also learned how to read and write at home.This part would allow girls I would think. but...
Formal Education
Formal education was only allowed for boys, and began formally at the age of five in a local synogague, where they were taught by rabbis. Synogagues had an equivalent of both elementary and secondary school, and they had a student teacher ratio of about 1:25. Starting at five years old in "elementary school," students studied the written Torah. Students wrote on papyrus scrolls, which were no longer than around thirty feet each. People also learned Hebrew, the language of the scriptures. Students studied seven days a week, and even went to school insead of synogague.The reason people were allowed to do this wasn't because they considered biblical education more importan than worship. It was because they didn't seperate education of the Torah from worship. In fact, education of the Torah was considered the highest form of worship. Studying scripture was very tedious and often times consisted of memorization, repetition and reading out loud. In order to memorize all this information, people often times made mnemonic devices, and repeated information to themselves outloud throughout the day.
When you turned ten, you entered "secondary school," in which you studied oral Torah, and learned Greek, which was considered the language of business and politics in the Roman world. During this time students would also find a teacher to "follow", and in a way become their apprentince. When Jesus was a student he chose to follow John the Baptist.
Further Education
Once you were around thirteen years old you either stopped your education and started working in your father's trade which would have been taught to you at home, or you continued your studies at Bet Midrash, the House of Study. Here you would study Halachot, or rabbinic law. Also, the library was located at he Bet Midrash. At around thirty years old if you HAD continued your studies, you would enter your full ministry of work.
So, Yes its possible that some girls could read. And why not?
So, Yes its possible that some girls could read. And why not?
Oh..so u can't find a scripture as evidence? Then it would be reasonable to leave the verse as it is.QUOTE=Denadii;3178072]I don't know if there is a verse that says women could not read. The education system of the time though was not unclear.
This part would allow girls I would think. but...
Formal education was only allowed for boys, and began formally at the age of five in a local synogague, where they were taught by rabbis. Synogagues had an equivalent of both elementary and secondary school, and they had a student teacher ratio of about 1:25. Starting at five years old in "elementary school," students studied the written Torah. Students wrote on papyrus scrolls, which were no longer than around thirty feet each. People also learned Hebrew, the language of the scriptures. Students studied seven days a week, and even went to school insead of synogague.The reason people were allowed to do this wasn't because they considered biblical education more importan than worship. It was because they didn't seperate education of the Torah from worship. In fact, education of the Torah was considered the highest form of worship. Studying scripture was very tedious and often times consisted of memorization, repetition and reading out loud. In order to memorize all this information, people often times made mnemonic devices, and repeated information to themselves outloud throughout the day.
When you turned ten, you entered "secondary school," in which you studied oral Torah, and learned Greek, which was considered the language of business and politics in the Roman world. During this time students would also find a teacher to "follow", and in a way become their apprentince. When Jesus was a student he chose to follow John the Baptist.
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Learning at Home
From birth, to around thirteen years of age, you're life would have been focused on education during the time of Jesus. Like today, as soon as you are born you start to learn the language that is spoken around you. In this case, it was Aramaic; a combination of Hebrew and Babylonian. In addition to learning their first language at home, children also learned how to read and write at home.This part would allow girls I would think. but...
Formal Education
Formal education was only allowed for boys, and began formally at the age of five in a local synogague, where they were taught by rabbis. Synogagues had an equivalent of both elementary and secondary school, and they had a student teacher ratio of about 1:25. Starting at five years old in "elementary school," students studied the written Torah. Students wrote on papyrus scrolls, which were no longer than around thirty feet each. People also learned Hebrew, the language of the scriptures. Students studied seven days a week, and even went to school insead of synogague.The reason people were allowed to do this wasn't because they considered biblical education more importan than worship. It was because they didn't seperate education of the Torah from worship. In fact, education of the Torah was considered the highest form of worship. Studying scripture was very tedious and often times consisted of memorization, repetition and reading out loud. In order to memorize all this information, people often times made mnemonic devices, and repeated information to themselves outloud throughout the day.
When you turned ten, you entered "secondary school," in which you studied oral Torah, and learned Greek, which was considered the language of business and politics in the Roman world. During this time students would also find a teacher to "follow", and in a way become their apprentince. When Jesus was a student he chose to follow John the Baptist.
Further Education
Once you were around thirteen years old you either stopped your education and started working in your father's trade which would have been taught to you at home, or you continued your studies at Bet Midrash, the House of Study. Here you would study Halachot, or rabbinic law. Also, the library was located at he Bet Midrash. At around thirty years old if you HAD continued your studies, you would enter your full ministry of work.
So, Yes its possible that some girls could read. And why not?
So, Yes its possible that some girls could read. And why not?
@Zen, The more you speak, the more you sound like a teenage boy sitting on the back of a pickup tailgate, boasting to his buddies. Maybe you should spend a little more time, no a lot more time, studying the scriptures relating to husbands and wives. God expects man to be the head of the woman, and woman to be the heart of man. God expects man and woman to become one in him. That is Christian marriage. God also, if you read the scriptures posted here completely, does not allow you to correct, chastise, or in any other way advise a married woman, and I would take that one step further, and add any woman.
I've been married to Mama for over 56 years and God has never allowed either of us to strike the other. We take "two become one" seriously. We began growing together on our wedding day and still grow closer every day.
One last thing. Addressing all. There seems to be some question about elders. Every church has them. They are the older men in the congregation who meet the qualifications in Timothy. Take problems to them. If you don't have enough respect for them to help you resolve the problem, find another church.
I've been married to Mama for over 56 years and God has never allowed either of us to strike the other. We take "two become one" seriously. We began growing together on our wedding day and still grow closer every day.
One last thing. Addressing all. There seems to be some question about elders. Every church has them. They are the older men in the congregation who meet the qualifications in Timothy. Take problems to them. If you don't have enough respect for them to help you resolve the problem, find another church.