Why does keeping seventh-day Sabbath = Salvation by works?

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Ahwatukee

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Greetings Chips1024,

The question is why is keeping the seventh-day sabbath considered to be Salvation by Works?


The simple answer to your question is that, whatever else that an individual is trusting in as a requirement for salvation, then they are not trusting in Christ, but in their own efforts. By this, a person is basically saying that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient, because I have to do this to complete it.

That said, a person can keep a specific day as special to God and another can consider every day the same, a person can only eat vegetables, another can eat anything, just as the scripture states. It is only when a person performs those works as being mandatory for salvation.

Anytime a person brings in some other requirement alongside of Christ's sacrifice as mandatory to obtain or maintain salvation, then they are not truly trusting in Christ.

We are saved by trusting in Christ as the One who provided salvation for us, completely and fully. This keeps our eyes on Christ and not on our own works/efforts.

Should we have a desire for good works? Absolutely! But for the purpose of glorifying God. And by doing so we are also building up our treasures in heaven.

I hope that this is beneficial
 
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If you keep the Sabbath to "earn" your salvation you are definitely not reading the Bible correctly. We have to remember that obedience should not be mistaken for being legalistic.

Legalism is earning salvation through deeds. If you keep the commandments because you love God, different story. There are so many threads debating this I am actually surprised that people are getting into this debate (again), but it just goes to show that this is one of those topics that people love to debate.
 
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chips1024

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I would say:

Because to keep Sabbath is the OT attitude, so it implies that when you keep it and talk about it frequently (or even you are teaching it or forcing others to do it) you are probably not getting the reality in Christ.

Which implies you are too "Jewish" in your theology which implies you are probably in salvation by works.
Hmmm... I can understand that line of thinking... thank you for that... though I am confused a little about why Jews would be thought to have salvation by works as they also get salvation through faith as we do... so perhaps there is a general misunderstanding that the system implemented for the Jews by God was leading to works, when in reality they also are forgiven by faith...

I truly thank you for this thinking and the post... it helps me understand a lot!!
 
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Hmmm... I can understand that line of thinking... thank you for that... though I am confused a little about why Jews would be thought to have salvation by works as they also get salvation through faith as we do... so perhaps there is a general misunderstanding that the system implemented for the Jews by God was leading to works, when in reality they also are forgiven by faith...

I truly thank you for this thinking and the post... it helps me understand a lot!!
We know that God never changed so we know that salvation was always by faith.

This is since day 1 and we can argue about it all day long. The problem people don't understand is why did Jesus came to earth and why did God gave us His law.
 

loveme1

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There is no such thing as the law and the 10 commandments being separate. That is a man-made thing as Paul shows that the 10 commandments are part of the law.


Coveting is one of the 10 - unless it got kicked out for getting caught "coveting".

Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."


The Christian has died to the law, been released from the law and not under the law anymore. It can't get any plainer than that.
Matthew 5

7Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


Revelation 14


12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Friends viewing this...I have took parts of Scripture for easy reading on here etc.. but please always search The Scriptures to check context....


 
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chips1024

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Our Sabbath-keeping legalistic friends have everything back to front as usual!

This is what Paul says:

23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come,we are no longer under a tutor. Gal 3:23-25
The law was there to bring us to faith.
Now that we are saved - we are no longer under the law and its statutes are no longer binding.

The legalists insist on trying to split the law into two sections:
The law of God - the ten commandments; and
The law of Moses - the rest of the law.

There is NO biblical foundation for this but the legalists need to pretend on this because they need to keep the ten commandments and particularly the Sabbath.
The law is indivisible: the ten commandments CANNOT be separated from the rest of the law no matter what they say!
And Paul tells us that justification is found apart the law (all of it!) see Rom 3:21-31

21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all[h] who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Rom 3:21-26

In SDA doctrine at least Sabbath-keeping is the essential sign that one is indeed a Christian.
Those that do not keep the Sabbath in SDA doctrine are hell-bound - so essentially it is a works-based equation.
SDA doctrine also explicitly denies assurance of salvation - one reason given is encourage their members to continue striving and Sabbath-keeping is the main thing that needs to be maintained in their doctrine.

Non-SDA Sabbath-keeping groups have different doctrines but most will insist that Sabbath-keeping is essential for ultimate salvation. Despite their insistence salvation by grace through faith is not what they actually believe since Sabbath-keeping is compulsory and so "grace + works" = "works"!

A Christian does not need the law for a "knowledge of sin" and most especially should not place oneself back under the law.
A knowledge of sin is what brings someone to faith in Jesus Christ it is not needed for that purpose afterwards - that is the express point of Gal 3:23-25.
Apart from what appears to be issues with some SDA, you also seem to acknowledge that both Sunday keeping and Saturday keeping are in the same boat and that neither should look down or judge the other for keeping or not keeping 'their chosen' day... Keeping any day seems to be out of the question from what I am getting out of your message. People pushing Sunday doctrine and Saturday doctrine need to stop...
There is a point that appears to imply that there is a law for people who don't believe (not saved) and those that believe (saved), but that is another topic. Thank you for your thoughts...
 
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Matthew 5

7Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


Revelation 14


12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Friends viewing this...I have took parts of Scripture for easy reading on here etc.. but pleased always search The Scriptures to check context....


The operative words are "Till all be fulfilled". Jesus fulfilled the law of Moses for us.

Jesus said that those that teach others not to follow the law - He said it in "context" to have the law do it's purpose" Which is to reveal sin and inflame sin so that people would see that they need a Savior.

Do you stone others that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the Old Testament? It's part of the law. If not - then you are not keeping the law and are guilty of it all as James says.

Christ Himself is our true Sabbath rest because of His life and righteousness.

People are free in Christ to observe any day as they choose but when someone comes and says "You must observe the Sabbath day as in the Old Testament way and if you don't - you are sinning and dis-obeying God."

These are Judaizers and are in fact distorting and perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.

Paul said that he didn't stand for this type of behavior for one hour "so that" the truth of the gospel would remain with the Galatians.
 
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chips1024

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There is no such thing as the law and the 10 commandments being separate. That is a man-made thing as Paul shows that the 10 commandments are part of the law.


Coveting is one of the 10 - unless it got kicked out for getting caught "coveting".

Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."


The Christian has died to the law, been released from the law and not under the law anymore. It can't get any plainer than that.
The law is indeed one... Christ spoke of 'the law and the prophets', placing them together and making it all one.

It then seems that one who is keeping the Sabbath is then keeping the law - which we are to be freed from... so in turn, keeping the sabbath or sunday or any other day holy is viewed as still keeping the law, which again, we are supposed to be dead from... I can see the logic flow there quite clearly... thank you for that...

I do have a further question if you don't mind answering...
What does it mean to be free from the law as I am trying to understand this point? Does that mean that the law ceases to exist? Does it mean that I am free to do as I please? You say that the Christian has died to the law, does that mean that once I am a Christian I am saved forever? Please explain further, if possible, what it means by being free from the law (whole/all law).
 

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Jesus was put to death under the Law, so he wasn't exactly going to abolish it before his crucifixion
 
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chips1024

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Quite simple.
The reason people equate it with works salvation is because the Sabbatarians tend to say that if you do not keep the Sabbath that you are sinning against God and some go as far as to say it is or will be the Mark of the beast.

With all this can you really be surprised that people are up in arms saying it is works salvation?
Apologies, I do not know about Sabbatarians, it was my first time reading about them last week, I am not aware of all the details surrounding the concept, so thanks for the further information. I can see how pushing the doctrine of needing to do anything else besides believe can turn into a salvation by works issue.
This is similar to some people saying that the only true mark that you have received the holy Spirit is by speaking in tongues? That then places another hurdle one needs to cross in order to be saved... same idea, just a different topic... Telling people that we need to go to church on Sunday is then the same issue, salvation by works all over again, just a different day... thanks for your valuable insight...
 
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The law is indeed one... Christ spoke of 'the law and the prophets', placing them together and making it all one.

It then seems that one who is keeping the Sabbath is then keeping the law - which we are to be freed from... so in turn, keeping the sabbath or sunday or any other day holy is viewed as still keeping the law, which again, we are supposed to be dead from... I can see the logic flow there quite clearly... thank you for that...

I do have a further question if you don't mind answering...
What does it mean to be free from the law as I am trying to understand this point? Does that mean that the law ceases to exist? Does it mean that I am free to do as I please? You say that the Christian has died to the law, does that mean that once I am a Christian I am saved forever? Please explain further, if possible, what it means by being free from the law (whole/all law).
I have said this a few times and maybe it'll help to answer your question which is excellent BTW and it will help us to see Christ in all things.

We don't need to live by the moral code in the law of Moses which says in Lev. 18:23 to not have sex with a animal. The law of Christ Himself , the law of love, the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus will stop this.

People often say to those that speak of the grace of God and that they are not under the law of Moses including the 10 commandments anymore that they believe they are without "laws" now.

We do have laws in the New Covenant.

They are exciting laws that bring life and wholeness to us all - because these are all Christ Himself in us.
Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.

Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.

We now live by:

1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 8:2 )

2) The law of love ( Romans 13:10 James 2:8 )

3) The law of faith ( Romans 3:27 and the law of Moses is NOT of faith - Gal. 3:12 )

4) Thelaw of liberty in Christ Jesus ( James 1:25 )

5) The law of Christ - which is Christ Himself in us. ( Gal. 6:2 )

We can trust the Holy Spirit and the life of Christ Himself in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the law of Moses that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us..
Jesus is more then enough.

Yes...we glory in the laws that we have in the New Covenant because they are all Christ Himself living in and through us. ( Gal.2:20 and Col. 3:3 )

Get this wrong and we create a religion which really nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives like it was meant to.

We will be trying to "achieve by what we do or don't do" - what Christ has already done by His finished work on the cross and resurrection.


Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

[SUP]23 [/SUP]
gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
 
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chips1024

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Greetings Chips1024,



The simple answer to your question is that, whatever else that an individual is trusting in as a requirement for salvation, then they are not trusting in Christ, but in their own efforts. By this, a person is basically saying that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient, because I have to do this to complete it.

That said, a person can keep a specific day as special to God and another can consider every day the same, a person can only eat vegetables, another can eat anything, just as the scripture states. It is only when a person performs those works as being mandatory for salvation.

Anytime a person brings in some other requirement alongside of Christ's sacrifice as mandatory to obtain or maintain salvation, then they are not truly trusting in Christ.

We are saved by trusting in Christ as the One who provided salvation for us, completely and fully. This keeps our eyes on Christ and not on our own works/efforts.

Should we have a desire for good works? Absolutely! But for the purpose of glorifying God. And by doing so we are also building up our treasures in heaven.

I hope that this is beneficial
Hi!!

i just came to that conclusion from the post just before you!! Good to see the thinking is in one accord :)
Keeping the sabbath holy is perfectly fine as long as one does not do it in order to be saved... and because we cannot judge whether a person is acting in order to be saved or not, we cannot, as the scripture says, judge one another concerning sabbaths or esteeming certain days...

Thanks for cementing the idea for me, I appreciate the input!!
 
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chips1024

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The operative words are "Till all be fulfilled". Jesus fulfilled the law of Moses for us.
Just a note here... All has not been fulfilled... read the scripture, it says, til heaven and earth pass, not even one jot will pass from the law until all is fulfilled... there is still a lot to be fulfilled in scripture, so I guess that means one jot cannot be removed... and so the thinking continues...
 
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chips1024

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Jesus was put to death under the Law, so he wasn't exactly going to abolish it before his crucifixion
Wow... first time I hear this one... Jesus was put to death under the Law?? What does that mean? He did not sin, so therefor the law had no hold on him... could you explain this idea further please?
 
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chips1024

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I have said this a few times and maybe it'll help to answer your question which is excellent BTW and it will help us to see Christ in all things.

We don't need to live by the moral code in the law of Moses which says in Lev. 18:23 to not have sex with a animal. The law of Christ Himself , the law of love, the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus will stop this.

People often say to those that speak of the grace of God and that they are not under the law of Moses including the 10 commandments anymore that they believe they are without "laws" now.

We do have laws in the New Covenant.

They are exciting laws that bring life and wholeness to us all - because these are all Christ Himself in us.
Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.

Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.

We now live by:

1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. ( Romans 8:2 )

2) The law of love ( Romans 13:10 James 2:8 )

3) The law of faith ( Romans 3:27 and the law of Moses is NOT of faith - Gal. 3:12 )

4) Thelaw of liberty in Christ Jesus ( James 1:25 )

5) The law of Christ - which is Christ Himself in us. ( Gal. 6:2 )

We can trust the Holy Spirit and the life of Christ Himself in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the law of Moses that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us..
Jesus is more then enough.

Yes...we glory in the laws that we have in the New Covenant because they are all Christ Himself living in and through us. ( Gal.2:20 and Col. 3:3 )

Get this wrong and we create a religion which really nullifies the grace of God from operating in our lives like it was meant to.

We will be trying to "achieve by what we do or don't do" - what Christ has already done by His finished work on the cross and resurrection.


Galatians 5:22-23 (NASB)

[SUP]22 [/SUP]
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

[SUP]23 [/SUP]
gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Now this is a situation now... first you say that we are free from the law... then you show me all the laws that we now have... what exactly is your standpoint?? You cant say that some people split the law into 10 commandments and other laws and that we are free from laws. Then you add on laws from the New Testament... are you not also splitting laws according to how you want it? Are we free from laws or not?
 

loveme1

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The operative words are "Till all be fulfilled". Jesus fulfilled the law of Moses for us.

Jesus said that those that teach others not to follow the law - He said it in "context" to have the law do it's purpose" Which is to reveal sin and inflame sin so that people would see that they need a Savior.

Do you stone others that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the Old Testament? It's part of the law. If not - then you are not keeping the law and are guilty of it all as James says.

Christ Himself is our true Sabbath rest because of His life and righteousness.

People are free in Christ to observe any day as they choose but when someone comes and says "You must observe the Sabbath day as in the Old Testament way and if you don't - you are sinning and dis-obeying God."

These are Judaizers and are in fact distorting and perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.

Paul said that he didn't stand for this type of behavior for one hour "so that" the truth of the gospel would remain with the Galatians.
Revelation reveals that the saints have Faith in the Messiah and keep the Commandments of GOD.... Now if we adhere to the Messiah's Testimony we know they are of love.

Matthew 22

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But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets


Now this is where some of us differ, some after reading the Scriptures believe that:

Deuteronomy 5

6I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that isin heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
11Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
12Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. 15And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
16Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
17Thou shalt not kill.
18Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
19Neither shalt thou steal.
20Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
21Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.


Now we should not be judging each other's love for Heavenly Father.

We should always seek understanding and be accountable.

The Bible is clear that the saints have Faith in the Messiah and keep the Commandments of GOD..
 
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Now this is a situation now... first you say that we are free from the law... then you show me all the laws that we now have... what exactly is your standpoint?? You cant say that some people split the law into 10 commandments and other laws and that we are free from laws. Then you add on laws from the New Testament... are you not also splitting laws according to how you want it? Are we free from laws or not?
The Greek word for "law" means "principle or rule". The true Christian does not live by the law of Moses anymore which includes the 10 commandments.

Christians live by the life of Christ Himself who is in us - joined as one spirit forever. His life fulfills the intent of all the law of Moses.

3414. [FONT="Galatia Sil" !important]νόμος[/FONT] [FONT="Gentium" !important]nomos[/FONT] noun

Law, rule, principle.

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Lambda-Omicron.


The commandments of God in the New Covenant ( which is where Christians live from now - not the Old ) are stated by John.

1 John 3:23 (NASB)
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This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

 

loveme1

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[h=1]Psalm 119King James Version (KJV)[/h]119 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.
2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.
10 With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.
11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
12 Blessed art thou, O Lord: teach me thy statutes.
13 With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth.
14 I have rejoiced in the way of thy testimonies, as much as in all riches.
15 I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways.
16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
17 Deal bountifully with thy servant, that I may live, and keep thy word.
18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.
19 I am a stranger in the earth: hide not thy commandments from me.
20 My soul breaketh for the longing that it hath unto thy judgments at all times.
21 Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.
22 Remove from me reproach and contempt; for I have kept thy testimonies.
23 Princes also did sit and speak against me: but thy servant did meditate in thy statutes.
24 Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counselors.
25 My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word.
26 I have declared my ways, and thou heardest me: teach me thy statutes.
27 Make me to understand the way of thy precepts: so shall I talk of thy wondrous works.
28 My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word.
29 Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously.
30 I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.
31 I have stuck unto thy testimonies: O Lord, put me not to shame.
32 I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart.
33 Teach me, O Lord, the way of thy statutes; and I shall keep it unto the end.
34 Give me understanding, and I shall keep thy law; yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart.
35 Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight.

Feel free friends to read this all...
 
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Just a note here... All has not been fulfilled... read the scripture, it says, til heaven and earth pass, not even one jot will pass from the law until all is fulfilled... there is still a lot to be fulfilled in scripture, so I guess that means one jot cannot be removed... and so the thinking continues...
The law is still in effect for the world and that is why it is not to be diluted down by not doing all of the law as many "law-keepers" do in their attempt to keep the law of Moses.

The law of Moses is a manifestation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It will be here until the earth goes because it has been released into this world by the eating of the tree in the garden.

The Christian is not under the law, have died to the law and been released from the law's jurisdiction "so that" we could be joined to Another - Christ Himself.

Romans 7:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.


In order to bear fruit unto God - we need to be released from the law of Moses.
 

loveme1

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The irony of the idea working for Salvation by Resting on the Sabbath....

Apply the concept to any other of GOD's Commandments and it is a no go.. I mean you could not scorn a person for not committing Adultery as working for Salvation... yet all other Commandments are accepted as good.. yet a day of rest is now work...