The millenium reign of Christ and Gog and Magog.

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Marano

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-Today’s cities will be destroyed (e.g. Ezekiel 6:6; 12:20)

The living Christ is coming as “King of kings and Lord of lords” (Revelation 19:11-21),
to put down the rebellion of warring nations (Revelation 17:14), and establish God’s
world-ruling government over all nations (Daniel 2:44; 7:9, 13-14, 18, 22, 27; Isaiah 9:7).

He pictured Himself as the young nobleman going away (to heaven) to be coronated,
and to return to Earth (Luke 19:12-27). He will then be on the Earth—Zechariah 14:3-4,
1 Thessalonians 4:16. “If I go and prepare a place [position, office, habitation] for you,
I will come again, and receive you unto myself, that where I am, there ye may be also”

In vision, John saw the angels praising Christ at His coming to rule this Earth. They said,
“We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned” (Revelation 11:17)
The seventh angel sounds-Kingdoms of this current world become Christs (Rev 11:15)

-Will commit thy government into his hand, established with judgement and jutice.
a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem,and to the house of Judah (Isaiah 22:21)

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of
David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice
from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:7)

Apostle John, in vision, saw a preview of the beginning of that rule and world government
“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them…and
they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years” (Revelation 20:4).(Isaiah 11:2-4)

Matthew 25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from
another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep[changed beings] from the goats[mortals]:

He separates the sheep (those who had repented, believe, and receive His Holy Spirit)
from the goats (those mortals who rebel).There will then be two kinds of beings on Earth
—humans, and those made divine [changed] at the first resurrection.

Jesus said no one could see or enter into the Kingdom of God until he is born of God
(John 3:3-5). He made plain when one is born of God, he, just as God is, will be spirit.

We have now, as humans, been born of flesh—and therefore we are flesh. But God is
spirit (John 4:24), and when we are born of God—of the Spirit—we shall be spirit
(John 3:6-8). Now, we are earthy—of the earth (1?Corinthians 15:48). We are “flesh
and blood” from the earth—from matter (ver.50)—yet flesh and blood humans cannot
inherit the Kingdom of God . But, as we have borne the image of the earthy—mortal
—human—we shall, when born of God, bear the image of the heavenly—that is, spirit.

Jesus Christ is the firstborn of many brethren (Romans 8:29; Colossians 1:18)
who shall be born of God by a “resurrection” (John 5:25-29; 6:39, 40, 44).

Jesus said: “And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will
I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron…” (Rev 2:26-27).

And again, “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne [on this Earth]”
(Revelation 3:21; Luke 1:32-33). And, “…we shall reign on the earth” (Revelation 5:10).

-A Kingdom appointed, made ruler over some cities.

And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;(Luke 22:29)
Some resurrected saints will rule over 10 cities, some over five (Luke 19:17-19)

-the meek shall inherit the earth
Matthew 5:5,Psalms 37:11, Psalms 22:26, 37:9, 22,29
Psalms 25:13 (KJV)
His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.

8Thou didst cause judgment to be heard from heaven; the earth feared, and was still,
9When God arose to judgment, to save all the meek of the earth. Selah.
10Surely the wrath of man shall praise thee: the remainder of wrath shalt thou restrain.

great tribulation Saints,

-The time frame day and night are still used on earth.(Revelation 7:15)

Revelation 7:14-17
Those arrayed in white robes-come out of great tribulation-washed by blood of the Lamb
hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.


As the resurrected Christ ascended to heaven in clouds, so He shall return to Earth
in clouds (Acts 1:9-11; Matthew 24:30). Just as He is returning (1Thes 4:14-17),
the dead in Christ—those who have received and been led by God’s Holy Spirit
(Romans 8:11, 14), will rise in a gigantic resurrection, made immortal—including
all the prophets of old (Luke 13:28). Those who have the Spirit of God, then living,
shall be instantaneously changed from mortal to immortal (1?Corinthians 15:50-54)
and, together with those resurrected, shall rise to meet the descending glorified Christ
(1 Thessalonians 4:17) in the clouds in the air. They shall be with Him, where He is,
forever (John 14:3). They shall—with Him—come down out of the clouds, and stand
with Him, therefore, that very same day, on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4-5).

(2 Corinthians 6:2). It should read “a day of salvation,” not “the” day or [only day]
(quoted from Isaiah 49:8, where it is a not the).

Jesus said that no man who ever lived was greater than John the Baptist.
Yet, even the least in the resurrected Kingdom will be greater (Matthew 11:11)
Thank you for both of your responses, and for being on topic, so there will be two groups of people is what I understand, the ressurected who come from the tribulation (not all saints will reign with Christ during this period, the rest are in heaven right) then there are also mortals, do you think women will still bear children, and will there be death among the non ressurected living at the time.

There are way too many questions about this time period, also what technology will there be at the time, if airplanes, computers, huge buildings or if even more advanced technology.

Also Gog and Magog who are they that satan deceives, is it everyone of the mortals living at the time, or is there hope of salvation for some of the mortal?
 

prove-all

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Gog, and the land of Magog

It refers to this Asian confederacy as the “kings of the east” (Revelation 16:12).
It also reveals that it will have one lead country—and one individual at the head.
A prophecy in Ezekiel 38 gives us some of these important details.

“And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog,
the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him”
(Ezekiel 38:1-2). These verses begin in the latter days (verses 8, 16)
before the Great Tribulation, the Day of the Lord and Christ’s Second Coming.

Scholars generally agree that “Gog” is Russia, and that “the land of Magog” includes China.

The descendants of Meshech and Tubal have been found together throughout history.
In Assyrian and Greek histories, Meshech appears as Musku, Muski or Mushki—
all names related to the Russian spelling of Moscow, as you can read in the International
Standard Bible Encyclopedia. What about Tubal?

On the eastern side of the Ural Mountains lies the city of Tobolsk, named after the
Tobol River, derived from Tubal. Tobolsk was once the seat of Russian government
over Siberia and was basically considered Russia’s Asian capital.

One other Russian people is mentioned in Ezekiel 38:2. There is controversy over how
the Hebrew word rosh should be translated in this verse. The King James Version uses
the adjective “chief.” But the correct rendering (used by the Moffatt, New King James
and others) uses the word not as an adjective, but as a proper noun: Rosh. Thus,
that verse should read, “the prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.”

Rosh was the ancient name of Russia, once called Rus. Many encyclopedias and
commentaries (such as the Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary) recognize this.

Who is this “prince” of Russia, Moscow and Tobolsk? use of all three names states
that this is an individual ruler of all the peoples of Russia, from the west to the east.
Ezekiel’s command to “prophesy against him” further indicates a specific individual.

Vladimir Putin could lead the 200 million-man army.
He has already solidly allied Russia with China.

‘God’s Army’


Details about this massive army are revealed in passages such as
Revelation 9:13-21, Daniel 11,


44But tidings out of the east and out of the north -(Gog preparing to mount an attack)

shall trouble him: [europe -German led -ten toes-10 kings] is king of the north.

therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.


Jeremiah 50 -this 200 million-man Asian force is actually called God’s army.
God is the one who is raising up this war machine for the last battle.


11And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and
very terrible; and who can abide it?
 
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God will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom in Revelation 13,and bring Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

God will bring all the Jews from out of the nations,and put them back on their land,which they became a nation in 1948.

Israel is blinded in part,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,and so all Israel will be saved,which means Israel acknowledges the Old Testament,but does not accept the New,for the majority,but Israel as a nation must turn to Jesus,until salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,when the world takes the mark of the beast,so all Israel shall be saved,God will defeat the world,and save Israel,and physical Israel will become spiritual.

The saints cannot be gathered unto Christ until there is a falling away first,and the man of sin steps in to the Jews temple,and claims to be God and their Messiah.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,which will allow for all the Jews to go back to the land of Israel,and the Gentile nations will come together,and say,Peace and safety,and try to achive peace on earth.

The Jews will rebuild their temple with no hassle from the Palestinians,and the world will operate by a unified religious system,and the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

For the first three and one half years repentance,and salvation,is available to the world.

The unified religious system will be based on spiritual evolution,with that interpretation of all religions that are not compatible,and the ones where ever they were not compatible,their fundamental belief is not recognized by the unified religous system,and all religions are vaild for spiritual evolution with a core truth,according to the unified religous system.

It will be a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion punishable in the international criminal court system,which will be mainly by people trying to push their fundamental beliefs not recognized by the unified religious system.

It will be the time they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,spiritual evolution through nature,and a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion,because all are vaild with a core truth,and Christianity will rapidly decline in impacting the world with the truth.

The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters that happen on earth,but they do not repent of their evil ways,and do not turn to God,and keep trying to solve their problems on earth,which the unified religious system,and a hate crime to try to convert someone to their religion,will spark a war between the religion of Islam and the world,in which the Arab nations are devastated by nuclear weapons,which the man of sin will pluck up 3 horns by the roots,which is the 6th trumpet,and a third of the population of the world dies.

That war is so terrible that is leaves them in despair,and with little hope,but they do not repent of their evil ways,and turn to God,and keep trying to solve their problems by their own efforts,so God gives them the man of sin to rule over them.

The falling away first is complete.

The devils are cast to earth,and Satan uses the man of sin to deceive the world,and the man of sin steps in to the Jews temple,and claims to be God and their Messiah,and addresses the world that he has harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power,and the false prophet will testify to that by doing miracles the beast gave him,and will give this power to all who follow the beast.

The world says,who is like unto the beast,and who can make war with him,and they have hope for peace on earth,and the world takes the mark of the beast,and the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,and God will use 2 witnesses to turn Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Israel is protected for the 7 years period from physical attack,because God has the purpose to bring Israel to the truth.

The beast and the world make war against the saints,and prevail against them,and the saints are given in to his hands for three and one half years,and he shall destroy the mighty and holy people,and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people the saints that remain on earth will be gathered unto Christ.

The wrath of God is poured upon the world leading up to the battle of Armageddon,which the beast and the world attack Jerusalem,the Jews,and Jesus comes back with the saints,and defeats the world,and saves Israel,and so all Israel shall be saved,and physical Israel will be spiritual for they turned to Jesus,which Jesus said the Jews will not see Him again until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord.

God said,He will make a full end of all nations where the Jews were scattered,but not make a full end of Israel,and the kingdom on earth is restored to Israel,and there will be no operating Gentile government.

Jesus and the saints will rule for 1000 years over those that are left of the nations that God spared at the battle of Armageddon,and they have to go up year after year to Jerusalem,and worship the LORD,and keep the feast of tabernacles,Old Testament physical ordinance to keep right with God,for they cannot be spiritual for they took the mark of the beast.

Satan is bound and thrown in the bottomless pit,and does not deceive the nations,and God will use him at the end of the millennial reign.

At the end of the millennial reign Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit,and goes and deceives the people,and they go against the saints,and God reigns fire on them and devours them,and the millennial reign is over.The people that God spared still had punishment coming for taking the mark of the beast,but God postponed it until the millennial reign was over.

The dead are resurrected to be judged.

Creation testifies there is a God,who loves people,the two greatest laws,love God,and love people,so the world is without excuse,and their conscience bears them witness between good and evil.

The world will be judged by that,and if they measure up will be able to dwell with God forever,for God is a fair God,and will not condemn people that have not heard the word of God.

The saints shall go to the New Jerusalem,which is a place where sin has never been,and sin will never be,and be there for eternity,and the old earth shall not be remembered,or come to mind.

Amen.
 
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willybob

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the ecclesia has been in the figurative 1000 years of covenant keeping for 2000 literal years thus far (the over comers)...... liken to the 1000 generations of covenant keepers spoken of three times in the OT..Its metaphoric for those abiding in the new covenant, keeping the commandments of Christ....Gog and Magog/Armagedden is the spiritual battle of the saints against the Dragon and his powers of darkness, the wicked principalities from dark places,,,,,,,,,, and he that endures to the end the same shall be saved...be blessed
 

Locutus

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I'll take the Mark, the Euro or Dollar - unmarked bills preferred .....:cool:
 

Marano

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the ecclesia has been in the figurative 1000 years of covenant keeping for 2000 literal years thus far (the over comers)...... liken to the 1000 generations of covenant keepers spoken of three times in the OT..Its metaphoric for those abiding in the new covenant, keeping the commandments of Christ....Gog and Magog/Armagedden is the spiritual battle of the saints against the Dragon and his powers of darkness, the wicked principalities from dark places,,,,,,,,,, and he that endures to the end the same shall be saved...be blessed
The millenium reign of Christ is not figurative, the bible is clear it's literally 1000 years reign of Christ on earth.