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eternally-gratefull

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taking a breath is in order here...
i have taken many breaths, as have many, yet the slanderers go unfeathered while the people brave enough to call them out get attacked
 
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when did god tell us to ignore sin and enable the person doing the sin?

your church has no discipline procedures, you just let people sin all they want? talk about a mess
Is this you "defending the gospel" or you just being the flesh driven wannabe you really are?



Seeing as you no nothing about our fellowship, how it is ran, what discipline procedures we have, you are a now rightly and deservedly called a fool that is making foolish comments....Do you want to continue down this path or take a breath and get offline for awhile?
 
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I don't know which Lord Peter serves, but the Lord I serve, does not speak in a haughty manner, is not presumptive or assumptive, does not make observations based on people's words, does not tell people they are brainwashed, and is not arrogant. Peter comes across as ALL of these things in his posts, whether he means to or not, so THAT must be the type of Lord HE serves..
The apostles answered questions like this simply.
He who says Jesus the son of God came in the flesh, bleed and died for the forgiveness of our
sins has the Holy Spirit.
He who loves His brother and sister in Christ has the Holy Spirit.
He who does the will of God has the Holy Spirit.

He who obeys the commandments through love knows God and is a friend of God.

People are excluded from the Kingdom because of persistent willfull sinful behaviour.
So if you believe they are behaving sinfully confront them with the sin etc.

Now it appears people are saying I am slandering them. Please tell me about what?
I am told I can never walk without being in sin, that to be clean, pure and holy before
the Lord is impossible. Now think a little. If the people who say this are then told they
are being in sin, not pure and holy they are just fulfilling their own words.

If Jesus cleanses use to we are acceptable before the Father, then we are, now today.
Sin does defile us, so needs to be understood isolated and dealt with.

What is odd is how this is all, literally all the issues are about, yet it is spoken like it is a deep
mystery, and such a heinous crime. When are you guys going to be honest and truthful. If you
want to say you are sinners, walking sinfully not cleansed pure of Holy, why is it wrong to state
that as you believe it. Or is the truth the words condemn you, so you flinch so hard, you say
it is satan speaking. It is such a strange contradiction, but the light has to shine and you need
to resolve your feelings over what you believe and come clean.

I think you know by now the light is never going away and you cannot hide. Are you righteous and
holy or not? If not, then you have to let others say exactly what you are or be hypocrites. Because
you become the liars, deceivers and workers for the enemy. Maybe you hate these words so much
it will just be a diatribe, but truth never goes away, you need to resolve it, before judgement day.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Is this you "defending the gospel" or you just being the flesh driven wannabe you really are?



Seeing as you no nothing about our fellowship, how it is ran, what discipline procedures we have, you are a now rightly and deservedly called a fool that is making foolish comments....Do you want to continue down this path or take a breath and get offline for awhile?
Dude, I do not know what your major problem is, But your getting old

The bible lays out how we are to discipline a brother or sister in sin, WHat it does not say to do is enable them and let them go on sinning, while attacking the ones who are trying to do what the bible says to do and call them out.

Why don't you call out the sinners with just as much passion as you call me out, If everyone would call the few who are causing this to begin with, We would not have this problem.
 
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Hello Mcfly....

Yep, and here in lies the problem,

Many of us have left for a few months because we got sick of it, We came back, and same old stuff. Same old lies, Same old slander,, Same old everything

Again, Your part of the problem.

it does not matter if this is the internet

we have people CLAIMING to be representing God, We have non believers coming in and watching this, And you have no discipline


 
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eternally-gratefull

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This whole issue could easily be taken care of, If people see peter slandering people withe the same old lies, Call him out, Say peter, they do not believe this, why do you keep insisting they do. If your going to keep this up after being warned, You will no longer be welcome to participate in our conversations until you repent.

The same goes for the other few instigators.

But no, you attack the ones trying to call them out, and do the biblical thing, And they become empowered. and you think that is going to change them?

As mailmandan said earlier, this is getting to be as bad as most christian chats on the internet all because of a few select people who are allowed to run rampant and spew whatever they want about other people. and no one has the guts to call them out on it,
 
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This whole issue could easily be taken care of, If people see peter slandering people withe the same old lies, Call him out, Say peter, they do not believe this, why do you keep insisting they do. If your going to keep this up after being warned, You will no longer be welcome to participate in our conversations until you repent.

The same goes for the other few instigators.

But no, you attack the ones trying to call them out, and do the biblical thing, And they become empowered. and you think that is going to change them?

As mailmandan said earlier, this is getting to be as bad as most christian chats on the internet all because of a few select people who are allowed to run rampant and spew whatever they want about other people. and no one has the guts to call them out on it,
This has nothing to do with anything, but every time I see your name I think of my kids video Toy Story....the three little alien dudes who keep saying to Mr. Potato Head...You saved our lives we are ETERNALLY GRATEFUL HAHAHAH I love it.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjaGl-W1cCM
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This has nothing to do with anything, but every time I see your name I think of my kids video Toy Story....the three little alien dudes who keep saying to Mr. Potato Head...You saved our lives we are ETERNALLY GRATEFUL HAHAHAH I love it.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjaGl-W1cCM
lol.. Thats funny!!,,

Thats how I feel when I think of God, He saved my life forever, and I am eternally grateful.
 
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The apostles answered questions like this simply.
He who says Jesus the son of God came in the flesh, bleed and died for the forgiveness of our
sins has the Holy Spirit.
He who loves His brother and sister in Christ has the Holy Spirit.
He who does the will of God has the Holy Spirit.

He who obeys the commandments through love knows God and is a friend of God.

People are excluded from the Kingdom because of persistent willfull sinful behaviour.
So if you believe they are behaving sinfully confront them with the sin etc.

Now it appears people are saying I am slandering them. Please tell me about what?
I am told I can never walk without being in sin, that to be clean, pure and holy before
the Lord is impossible. Now think a little. If the people who say this are then told they
are being in sin, not pure and holy they are just fulfilling their own words.

If Jesus cleanses use to we are acceptable before the Father, then we are, now today.
Sin does defile us, so needs to be understood isolated and dealt with.

What is odd is how this is all, literally all the issues are about, yet it is spoken like it is a deep
mystery, and such a heinous crime. When are you guys going to be honest and truthful. If you
want to say you are sinners, walking sinfully not cleansed pure of Holy, why is it wrong to state
that as you believe it. Or is the truth the words condemn you, so you flinch so hard, you say
it is satan speaking. It is such a strange contradiction, but the light has to shine and you need
to resolve your feelings over what you believe and come clean.

I think you know by now the light is never going away and you cannot hide. Are you righteous and
holy or not? If not, then you have to let others say exactly what you are or be hypocrites. Because
you become the liars, deceivers and workers for the enemy. Maybe you hate these words so much
it will just be a diatribe, but truth never goes away, you need to resolve it, before judgement day.

A question you might want to ask yourself is .How long must a persons body of death remain sinless before their corrupted body stops aging, decaying leading to death and God stops revealing his wrath. Can we offer dead works of faith as that coming from us offered towards Him?

Do we need his unmerited favor(grace) that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure by working out his will seeing he finished all the work necessary . Or do we work to gain the grace by some wonderful we could do?

Work out the free gift or work fo.r it? Can’t serve two masters

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Phi 2:12


And in respect to what you call a strange contradiction, "but the light has to shine and you need
to resolve your feelings over what you believe and come clean". We walk by faith we are not the light anymore than was John the baptist . His bride is the reflective glory of her husband Christ. There is no work we could do outwardly that can prove we have the Holy Spirit. Those who violate the law of faith and rather walk by sight will not change it.We do not promote they do not but when they do they have a advocate who has paid the full wage


The glory of a invisible God remains invisible. We continue to walk by faith having not recieved the reward in its fullness.

Those who look to their own action as if it has not fallen short of His glory have received their temporal reward, as that seen .

Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
 
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I will just take hebrews at face Value, Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness. The atoning sacrifice was for forgiveness of sin,

The lamb made atonement, Your right, In the OT it was passed over or covered, That is because th eblood of bulls and goats could never take away sin.

Jesus, the lamb of God took away the sin of the world. Your sins are still covered, It is because they are covered, or redeemed, that you are forgiven.

Abrahams sins was covered by Jesus blood, Just likes your and mine is (if your saved)


AMEN.......thanks be to God hey mate......
 
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Dude, I do not know what your major problem is, But your getting old

The bible lays out how we are to discipline a brother or sister in sin, WHat it does not say to do is enable them and let them go on sinning, while attacking the ones who are trying to do what the bible says to do and call them out.

Why don't you call out the sinners with just as much passion as you call me out, If everyone would call the few who are causing this to begin with, We would not have this problem.


I do not call some of the others out because I use the ignore button and do not feel the need to engage them, feed them, pet them, stroke them, defend agaisnt them or otherwise....

I think a very select few of you want to run the BDF the way you want to and censor people you disagree with...that is a great idea...why not go out by the software and server and start your own darn chat board....until then grow some skin
 
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I do not call some of the others out because I use the ignore button and do not feel the need to engage them, feed them, pet them, stroke them, defend agaisnt them or otherwise....

I think a very select few of you want to run the BDF the way you want to and censor people you disagree with
...that is a great idea...why not go out by the software and server and start your own darn chat board....until then grow some skin
I know we agree on some things and disagree on some things, but is the bolded not judging motive? It sure seems that way....just saying bro
 
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This whole issue could easily be taken care of, If people see peter slandering people withe the same old lies, Call him out, Say peter, they do not believe this, why do you keep insisting they do. If your going to keep this up after being warned, You will no longer be welcome to participate in our conversations until you repent.

The same goes for the other few instigators.

But no, you attack the ones trying to call them out, and do the biblical thing, And they become empowered. and you think that is going to change them?

As mailmandan said earlier, this is getting to be as bad as most christian chats on the internet all because of a few select people who are allowed to run rampant and spew whatever they want about other people. and no one has the guts to call them out on it,
The duplicity of your ongoing contradictions is reaching epic proportions
 
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I know we agree on some things and disagree on some things, but is the bolded not judging motive? It sure seems that way....just saying bro
you going to take this perception to EG as well...or does he get a pass...I am calling a spade a spade....

Lynn and EG and few others give the perception they want a private sandbox to play in....they think their tenure should afford them that...fine...go get a server software and they can start their own chat board.....
 
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you going to take this perception to EG as well...or does he get a pass...
Make no mistake....he and I have had our disagreements as well.....and you should know by now I am not afraid to engage anyone bro......and notice the ? in my post....I did not accuse, but asked without heat and or mouth.....!