Are you RIGHTEOUS?
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Yep it will.
If we say someone is saved by works we might as well give them the law and tell them to get on with it.
I would like to say if that's the case I would say "God be with you" but I can't So I would say "Good luck with that"
If God knew works could save us then Jesus wouldn't have had to come down and die on the cross.
Those who say works save abuse the cross.
Dont get me wrong, I do believe we do good works and have been called to do them.
Why would we not want to be like the one we have placed our faith in. We admire him and love him.
I think this whole concept of works and salvation needs to be reversed.
Telling someone works save just puts a burden on them, however saying being like Jesus and walking in the way he has asked us is actually a privilege, the creator of the world trusts us enough to show Jesus to others.
Its an honour and privilege and not a burden.
If we say someone is saved by works we might as well give them the law and tell them to get on with it.
I would like to say if that's the case I would say "God be with you" but I can't So I would say "Good luck with that"
If God knew works could save us then Jesus wouldn't have had to come down and die on the cross.
Those who say works save abuse the cross.
Dont get me wrong, I do believe we do good works and have been called to do them.
Why would we not want to be like the one we have placed our faith in. We admire him and love him.
I think this whole concept of works and salvation needs to be reversed.
Telling someone works save just puts a burden on them, however saying being like Jesus and walking in the way he has asked us is actually a privilege, the creator of the world trusts us enough to show Jesus to others.
Its an honour and privilege and not a burden.
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You believe Paul is a false Prophet?
Galatians 2:19-21
[FONT="]19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.[/FONT]
[FONT="]21I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 3:2-3
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[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 3:10-12
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[FONT="]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
What happens when you read these scriptures? You just tell yourself that you love them and go back to working at the law?
For most people, the Good News is that they don't have to work for their Salvation. They don't have to work for their Righteousness. They don't have to work for their Blessing.
For some people, they haven't realized that they can't add one cubit to their stature. They can't add to their Righteousness by their own work. They can't add to their Salvation by their own work. They can't be blessed by their own work.
It's all a gift and it is spiritually discerned. Meaning you must come to Christ in order to Receive.[/FONT]
Galatians 2:19-21
[FONT="]19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.[/FONT]
[FONT="]21I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 3:2-3
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[FONT="]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 3:10-12
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[FONT="]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
What happens when you read these scriptures? You just tell yourself that you love them and go back to working at the law?
For most people, the Good News is that they don't have to work for their Salvation. They don't have to work for their Righteousness. They don't have to work for their Blessing.
For some people, they haven't realized that they can't add one cubit to their stature. They can't add to their Righteousness by their own work. They can't add to their Salvation by their own work. They can't be blessed by their own work.
It's all a gift and it is spiritually discerned. Meaning you must come to Christ in order to Receive.[/FONT]
Lemme add some more evidence to that:
NASB Translation
abide (16), abides (22), abiding (4), await (1), continue (4), continues (1), endures (3), enduring (1), lasting (2), lives (1), living (1), remain (20), remained (6), remaining (1), remains (8), stand (1), stay (11), stayed (11), staying (3), waiting (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 3306: ἐνμένω
[ἐνμένω, see ἐμμένω and under the word ἐν, III. 3.]
STRONGS NT 3306: μένωμένω; imperfect ἔμενον; future μένω; 1 aorist ἔμεινα; pluperfect μεμενήκειν without augment (1 John 2:19; cf. ἐκβάλλω (and see Tdf. Proleg., p. 120f)); (from Homer down); the Sept. chiefly for עָמַד and קוּם, also for חִכָּה, יָשַׁב, etc.; to remain, abide;
I. intransitively; in reference:
1. to place;
a. properly, equivalent to Latincommoror, to sojourn, tarry: ἐν with the dative of place, Luke 8:27; Luke 10:7; John 7:9; John 11:6; Acts 20:15; Acts 27:31; Acts 28:30 (R G L); 2 Timothy 4:20; with adverbs of place: ἐκεῖ, Matthew 10:11; John 2:12; John 10:40; (John 11:54 WH Tr text); ὧδε, Matthew 26:38; Mark 14:34; παρά τίνι, with one, John 1:39(); ; Acts 18:20 (R G); ; σύν τίνι, Luke 1:56; καθ' ἑαυτόν, dwell at his own House, Acts 28:16, cf. Acts 28:30. equivalent to tarry as a guest, lodge: ποῦ, John 1:38 (); ἐν with the dative of place, Luke 19:5; Acts 9:43; παρά τίνι, in one's house, Acts 9:43; Acts 18:3; Acts 21:8; of tarrying for a night, μετά τίνος, σύν τίνι, Luke 24:29. equivalent to to be kept, to remain: dead bodies ἐπί τοῦ σταυροῦ, John 19:31; τό κλῆμα ἐντῇ ἀμπέλῳ, John 15:4.
b. tropically; α. equivalent to not to depart, not to leave, to continue to be present: μετά τίνος (genitive of person), to maintain unbroken fellowship with one, adhere to his party, 1 John 2:19; to be constantly present to help one, of the Holy Spirit, John 14:16 R G; also παρά with the dative of person, John 14:17; ἐπί τινα, to put forth constant influence upon one, of the Holy Spirit, John 1:32f; also of the wrath of God, John 3:36; τό κάλυμμα ἐπί τῇ ἀναγνώσει, of that which continually prevents the right understanding of what is read, 2 Corinthians 3:14. In the mystic phraseology of John, God is said μένειν in Christ, i. e. to dwell as it were within him, to be continually operative in him by his divine influence and energy, John 14:10; Christians are said μένειν ἐν τῷ Θεῷ, to be rooted as it were in him, knit to him by the spirit they have received from him, 1 John 2:6, 24, 27; 1 John 3:6; hence, one is said μένειν in Christ or in God, and conversely Christ or God is said μένειν in one: John 6:56; John 15:4; 1 John 3:24; 1 John 4:13, 16; ὁ Θεός μένει ἐν αὐτῷ καίαὐτός ἐν τῷ Θεῷ, 1 John 4:15; cf. Rückert, Abendmahl, p. 268f μένειτί ἐν ἐμοί, something has established itself permanently within my soul, and always exerts its power in me: τά ῤήματα μου, John 15:7; ὁλόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ, 1 John 2:14; ἡ χαρά ἡ ἐμή (not joy in me, i. e. of which I am the object, but the joy with which I am filled), John 15:11 Rec.; ὁ ἠκουσατα, 1 John 2:24; the Holy Spirit, John 2:17; John 3:9; ἡἀλήθεια, 2 John 1:2; love toward God, 1 John 3:17; in the same sense one is said ἔχειν τί μένον ἐν ἑαυτῷ, as τόν λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ, John 5:38; ζωήν αἰώνιον, 1 John 3:15. equivalent to to persevere; ἐντίνι, of him who cleaves, holds fast, to a thing: ἐν τῷ λόγῳ, John 8:31; ἐν τῇ ἀγάπη, 1 John 4:16; ἐν πίστει, 1 Timothy 2:15; ἐν οἷς (ἐντούτοις, ἅ) ἔμαθες, 2 Timothy 3:14; ἐν τῇ διδαχή, 2 John 1:9 (ἐντῷ Ἰουδαϊσμῷ, 2 Macc. 8:1); differently ἐν τῇ ἀγάπη τίνος, i. e. to keep oneself always worthy of his love, John 15:9f β. to be held, or kept, continually: ἐν τῷ θανάτῳ, in the state of death, 1 John 3:14; ἐν τῇσκοτία, John 12:46; ἐν τῷ φωτί, 1 John 2:10.
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NASB Translation
abide (16), abides (22), abiding (4), await (1), continue (4), continues (1), endures (3), enduring (1), lasting (2), lives (1), living (1), remain (20), remained (6), remaining (1), remains (8), stand (1), stay (11), stayed (11), staying (3), waiting (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 3306: ἐνμένω
[ἐνμένω, see ἐμμένω and under the word ἐν, III. 3.]
STRONGS NT 3306: μένωμένω; imperfect ἔμενον; future μένω; 1 aorist ἔμεινα; pluperfect μεμενήκειν without augment (1 John 2:19; cf. ἐκβάλλω (and see Tdf. Proleg., p. 120f)); (from Homer down); the Sept. chiefly for עָמַד and קוּם, also for חִכָּה, יָשַׁב, etc.; to remain, abide;
I. intransitively; in reference:
1. to place;
a. properly, equivalent to Latincommoror, to sojourn, tarry: ἐν with the dative of place, Luke 8:27; Luke 10:7; John 7:9; John 11:6; Acts 20:15; Acts 27:31; Acts 28:30 (R G L); 2 Timothy 4:20; with adverbs of place: ἐκεῖ, Matthew 10:11; John 2:12; John 10:40; (John 11:54 WH Tr text); ὧδε, Matthew 26:38; Mark 14:34; παρά τίνι, with one, John 1:39(); ; Acts 18:20 (R G); ; σύν τίνι, Luke 1:56; καθ' ἑαυτόν, dwell at his own House, Acts 28:16, cf. Acts 28:30. equivalent to tarry as a guest, lodge: ποῦ, John 1:38 (); ἐν with the dative of place, Luke 19:5; Acts 9:43; παρά τίνι, in one's house, Acts 9:43; Acts 18:3; Acts 21:8; of tarrying for a night, μετά τίνος, σύν τίνι, Luke 24:29. equivalent to to be kept, to remain: dead bodies ἐπί τοῦ σταυροῦ, John 19:31; τό κλῆμα ἐντῇ ἀμπέλῳ, John 15:4.
b. tropically; α. equivalent to not to depart, not to leave, to continue to be present: μετά τίνος (genitive of person), to maintain unbroken fellowship with one, adhere to his party, 1 John 2:19; to be constantly present to help one, of the Holy Spirit, John 14:16 R G; also παρά with the dative of person, John 14:17; ἐπί τινα, to put forth constant influence upon one, of the Holy Spirit, John 1:32f; also of the wrath of God, John 3:36; τό κάλυμμα ἐπί τῇ ἀναγνώσει, of that which continually prevents the right understanding of what is read, 2 Corinthians 3:14. In the mystic phraseology of John, God is said μένειν in Christ, i. e. to dwell as it were within him, to be continually operative in him by his divine influence and energy, John 14:10; Christians are said μένειν ἐν τῷ Θεῷ, to be rooted as it were in him, knit to him by the spirit they have received from him, 1 John 2:6, 24, 27; 1 John 3:6; hence, one is said μένειν in Christ or in God, and conversely Christ or God is said μένειν in one: John 6:56; John 15:4; 1 John 3:24; 1 John 4:13, 16; ὁ Θεός μένει ἐν αὐτῷ καίαὐτός ἐν τῷ Θεῷ, 1 John 4:15; cf. Rückert, Abendmahl, p. 268f μένειτί ἐν ἐμοί, something has established itself permanently within my soul, and always exerts its power in me: τά ῤήματα μου, John 15:7; ὁλόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ, 1 John 2:14; ἡ χαρά ἡ ἐμή (not joy in me, i. e. of which I am the object, but the joy with which I am filled), John 15:11 Rec.; ὁ ἠκουσατα, 1 John 2:24; the Holy Spirit, John 2:17; John 3:9; ἡἀλήθεια, 2 John 1:2; love toward God, 1 John 3:17; in the same sense one is said ἔχειν τί μένον ἐν ἑαυτῷ, as τόν λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ, John 5:38; ζωήν αἰώνιον, 1 John 3:15. equivalent to to persevere; ἐντίνι, of him who cleaves, holds fast, to a thing: ἐν τῷ λόγῳ, John 8:31; ἐν τῇ ἀγάπη, 1 John 4:16; ἐν πίστει, 1 Timothy 2:15; ἐν οἷς (ἐντούτοις, ἅ) ἔμαθες, 2 Timothy 3:14; ἐν τῇ διδαχή, 2 John 1:9 (ἐντῷ Ἰουδαϊσμῷ, 2 Macc. 8:1); differently ἐν τῇ ἀγάπη τίνος, i. e. to keep oneself always worthy of his love, John 15:9f β. to be held, or kept, continually: ἐν τῷ θανάτῳ, in the state of death, 1 John 3:14; ἐν τῇσκοτία, John 12:46; ἐν τῷ φωτί, 1 John 2:10.
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It's more accurate Stephen, to make a topic list of all the scriptures that use the exact word in the different scriptures to get the correct thought being said.
There can be many words used to mean different things...so its confusing unless one does it this way.
I hope I expressed this simply. I found this out after apply the wrong meanings and saw how one can easily be in error if one does not question.
There can be many words used to mean different things...so its confusing unless one does it this way.
I hope I expressed this simply. I found this out after apply the wrong meanings and saw how one can easily be in error if one does not question.
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2. to Time; to continue to be, i. e. not to perish, to last, to endure: of persons, to survive, live (examples from secular authors are given in Kypke, Observations, i., p. 415f): Philippians 1:25 (so ἐμμένειν, Sir. 39:11); with εἰς τόν αἰῶνα added, John 12:34; Hebrews 7:24; also of him who becomes partaker of the true and everlasting life, opposed to παράγεσθαι, 1 John 2:17; ἕως ἄρτι, opposed to οἱ καιμηθεντες, 1 Corinthians 15:6; ὀλίγον, Revelation 17:10; ἕως ἔρχομαι, John 21:22f; of things, not to perish, to last, stand: of cities, Matthew 11:23; Heb. xiii, 14; of works, opposed to κατακαίεσθαι, 1 Corinthians 3:14; of purposes, moral excellences, Romans 9:11; 1 Corinthians 13:13; Hebrews 13:1; λόγος Θεοῦ, 1 Peter 1:23; (where Rec. adds εἰς τόναἰῶνα added, 2 Corinthians 9:9; τό ῤῆμα27ὁ καρπός, John 15:16; ὕπαρξις, Hebrews 10:34; ἁμαρτία, John 9:41; βρῶσις, opposed to ἡ ἀπολλυμενη, John 6:27; one's δικαιοσύνη with εἰς τόν αἰῶναadded, 2 Corinthians 9:9; τό ῤῆμα κυρίου, 1 Peter 1:25. things which one does not part with are said μένειν to him, i. e. to remain to him, be still in (his) possession: Acts 5:4 (1 Macc. 15:7).
3. to State or Condition; to remain as one is, not to become another or different: with a predicate nominative μόνος, John 12:24; ἀσάλευτος, Acts 27:41; ἄγαμος, 1 Corinthians 7:11; πιστός, 2 Timothy 2:13; ἱερεύς, Hebrews 7:3; with adverbs, οὕτως, 1 Corinthians 7:40; ὡςκἀγώ, ibid. 8; ἐν with the dative of the state, ibid. 20, 24.
II. transitively; τινα, to wait for, await one (cf. Buttmann, § 131, 4): Acts 20:23; with ἐν and the dative of place added, Acts 20:5. (Compare: ἀναμένω, διαμένω, ἐνμένω, ἐπιμένω, καταμένω, παραμένω, συνπαραμένω, περιμένω, προσμένω, ὑπομένω.)
Abiding means to stay, to remain, to continue with.
Why would Jesus tell us to abide with Him if we're already locked in?
Because we're NOT locked in with Christ unless we stay, remain, continue with Him.
Only then are we guaranteed everlasting life.
2. to Time; to continue to be, i. e. not to perish, to last, to endure: of persons, to survive, live (examples from secular authors are given in Kypke, Observations, i., p. 415f): Philippians 1:25 (so ἐμμένειν, Sir. 39:11); with εἰς τόν αἰῶνα added, John 12:34; Hebrews 7:24; also of him who becomes partaker of the true and everlasting life, opposed to παράγεσθαι, 1 John 2:17; ἕως ἄρτι, opposed to οἱ καιμηθεντες, 1 Corinthians 15:6; ὀλίγον, Revelation 17:10; ἕως ἔρχομαι, John 21:22f; of things, not to perish, to last, stand: of cities, Matthew 11:23; Heb. xiii, 14; of works, opposed to κατακαίεσθαι, 1 Corinthians 3:14; of purposes, moral excellences, Romans 9:11; 1 Corinthians 13:13; Hebrews 13:1; λόγος Θεοῦ, 1 Peter 1:23; (where Rec. adds εἰς τόναἰῶνα added, 2 Corinthians 9:9; τό ῤῆμα27ὁ καρπός, John 15:16; ὕπαρξις, Hebrews 10:34; ἁμαρτία, John 9:41; βρῶσις, opposed to ἡ ἀπολλυμενη, John 6:27; one's δικαιοσύνη with εἰς τόν αἰῶναadded, 2 Corinthians 9:9; τό ῤῆμα κυρίου, 1 Peter 1:25. things which one does not part with are said μένειν to him, i. e. to remain to him, be still in (his) possession: Acts 5:4 (1 Macc. 15:7).
3. to State or Condition; to remain as one is, not to become another or different: with a predicate nominative μόνος, John 12:24; ἀσάλευτος, Acts 27:41; ἄγαμος, 1 Corinthians 7:11; πιστός, 2 Timothy 2:13; ἱερεύς, Hebrews 7:3; with adverbs, οὕτως, 1 Corinthians 7:40; ὡςκἀγώ, ibid. 8; ἐν with the dative of the state, ibid. 20, 24.
II. transitively; τινα, to wait for, await one (cf. Buttmann, § 131, 4): Acts 20:23; with ἐν and the dative of place added, Acts 20:5. (Compare: ἀναμένω, διαμένω, ἐνμένω, ἐπιμένω, καταμένω, παραμένω, συνπαραμένω, περιμένω, προσμένω, ὑπομένω.)
Abiding means to stay, to remain, to continue with.
Why would Jesus tell us to abide with Him if we're already locked in?
Because we're NOT locked in with Christ unless we stay, remain, continue with Him.
Only then are we guaranteed everlasting life.
My opinion is that the "perfect" that is to come is when we know that we are "one" with Jesus, the same as He is one with the Father. That this is when the different gifts will be no longer needed. We will live and move and have our being with Him. Right now it's not perfected. Except maybe for a few.
So, we are to remain in the faith, this is true. And we will come to this state as it is His purpose for His body.
So all those definitions are saying it's a progression of knowing Him. There will be that time when the body moves as One.
Will we all obtain to this? No...
Initial faith for salvation is by the blood sacrifice of Jesus alone. And it's His work of salvation even by Holy Spirits progression in our life.
We cooperate for our will is His.
So, we are to remain in the faith, this is true. And we will come to this state as it is His purpose for His body.
So all those definitions are saying it's a progression of knowing Him. There will be that time when the body moves as One.
Will we all obtain to this? No...
Initial faith for salvation is by the blood sacrifice of Jesus alone. And it's His work of salvation even by Holy Spirits progression in our life.
We cooperate for our will is His.
My, my, look at all the likes you got..... I think they recognized you said something that was important to them.
To crash this "like" party, I must mention that I don't believe no way, no how, that salvation is obtained by works.
Never have, & never will.
So, sin YOU were the one that said that, I must assume since you've not been on here long enough to know me, that you were probably coached by one of those "like" people that are backing you.
That means you're working together.
I wasn't born yesterday, & I'm sure most of the readers looking at this wasn't either.
They will see how you reframed my post to make it say something I didn't & see your fraud.
Now boys, put your likes on that.
Grandpa and ALL,
Thank you. I love all the scriptures you have provided and they are in harmony with what I believe. Why do you and others try to twist the Word that is sent you is beyond me. This is done despite me telling you plainly my position between faith and works. You already know I believe we are only saved by Faith in God's Word and not by the works of the Law. I have told you and others this many times. Obedience however is the fruit of salvation which is by faith in God's Word alone.
Do you not believe we have a savior that can to save the sinner from sin? I believe that I am the chiefest of sinners who Christ has come to save because God's perfect Law is my mirror that brings me to Jesus and shows me that all my own righteousness is as filthy rags. It is here when I see who I really am that I can lay hold of the promises of the God of creation by faith and it is His power that works in my weakness to will and to do of His own God pleasure. (2Cor 12:9; Phil 2:13). Yet If I obey Jesus and follow His Word because I love him, you and others accuse me of being under the works of the law?
Do you believe that Jesus can save us from our sins? God's Word teaches us that we have a Savior that has power to save us from sin as we have faith in His Word (John 3:16). Jesus saves us and gives us power to walk in newness of life to grow and be more and more like him everyday as we abide in Him through faith in His promises. I believe God's Word when he says he has given us all things that pertain unto life and godliness through His Word and that he makes us a partaker of the divine nature so that we can follow him and be like him. He has the power to free us from our sins as we have faith in His Words to save us. (2Pet 1:3-4) Jesus says "Whoever commits sin is a servant to sin (John 8:34) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (John 8:32). Salvation is conditional on us continuing in His Word learning of Jesus, believing His Word and taking up our cross daily and following Him (Matt 11:28-29; Matt 16:24-25).
You and others here try to twist what I say for your own benefit because you wish to hold on to your own traditions in place of the Word of God. You are like the Jews of old when Jesus says, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? (Mat 15:3). You hold on to Sunday worship in place of God's 7th Day Sabbath commandment. Yet there is not one verse in the entire bible that tells us to do so. Jesus in His own Words says that the Sabbath was made for man and He is Lord of the Sabbath day (Mark 2:27-28). It is the Lord's Day, God's day, yet you seek to replace God's commandments with the traditions of man, Sunday worship. If you truly love God and were a follower of Him you would obey His Words because you love him. (John 14:15).
The Words that I speak are not my words they are the Words of Him who sent me. If I was not sent of Him I would not speak His Words but because I know Him I speak the Words he gives me. If I was not born of God I would not know him and if I share only God's Word to you why do you now believe Him? It is because men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil (sin) that people do not believe Gods Word (John 3:19-21) God' tells us plainly whosoever is born of God does not commit (known) sin and whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. (1John 3:9; 1John 3:6). If you were of God you would believe his Word and follow him.
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isa 55:6-7) And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. (Jer 29:13)
He must increase and I must decrease (John 3:30). We must point people to the Word of God because it is there you will find Jesus and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. (John 1:1-3; John 8:34; 31-32)
"Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." (Rev 14:7)
If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:47-48)
Thank you. I love all the scriptures you have provided and they are in harmony with what I believe. Why do you and others try to twist the Word that is sent you is beyond me. This is done despite me telling you plainly my position between faith and works. You already know I believe we are only saved by Faith in God's Word and not by the works of the Law. I have told you and others this many times. Obedience however is the fruit of salvation which is by faith in God's Word alone.
Do you not believe we have a savior that can to save the sinner from sin? I believe that I am the chiefest of sinners who Christ has come to save because God's perfect Law is my mirror that brings me to Jesus and shows me that all my own righteousness is as filthy rags. It is here when I see who I really am that I can lay hold of the promises of the God of creation by faith and it is His power that works in my weakness to will and to do of His own God pleasure. (2Cor 12:9; Phil 2:13). Yet If I obey Jesus and follow His Word because I love him, you and others accuse me of being under the works of the law?
Do you believe that Jesus can save us from our sins? God's Word teaches us that we have a Savior that has power to save us from sin as we have faith in His Word (John 3:16). Jesus saves us and gives us power to walk in newness of life to grow and be more and more like him everyday as we abide in Him through faith in His promises. I believe God's Word when he says he has given us all things that pertain unto life and godliness through His Word and that he makes us a partaker of the divine nature so that we can follow him and be like him. He has the power to free us from our sins as we have faith in His Words to save us. (2Pet 1:3-4) Jesus says "Whoever commits sin is a servant to sin (John 8:34) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (John 8:32). Salvation is conditional on us continuing in His Word learning of Jesus, believing His Word and taking up our cross daily and following Him (Matt 11:28-29; Matt 16:24-25).
You and others here try to twist what I say for your own benefit because you wish to hold on to your own traditions in place of the Word of God. You are like the Jews of old when Jesus says, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? (Mat 15:3). You hold on to Sunday worship in place of God's 7th Day Sabbath commandment. Yet there is not one verse in the entire bible that tells us to do so. Jesus in His own Words says that the Sabbath was made for man and He is Lord of the Sabbath day (Mark 2:27-28). It is the Lord's Day, God's day, yet you seek to replace God's commandments with the traditions of man, Sunday worship. If you truly love God and were a follower of Him you would obey His Words because you love him. (John 14:15).
The Words that I speak are not my words they are the Words of Him who sent me. If I was not sent of Him I would not speak His Words but because I know Him I speak the Words he gives me. If I was not born of God I would not know him and if I share only God's Word to you why do you now believe Him? It is because men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil (sin) that people do not believe Gods Word (John 3:19-21) God' tells us plainly whosoever is born of God does not commit (known) sin and whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. (1John 3:9; 1John 3:6). If you were of God you would believe his Word and follow him.
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. (Isa 55:6-7) And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. (Jer 29:13)
He must increase and I must decrease (John 3:30). We must point people to the Word of God because it is there you will find Jesus and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. (John 1:1-3; John 8:34; 31-32)
"Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." (Rev 14:7)
If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:47-48)
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