Not By Works

[JIMBO43]

Ok so my latest question for the workers against is this..


Proverbs 16:7


KJ21
When man’s ways please the Lord, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

ASV
When a man’s ways please Jehovah, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

AMP
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

AMPC
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

BRG
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

CSB
When a person’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

CEB
When people draw favor from the Lord, even their enemies are at peace with them.

CJB
When a man’s ways please Adonai, he makes even the man’s enemies be at peace with him.

CEV
When we please the Lord, even our enemies make friends with us.

DARBY
When a man's ways please Jehovah, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

DRA
When the ways of man shall please the Lord, he will convert even his enemies to peace.

ERV
When people live to please the Lord, even their enemies will be at peace with them.

ESV
When a man's ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

ESVUK
When a man's ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

EXB
When ·people live so that they please the Lord [[SUP]L [/SUP]people’s paths draw the Lord’s favor] even their enemies will make peace with them.

GNV
When the ways of a man please the Lord, he will make also his enemies at peace with him.

GW
When a person’s ways are pleasing to the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

GNT
When you please the Lord, you can make your enemies into friends.

HCSB
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

ICB
A person should live so that he pleases the Lord. If he does, even his enemies will make peace with him.

ISV
When a person’s ways please the Lord, even his enemies will be at peace with him.

JUB
¶ When a man’s ways please the LORD, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

KJV
When a man's ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

AKJV
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

LEB
When the ways of a man are pleasing to Yahweh, even his enemies he will cause to make peace with him.

TLB
When a man is trying to please God, God makes even his worst enemies to be at peace with him.

MSG
When God approves of your life, even your enemies will end up shaking your hand.

MEV
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

NOG
When a person’s ways are pleasing to Yahweh, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

NABRE
When the Lord is pleased with someone’s ways, he makes even enemies be at peace with them.

NASB
When a man’s ways are pleasing to the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

NCV
When people live so that they please the Lord, even their enemies will make peace with them.

NET
When a person’s ways are pleasing to the Lord, he even reconciles his enemies to himself.

NIRV
When the way you live pleases the Lord, he makes even your enemies live at peace with you.

NIV
When the Lord takes pleasure in anyone’s way, he causes their enemies to make peace with them.

NIVUK
When the Lord takes pleasure in anyone’s way, he causes their enemies to make peace with them.

NKJV
When a man’s ways please the Lord, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

NLV
When the ways of a man are pleasing to the Lord, He makes even those who hate him to be at peace with him.

NLT
When people’s lives please the Lord, even their enemies are at peace with them.

NRSV
When the ways of people please the Lord, he causes even their enemies to be at peace with them.

NRSVA
When the ways of people please the Lord, he causes even their enemies to be at peace with them.

NRSVACE
When the ways of people please the Lord, he causes even their enemies to be at peace with them.

NRSVCE
When the ways of people please the Lord, he causes even their enemies to be at peace with them.

OJB
When drakhei ish please Hashem, He maketh even his oyevim to be in shalom with him.

RSV
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

RSVCE
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

TLV
When one’s ways are pleasing to Adonai, he makes even his enemies be at peace with him.

VOICE
When people make good choices, He is pleased; He even causes their enemies to live peacefully near them.

WEB
When a man’s ways please Yahweh, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

WYC
When the ways of (a) man please the Lord, he shall convert, yea, his enemies to peace.

YLT
When a man's ways please Jehovah, even his enemies, He causeth to be at peace with him.



So it seems the lord rids your enemies..... soo would this say only when you do the works i require will you be saved....???????????????????????

 

[dcontroversal]

Where does this verse state that works save or keep saved....it has nothing to do with salvation.....and the statement of the verse is clear.....the only way to get a works based salvation is to deny context, verb tense and the very verbiage of the bible.....and then deny verses such as....

IT pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE....NO WORKS MENTIONED......

QUOTE=JIMBO43;3190656]Ok so my latest question for the workers against is this..


Proverbs 16:7


KJ21
When man’s ways please the Lord, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.





So it seems the lord rids your enemies..... soo would this say only when you do the works i require will you be saved....???????????????????????[/QUOTE]

 

[JIMBO43]

[video=youtube;BhvpXhPzII4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvpXhPzII4[/video]

 

[JIMBO43]

Where does this verse state that works save or keep saved....it has nothing to do with salvation.....and the statement of the verse is clear.....the only way to get a works based salvation is to deny context, verb tense and the very verbiage of the bible.....and then deny verses such as....

IT pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE....NO WORKS MENTIONED......

QUOTE=JIMBO43;3190656]Ok so my latest question for the workers against is this..


Proverbs 16:7


KJ21
When man’s ways please the Lord, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.





So it seems the lord rids your enemies..... soo would this say only when you do the works i require will you be saved....???????????????????????

[/QUOTE]It states when man meaning not all the time does man please the lord so he will not rid your enemies...

 

[dcontroversal]

It states when man meaning not all the time does man please the lord so he will not rid your enemies...[/QUOTE]

Sure.....but that does not equate to a works based salvation......

 

[Ariel82]

Fyi...made it safely back from my trip. Thanks for those who remembered me in your prayers.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Fyi...made it safely back from my trip. Thanks for those who remembered me in your prayers.

Hope you had a great time

 

[Ariel82]

It's awesome to see how 6 teenagers learn to work together as a team to make it 30 miles in the wilderness with just what they could carry on their packs and God.

We meet some Quakers and sang with them.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

30 miles, that's great

 

[JIMBO43]

It states when man meaning not all the time does man please the lord so he will not rid your enemies...

Sure.....but that does not equate to a works based salvation...............

Equate ok so you want a desision on this befor you meet your maker ?

Or would you rather wait to meet your maker when he will say something like are you telling me you expect me to get rid of your enemies that you create for yourself by not pleasing me..

 

[dcontroversal]

Equate ok so you want a desision on this befor you meet your maker ?

Or would you rather wait to meet your maker when he will say something like are you telling me you expect me to get rid of your enemies that you create for yourself by not pleasing me..

We have rode this horse before Jimmy and the bible is clear....Salvation is a present reality for those who have trusted into Christ....

Saved when I believed
Saved right now
Saved into the future

A present continuing result from a past completed action......

 

[BillG]

Fyi...made it safely back from my trip. Thanks for those who remembered me in your prayers.

Get stuck back in here

 

[JIMBO43]

We have rode this horse before Jimmy and the bible is clear....Salvation is a present reality for those who have trusted into Christ....

Saved when I believed
Saved right now
Saved into the future

A present continuing result from a past completed action......

saved yes recieved salvation no

 

[dcontroversal]

saved yes recieved salvation no

The epitome of a works based salvation right here........^^^^^^^^^

 

[Ariel82]

Depends on how you define salvation. We have it to an extent but not the fully glorified bodies promises upon Christ return.

For me salvation is our restored relationship with God and learning to live as His children.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

saved yes recieved salvation no

titus 3:5 says differently,

Your saved or your not saved, there is no in between

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Well I notices Stephen is in other threads trying to spread his gospel, and as usual when he is confronted with something he refuses t answer.

so typical, I hope everyone sees

 

[Stephen63]

you know what is sad, what s sad is you have a belief and will not own it, you need to stand up for what you believe and die for it, r why be there even preaching it,

here is proof, and you walked right into it,

i made a statement of a person who was saved, then god gave them a list of works to do to keep their salvation or god would throw them back into he fire,

what was your response?

Originally Posted by Stephen63

Isn't that what He did in the OT?

Isn't that what He did to Ananias & Sapphira?

God is the same as He alwadys was.

He will not put up with outright rebellion.

so in response to my post asking why God demands works to save us, you said I was wrong, God does demand them,

and now your your going to play games and say you want to know who teaches works?

your being dishonest and decietfull Stephen, and your saying others are being decieptfull when it is You!

as a professed Christian, that is pretty bad! And gives you and your God a bad name!

See the red above? EG says I said we must have works to save us, implying that works saves us.

This is the stunts they pull to reframe what we say , then blast us as liars & works salvationists.

They tell fabricated lies.

EG has been doing the exact same thing to Fran, telling everyone she teaches works salvation, when she posted & posted statements clearly saying we must bear fruit of our faith to prove we are living by faith, otherwise it's dead faith.

She knows that faith without works is dead & that we can't live for God by dead faith.

Confused? You ought to be, for when they're done with you, people have to sort out everything said, or simply take their word for it.

Taking their word for it is very easy, since they have their team backing up every false accusation they make.

The average joe would believe them hands down. We can see why.

I do not believe in works salvation..... never have, never will.

We are saved by grace through faith..... not saved by grace by faith(one-time belief)

The easy believeism folks want everybody to believe their way. That way is a one-time act of faith & it's all done & over with.

That's not true. The Bible explains that we LIVE by faith, a continuous faith in Christ. The just SHALL LIVE by faith.

If we rebel & stop, we are no longer living by faith, no longer abiding in Christ, & are cut off from the vine (Christ).

EG would have you to believe that you can make a "decision" for Christ, & you're saved, & no matter what you do after that, you're still saved.

Most preachers that teach that doctrine also teach prosperity doctrine, WOF, Hypergrace, & OSAS.

EG, if you don't like me, that's one thing. That doesn't give you the privilege to lie on me.
PLEASE STOP.

 

[dcontroversal]

See the red above? EG says I said we must have works to save us, implying that works saves us.

This is the stunts they pull to reframe what we say , then blast us as liars & works salvationists.

They tell fabricated lies.

EG has been doing the exact same thing to Fran, telling everyone she teaches works salvation, when she posted & posted statements clearly saying we must bear fruit of our faith to prove we are living by faith, otherwise it's dead faith.

She knows that faith without works is dead & that we can't live for God by dead faith.

Confused? You ought to be, for when they're done with you, people have to sort out everything said, or simply take their word for it.

Taking their word for it is very easy, since they have their team backing up every false accusation they make.

The average joe would believe them hands down. We can see why.

I do not believe in works salvation..... never have, never will.

We are saved by grace through faith..... not saved by grace by faith(one-time belief)

The easy believeism folks want everybody to believe their way. That way is a one-time act of faith & it's all done & over with.

That's not true. The Bible explains that we LIVE by faith, a continuous faith in Christ. The just SHALL LIVE by faith.

If we rebel & stop, we are no longer living by faith, no longer abiding in Christ, & are cut off from the vine (Christ).

EG would have you to believe that you can make a "decision" for Christ, & you're saved, & no matter what you do after that, you're still saved.

Most preachers that teach that doctrine also teach prosperity doctrine, WOF, Hypergrace, & OSAS.

EG, if you don't like me, that's one thing. that doesn't give you the privilege to lie on me.
PLEASE STOP.

To say one must HAVE works to maintain salvation is a works based salvation.....verb tense and the words eternal and everlasting prove that salvation is a one off by faith.....

Was saved
Am Saved
Continuing to be saved

By the work of Christ.....he began our faith and he will finish our faith.....

as far as Fran in concerned...SHE has repeatedly stated that one must do works to KEEP salvation.....that is a works based salvation regardless of any who want to twist this....the bible does not teach this....as a matter of fact it is clear...believers can be UNFAITHFUL (not that they should) and have works of wood, hay and stubble....

How would you describe works of wood, hay and stubble if FAITHFUL works are of GOLD, SILVER and PRECIOUS STONES?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

See the red above? EG says I said we must have works to save us, implying that works saves us.

This is the stunts they pull to reframe what we say , then blast us as liars & works salvationists.

They tell fabricated lies.

EG has been doing the exact same thing to Fran, telling everyone she teaches works salvation, when she posted & posted statements clearly saying we must bear fruit of our faith to prove we are living by faith, otherwise it's dead faith.

She knows that faith without works is dead & that we can't live for Godby dead faith.

Confused? You ought to be, for when they're done with you, people have to sort out everything said, or simply take their word for it.

Taking their word for it is very easy, since they have their team backing up every false accusation they make.

The average joe would believe them hands down. We can see why.

I do not believe in works salvation..... never have, never will.

We are saved by grace through faith..... not saved by grace by faith(one-time belief)

The easy believeism folks want everybody to believe their way. That way is a one-time act of faith & it's all done & over with.

That's not true. The Bible explains that we LIVE by faith, a continuous faith in Christ. The just SHALL LIVE by faith.

If we rebel & stop, we are no longer living by faith, no longer abiding in Christ, & are cut off from the vine (Christ).

EG would have you to believe that you can make a "decision" for Christ, & you're saved, & no matter what you do after that, you're still saved.

Most preachers that teach that doctrine also teach prosperity doctrine, WOF, Hypergrace, & OSAS.

EG, if you don't like me, that's one thing. That doesn't give you the privilege to lie on me.
PLEASE STOP.

Please stop what

I asked if God gave us a list if f works we must do r he will throw us back in the fire "unsave us"

yu you said yes,

end of story,


There re was no deception, it is plain as day, your denial is deceptive, and is in error,



so are you going to repent, report yourself for preaching works save us, or continue to be shown the deceiver you are?

As for your faith comment, this is works also, your depending in your ability to stay in faith proven by your works, Wh you can not see this deception you have bought into s sad.

You salvation is based on on what you do

my salvation is based on what Christ did

you work to maintain your salvation

i work because. Am saved.