Not By Works
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wouldn't do Hebrews.
Stone had to step in.
My beef was with YOU, never posting scripture.
Now I have to spend time I don't have with Stone, who KNOWS scripture and I have little to argue with her.
I don't know if YOU know scripture because YOU NEVER POST ANY.
You can't just make fluffy comments all the time.
NOT ON THE BDF.
So, look at it this way.
You're not engaging ME, you're helping new Christians reading along.
Do you think I'm here to change YOU?
NO.
I think it's VERY FUNNY that you call me a legalist and a worker.
First of all, I don't think you really know what that is.
Second of all, YOU preach NO works, or at least thatj's what it sounds like.
Is THIS what you believe?
No?
Then just admit it and stop worrying about WHY you do it.
But you won't.
Because you're a hyper-grace believer.
Easy believism. NOT my term.
Even Bill is getting confused because of statements I'm forced to make because you and some Others here are soooooo off to the left.
Come back and live in the Kingdom and BE HAPPY to serve God and be free to work for HIM.
What does it mean to be free anyway?
You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
WHAT IS THE TRUTH??
WHAT ARE WE SET FREE FROM?
Are you going to answer with a one sentence of fluff ??
Stone had to step in.
My beef was with YOU, never posting scripture.
Now I have to spend time I don't have with Stone, who KNOWS scripture and I have little to argue with her.
I don't know if YOU know scripture because YOU NEVER POST ANY.
You can't just make fluffy comments all the time.
NOT ON THE BDF.
So, look at it this way.
You're not engaging ME, you're helping new Christians reading along.
Do you think I'm here to change YOU?
NO.
I think it's VERY FUNNY that you call me a legalist and a worker.
First of all, I don't think you really know what that is.
Second of all, YOU preach NO works, or at least thatj's what it sounds like.
Is THIS what you believe?
No?
Then just admit it and stop worrying about WHY you do it.
But you won't.
Because you're a hyper-grace believer.
Easy believism. NOT my term.
Even Bill is getting confused because of statements I'm forced to make because you and some Others here are soooooo off to the left.
Come back and live in the Kingdom and BE HAPPY to serve God and be free to work for HIM.
What does it mean to be free anyway?
You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.
WHAT IS THE TRUTH??
WHAT ARE WE SET FREE FROM?
Are you going to answer with a one sentence of fluff ??
U
Well actually Dcon started with this.....
Care to retract your statement? Never say Never
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!
English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Care to retract your statement? Never say Never
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!
English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Blah, blah, blah....I post scripture as much if not more than you Fran......and or I reference scripture ALL the time......I even went through and counted my posts and how many had scripture and did the math....not even going to argue with you....I have so changed my ways and yet you are as accusatory and mouthy as ever......and JESUS has set me free.....he saved me eternally by faith......
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The apostle John spoke of both sins of ignorance of which there is an advocate and chastisement, and willful rebellion which leads to death and their is no chastisement........Job had some sins of ignorance that he was chastised for but he did not rebel against God and sin willfully against his conscience, he did not engage in those sins that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom....John said not to even pray for those who are in willful rebellion (sin unto death) because prayer wont help them, only repentance can save them....so we can pray for their repentance......be blessed
A word you really need to learn......
con·text
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noun
noun: context; plural noun: contexts
con·text
ˈkäntekst/
noun
noun: context; plural noun: contexts
- the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
"the decision was taken within the context of planned cuts in spending"
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[TD]circumstances, conditions, factors, state of affairs, situation, background, scene, setting More"the wider historical context"
frame of reference, contextual relationship;
text, subject, theme, topic
"a quote taken out of context"
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- the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.
"word processing is affected by the context in which words appear"
- the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.
“Take heart, I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33)
“Take heart, my son; your sins are forgiven” (Matthew 9:2)
“Ask and it will be given to you…” (Matthew 7:7)
“If the Son has set you free you are free indeed” (John 8:36)
“For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light” (Matthew 11:30)
“My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9)
“Apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5)
“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26)
“Take heart, my son; your sins are forgiven” (Matthew 9:2)
“Ask and it will be given to you…” (Matthew 7:7)
“If the Son has set you free you are free indeed” (John 8:36)
“For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light” (Matthew 11:30)
“My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9)
“Apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5)
“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26)
What I expected.
So, would you say this to a man:
blah blah blah
mouthy
And you post scripture ALL THE TIME.
Where's Magenta?
She LOVES to call people liars.
Just One question and then I'll leave till the next time. (which could be in 5 minutes or one week)
You Shall Know The Truth and the Truth Shall Set You Free.
John 8:32
Free from what?
So, would you say this to a man:
blah blah blah
mouthy
And you post scripture ALL THE TIME.
Where's Magenta?
She LOVES to call people liars.
Just One question and then I'll leave till the next time. (which could be in 5 minutes or one week)
You Shall Know The Truth and the Truth Shall Set You Free.
John 8:32
Free from what?