Not By Works
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I find it ironic and hypocritically self defeating that those who believe this thread should be shut down keep posting.
You have a choice how you spend your time.
I don't post for those who might be reading on the sidelines, because if they don't want to join the conversation that's on them.
I lost only for those who are speaking or have spoken on the thread.
I follow the last couple pages and ask this.....
How do you tell who is speaking words that are demonically influenced?
How do you know you are not counted among the number who is repeating demonic lies that you have judged others of having given voice to?
The Bible tells us how to tell but I wonder how many people actually listen to the wisdom found in James 3?
Also asking what your spiritual state is..whether you are saved is not a personal attack.
I always take it as an invitation to give my testimony and preach the gospel in season and out of season.
I find it odd at how many things people take as personal attacks and get mad and defensive about.
Hate to tell some folks....you aren't the center of the world....most times you aren't being talked about and the conversation isn't about YOU.
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT GOD AND HOW SALVATION IS BY FAITH NOT BY WORKS.
You have a choice how you spend your time.
I don't post for those who might be reading on the sidelines, because if they don't want to join the conversation that's on them.
I lost only for those who are speaking or have spoken on the thread.
I follow the last couple pages and ask this.....
How do you tell who is speaking words that are demonically influenced?
How do you know you are not counted among the number who is repeating demonic lies that you have judged others of having given voice to?
The Bible tells us how to tell but I wonder how many people actually listen to the wisdom found in James 3?
Also asking what your spiritual state is..whether you are saved is not a personal attack.
I always take it as an invitation to give my testimony and preach the gospel in season and out of season.
I find it odd at how many things people take as personal attacks and get mad and defensive about.
Hate to tell some folks....you aren't the center of the world....most times you aren't being talked about and the conversation isn't about YOU.
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT GOD AND HOW SALVATION IS BY FAITH NOT BY WORKS.
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This gave me a new understanding of James 3.
The difference between demonic wisdom and God given wisdom. And also that wisdom is repeated among men.
This links up to several Scriptures regarding Spiritual warfare and the Mind filter given in Philippians.
I didn't notice the connection until now.
Thank you for sharing this.
The difference between demonic wisdom and God given wisdom. And also that wisdom is repeated among men.
This links up to several Scriptures regarding Spiritual warfare and the Mind filter given in Philippians.
I didn't notice the connection until now.
Thank you for sharing this.
this is really good, but many seem to have no desire to examine themselves. they are too busy lecturing others on how one MUST DO GOOD WORKS TO REMAIN saved. so, maybe if they would find a little humility , we could have more fruitful conversation.
and, by the way, no one is speaking against doing good works. only against including them into the salvation that we RECEIVE from the LORD.
and, by the way, no one is speaking against doing good works. only against including them into the salvation that we RECEIVE from the LORD.
you are correct, to read simple words , must be a challenge to fools that keep posting,
14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.Romans 2: God's Righteous Judgment
mind and repent, before you read ,them word, could cause confusion, to religious studies.
14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.Romans 2: God's Righteous Judgment
mind and repent, before you read ,them word, could cause confusion, to religious studies.
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I trusted in Christ for the forgiveness of my sin.
Then I started growing up into righteous works AS A RESULT.
If I had not started that growth, I would be showing myself to not really have received the forgiveness of God. But so many are sure their fruitless, dead faith is indeed the faith that somehow saved them and prepared them for the day of judgment. And they get very defensive and angry and dogmatic if you dare suggest otherwise.
Then I started growing up into righteous works AS A RESULT.
If I had not started that growth, I would be showing myself to not really have received the forgiveness of God. But so many are sure their fruitless, dead faith is indeed the faith that somehow saved them and prepared them for the day of judgment. And they get very defensive and angry and dogmatic if you dare suggest otherwise.
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Name one person who States that "their fruitless, dead faith is indeed the faith that somehow saved them", please?
I must have missed reading that person's post.
Everyone I have taken the time to talk to in this thread believe that a dead faith saves no one.
What the issue is saying works is reauired/necessary to earn or maintain salvation.
Only a living and active faith is needed, which God will use to produce fruit.., which is different than outward works of men.
I must have missed reading that person's post.
Everyone I have taken the time to talk to in this thread believe that a dead faith saves no one.
What the issue is saying works is reauired/necessary to earn or maintain salvation.
Only a living and active faith is needed, which God will use to produce fruit.., which is different than outward works of men.
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14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.Romans 2: God's Righteous Judgment
repent because of that verse numb nut. and bind the world, wile your at it , your to thick understand, why this slice of rock , you want turned to bread. came in the form of writen words.
repent because of that verse numb nut. and bind the world, wile your at it , your to thick understand, why this slice of rock , you want turned to bread. came in the form of writen words.