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Your heart beat is an involuntary bodily function and not a work the action of your will has any influence over except maybe to stop it if you were to commit seppuku.
ive never herd of seppuku are you beeing funny again or cleaver..

hmm i dunno about the seppuka but i know our plannet feeds the sun with nuclear attoms
 

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ive never herd of seppuku are you beeing funny again or cleaver..

hmm i dunno about the seppuka but i know our plannet feeds the sun with nuclear attoms
Seppuku is the Japanese form of committing suicide by disembowelment.
 
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the heart is controlled by the mind ,,,, the mind never sleeps but the heart goes lazy for a while..what powers the mind ?..
 

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I trusted in Christ for the forgiveness of my sin.
Then I started growing up into righteous works AS A RESULT.
If I had not started that growth, I would be showing myself to not really have received the forgiveness of God. But so many are sure their fruitless, dead faith is indeed the faith that somehow saved them and prepared them for the day of judgment. And they get very defensive and angry and dogmatic if you dare suggest otherwise.
And I think the important point is (after forgiveness of sins)

"Growing up into righteous works as a result"

Growing up and growing in maturity.

Now if we do not see growing up or works (and we need to be very very careful here when making a judgement call here, unless it's purely blatant of course, and even if it is)

We need find out what is going on and why.

If it becomes apparent that someone has said the sinners prayer but has no intention of change then time to wipe the dust of your feet.

However if someone has the will to change but is struggling for what ever reason then it's time to buy a new pair of sandals and walk with them.

Jesus spent 3 years on earth doing that and spent the last 2000 years doing it as well.
 
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this is the one true christian on the face of this plannet :rolleyes: [video=youtube;Mjwdn0XAjgk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjwdn0XAjgk[/video]
 
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the heart is controlled by the mind ,,,, the mind never sleeps but the heart goes lazy for a while..what powers the mind ?..

The heart controls the mind. you have this backwards,

 
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this is the one true christian on the face of this plannet :rolleyes: [video=youtube;Mjwdn0XAjgk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjwdn0XAjgk[/video]
play from 8 minutes my hope is that you will all see what knowing it all does to a person
 
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Originally Posted by JIMBO43

so when your body goes into a coma what keeps the heart alive then ?

maybe i should note that a machine keeps the heart alive
maybe i should also note when your lose consciousness your sub consciousness kicks in and keeps the heart alive
 
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i wreckon your sub conscious is an entity
maybe i should have also noted to think as your sub conscious as a ball of nicol and iron core of that like in the sun. that fights of gravity for billions of years..
 
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maybe the power that be decided how much they like a superbowl or a great sporting event theyve decide to keep us alive for ever ? anythings possible with God right ;)
 

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maybe i should have also noted to think as your sub conscious as a ball of nicol and iron core of that like in the sun. that fights of gravity for billions of years..
Your sub-conscience has existed for billions of years, fighting gravity?
 
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per Cambridge dictionary.

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something that exists apart from other things, having its own independent existence:

So would you say the sub conscious is independent from the conscious?

If so, how so and why so.
its independant coz it can exist in a single cell life or energy that is. entities also have energy.. thats why sometimes the tv goes funny or your radio or mobile phone suddenly goes funny..
 
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so when your body goes into a coma what keeps the heart alive then ?
God?

ps. The bible calls the soul or consciousness the heart. That is what I thought you were talking about, forgive me if not.


Where the heart is, that is where the mind will go.