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posthuman

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A vet told me there is no reason to let a cat outside. Recently I heard that they live twice as long if they are kept indoors.

well there's no medical reason they need to go out. but i've met more cats who wanted to spend at least some time outside than cats who never did. though, yes, i've met cats of both kinds. cats of both slants live with me now, even!

keeping them in protects them from a lot of potential harm - from traffic, from wild animals, from other cats, from people too daft to keep their dogs contained. etc. so probability-wise on average they live longer. but i have a 24 year old cat here who spent most of her first 10 years outside, and gradually decided she didn't want to bother with it much anymore. and i have a cat around 15 who comes in and out as he pleases, and always has. now, in the summer, he spends a lot more of his day inside in the AC, and his nights outside, when it's cooler, and there are fun things like toads to chase. in the winter, when it's cold, he spends more time inside overall, where it's warm. but overall he's outside probably 75% of his time.

it's true that his chances are worse being able to go in and out as he does, but he's an old cat whose gained a lot of kitty-wisdom over the years and knows how to generally look after himself - we're in a very low-traffic neighborhood and have a safe fenced yard ((tho he jumps it, its a safety-zone from certain other critters)) - which certainly helps. there are a lot of factors in his favor, but i know he's been blessed to have gotten to where he is, and been safe all these years.

letting cats in & out used to be a no-brainer for me, but heartache has caused me in more recent years to keep our newer little ones in, unless i go out with them, and then just those i trust to come when i call. i hate to deny them all the joy they get from the outdoors, but i hate to fail to protect them, at the same time, you know?
& then i have a couple old tomcats who have spent all their lives outside, whose routines i'm not going to challenge.
 
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keep him inside for 6-8 weeks. first time u let him/her out make a loud noise like with 2 saucepans clanging then he'll run back in the house and kno how get home from then on;)
Interesting.
This works for my husband too.
 
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no, he doesn't...YET.

I'm sure he'll have a lot to say, on the right topic....
Yes. And make sure you brainwash him to your way of thinking....
Easier to get along that way...
:)
 

AllenW

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Yes. And make sure you brainwash him to your way of thinking....
Easier to get along that way...
:)
And don't worry about when they cough up hair balls, it's quite alright.
 
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And don't worry about when they cough up hair balls, it's quite alright.
I do believe there's a way to prevent that.

Anybody know it???

(oil in water once a week? - or is that an old-wives tale??)
 
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A vet told me there is no reason to let a cat outside. Recently I heard that they live twice as long if they are kept indoors.

Boy, you sure do have a cutie.
I think it's kind of mean to Always keep them inside.
But I do understand that they would live longer.

I think that if they get neutered? they tend to stay hear home...
Not sure.
 
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Keep it inside, indoor cats are healthier and zero chance of getting run over, killed or stolen. Give it kitten food for awhile, always keep water bowl filled. Keep toilet lid closed at all times!! Some cats prefer toilet water, it's colder.. Keep poopy box clean, give it lots of toys and play with it. Pick it up and handle it alot..
He follows me all over the house!
I have to be careful not to squoosh him.
When I'm here at the computer, he sleeps in a little box I put here for him with a wool blanket in it.
He sleeps a lot...
 
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well there's no medical reason they need to go out. but i've met more cats who wanted to spend at least some time outside than cats who never did. though, yes, i've met cats of both kinds. cats of both slants live with me now, even!

keeping them in protects them from a lot of potential harm - from traffic, from wild animals, from other cats, from people too daft to keep their dogs contained. etc. so probability-wise on average they live longer. but i have a 24 year old cat here who spent most of her first 10 years outside, and gradually decided she didn't want to bother with it much anymore. and i have a cat around 15 who comes in and out as he pleases, and always has. now, in the summer, he spends a lot more of his day inside in the AC, and his nights outside, when it's cooler, and there are fun things like toads to chase. in the winter, when it's cold, he spends more time inside overall, where it's warm. but overall he's outside probably 75% of his time.

it's true that his chances are worse being able to go in and out as he does, but he's an old cat whose gained a lot of kitty-wisdom over the years and knows how to generally look after himself - we're in a very low-traffic neighborhood and have a safe fenced yard ((tho he jumps it, its a safety-zone from certain other critters)) - which certainly helps. there are a lot of factors in his favor, but i know he's been blessed to have gotten to where he is, and been safe all these years.

letting cats in & out used to be a no-brainer for me, but heartache has caused me in more recent years to keep our newer little ones in, unless i go out with them, and then just those i trust to come when i call. i hate to deny them all the joy they get from the outdoors, but i hate to fail to protect them, at the same time, you know?
& then i have a couple old tomcats who have spent all their lives outside, whose routines i'm not going to challenge.
Over here cats could get leukemia from other infected cats.
Although I do live in a very small area with hardly any traffic at all and no cats that do not belong to anyone.
I worry about him maybe wandering away from home more than anything...

If he stayed in the yard and on the porch, I'd sent him out even now....
But he's too little right now. Like a baby.
 

posthuman

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Over here cats could get leukemia from other infected cats.
Although I do live in a very small area with hardly any traffic at all and no cats that do not belong to anyone.
I worry about him maybe wandering away from home more than anything...

If he stayed in the yard and on the porch, I'd sent him out even now....
But he's too little right now. Like a baby.
i've got one that comes out to do yardwork with me sometimes. i have my work, he has his. important things to sniff and whack.
since he was little i only let him out with me, never alone, and whenever he went to a part of the yard where i couldn't see him, i'd find him, scoop him up and put him back near me. if he gets bratty he goes back inside. if he jumps on the fence, it's a multi-day ban. i don't want him getting out where he could get hurt. so, he's learned well - he comes whenever i call, and doesn't stray far. usually all he wants to do is chase grasshoppers and lizards near the porch anyway :)

a lot is in how well, and how much, you & your cat communicate. hey're very smart little buggers, but you have to respect them and treat them like they're smart. they'll blow you off if they figure you're always blowing them off too.
 

posthuman

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I think it's kind of mean to Always keep them inside.
But I do understand that they would live longer.

I think that if they get neutered? they tend to stay hear home...
Not sure.
yeah i feel that way too. tho i have a couple i know don't want out at all. i could leave all the doors and windows wide open, and they'd be sitting on the couch. & there's one who is really skittish, and generally won't come to me if i call for him, so i can't let him go, because i'm afraid he'll get spooked by something and run off, and i wouldn't be able to get him back. he was a feral we rescued when he was a kitten, and still generally untrusting - any loud noise or commotion and he kind loses it and runs off to hide. i try to make up for his confinement to him by catching things outside sometimes and bringing them in for him to see ((and snack on!)). big fan of delicious moths.

& definitely spay/neuter. with tomcats, even if they'll never go outside, they'll be less aggressive, more family-centric, and if you don't, he'll much more likely than not be spraying all over the house to mark his territory!
 
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i've got one that comes out to do yardwork with me sometimes. i have my work, he has his. important things to sniff and whack.
since he was little i only let him out with me, never alone, and whenever he went to a part of the yard where i couldn't see him, i'd find him, scoop him up and put him back near me. if he gets bratty he goes back inside. if he jumps on the fence, it's a multi-day ban. i don't want him getting out where he could get hurt. so, he's learned well - he comes whenever i call, and doesn't stray far. usually all he wants to do is chase grasshoppers and lizards near the porch anyway :)

a lot is in how well, and how much, you & your cat communicate. hey're very smart little buggers, but you have to respect them and treat them like they're smart. they'll blow you off if they figure you're always blowing them off too.
Wow.
So much good advice.
Will do what you said regarding taking him out.
I'll also try to get him to work.
You know me... I'm a "works" person! (not really - just misunderstood)

Oh. And I like how you ground him!
Pretty funny.

Thanks!!
 
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yeah i feel that way too. tho i have a couple i know don't want out at all. i could leave all the doors and windows wide open, and they'd be sitting on the couch. & there's one who is really skittish, and generally won't come to me if i call for him, so i can't let him go, because i'm afraid he'll get spooked by something and run off, and i wouldn't be able to get him back. he was a feral we rescued when he was a kitten, and still generally untrusting - any loud noise or commotion and he kind loses it and runs off to hide. i try to make up for his confinement to him by catching things outside sometimes and bringing them in for him to see ((and snack on!)). big fan of delicious moths.

& definitely spay/neuter. with tomcats, even if they'll never go outside, they'll be less aggressive, more family-centric, and if you don't, he'll much more likely than not be spraying all over the house to mark his territory!
Oooh. No spraying.
If my husband ever smelled anything, he'd wouldn't want him in he house.
His litter box is upstairs now, but little by little it's going to end up in the garage.
I don't think he could find his way there right now.

It's like raising a kid!
 

AllenW

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Too funny!

yeah. What's the use of trying.
He ends up getting his way!
I feel sooooo used !!
So how's the dumb cat doing these days?
 
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So how's the dumb cat doing these days?
Let's see...

Posthuman is right. He comes to sleep with me on the couch.
I think he likes to feel me breathing.

He kind of does whatever he wants. Which is fine with me --- but no going
on any countertops - or the table. He's good like that, so no problem.

He follows me all over the house. Sits and my bed and watches me straighten out in the morning.

He's still little. Good!

I think he thinks he's the King of the abode....
 

AllenW

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Let's see...

Posthuman is right. He comes to sleep with me on the couch.
I think he likes to feel me breathing.

He kind of does whatever he wants. Which is fine with me --- but no going
on any countertops - or the table. He's good like that, so no problem.

He follows me all over the house. Sits and my bed and watches me straighten out in the morning.

He's still little. Good!

I think he thinks he's the King of the abode....
I like cats.
Can I borrow him for a couple of days?
 
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I like cats.
Can I borrow him for a couple of days?
Sure.
Come get him.

But just for two days.

(I'm kind of worried you may not bring him back. He's tooooooo cute!)


 

AllenW

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Sure.
Come get him.

But just for two days.

(I'm kind of worried you may not bring him back. He's tooooooo cute!)


I'm gonna change his name.
I'm gonna call him brat cat.
Makes me think of you.