The Rapture

[KJV1611]

Any comments on this, her warfare is over and her iniquity is pardoned, she has received double for her sins. Next John the Baptist shows up.

Isaiah 40:1-4 KJV
[1] Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.

[2] Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

[3] The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord , make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

[4] Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

 

[valiant]

if u who are reading this are thinking about whats da right view. ask yourself this question: whos got all da answers? whos got countless verses they cant explain? people who believed israel would return to the land in 1800 were considered nuts but look now here is israel back in the land. u will never go wrong by just believing the bible, even if it seems unbelievable.

DNA proves that at least 90% of the people who form 'Israel' are not descended from Abraham.

 

[Snoozy]

DNA proves that at least 90% of the people who form 'Israel' are not descended from Abraham.

oh did they find jacob's grave and test it????

 

[Locutus]

If any have a claim the land it would be Christians and not unbelieving "Jews" - the promises to Abraham are actually the promises to his seed Christ.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.

And see as we are Christ then we also inherit the promises:

Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

I demand me a piece of Palestine according to the promise....I gots rights..

 

[Bogadile]

If any have a claim the land it would be Christians and not unbelieving "Jews" - the promises to Abraham are actually the promises to his seed Christ.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.

And see as we are Christ then we also inherit the promises:

Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

I demand me a piece of Palestine according to the promise....I gots rights..

Well start packing then.

 

[heartofdavid]

For those who vainly try to use typology as meaningful. You can prove anything from typology.

yeah,who'd a thought a bride was a bride,a gentile was a gentile,a jew was a jew,and a rich jew purchased his gentile bride,and redeemed the the land ,then lived with them both in their inheritance?

Just has to be a coincidence.

 

[heartofdavid]

Originally Posted by PlainWord

I haven't met a futurist yet with an ounce of spiritual insight. You all keep thinking, body, body, body. God is the God of the living, not the dead. Until you figure out that it is the soul that is clothed with the body (first the physical, then the spiritual), you will continue in your error. The physical decayed, dead, returned-to-dust, flesh and blood body doesn't put on the new body. The soul puts on the new body.

Christ had the only physical body that did not face corruption. He was the lone exception.

John 11;
[FONT=&quot]39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

There was also someone dead less than 4 days ,and was made alive like Jesus.

You are wrong[/FONT]

 

[heartofdavid]

Originally Posted by Locutus

If any have a claim the land it would be Christians and not unbelieving "Jews" - the promises to Abraham are actually the promises to his seed Christ.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.

And see as we are Christ then we also inherit the promises:

Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

I demand me a piece of Palestine according to the promise....I gots rights..

Well start packing then.

Replacement theology comes with a price,namely,removing Romans from the bible.

sad

 

[PlainWord]

How much more plain can it get? There must be something wrong if one cannot see this. Our bodies will be raised into immortality, imperishable and glorified bodies.

Sorry guys, I'm not an Ophthalmologist. Not going to be able to help you.

 

[Bogadile]

I do not know about you but there are more and more news coming about RFID technology being implemented here and there and everywhere, it seems to me there is a real possibility we can see things go down real soon.

I know it is hard to believe that people would take the mark of the beast after so many warnings. But the truth is I would not doubt it for one second seeing how the world is today.
Before anyone gets too excited I am not saying RFID chips are the mark of the beast, however we must admit the fact that it would be something that is put in the hand and you can buy or sell with it, so it matches. In fact it is the only thing in the history of the world to have fit.

Study and pray, study and pray.

 

[PlainWord]

John 11;
39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.
40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

There was also someone dead less than 4 days ,and was made alive like Jesus.

You are wrong

Was Lazarus raised a spiritual being? That's a news flash to me.

"...nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."

Did Lazarus become like an angel? If so, please show me the verse.

Don't confuse bringing a physical body back to life with obtaining a spiritual body. Those are two very different things. Again, futurists can only think carnally about terrestrial matters, body, body, body. So sad.

I guess it's my fault trying to feed some of you meat when you're barely ready for milk.

 

[Bogadile]

Was Lazarus raised a spiritual being? That's a news flash to me.

"...nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."

Did Lazarus become like an angel? If so, please show me the verse.

Don't confuse bringing a physical body back to life with obtaining a spiritual body. Those are two very different things. Again, futurists can only think carnally about terrestrial matters, body, body, body. So sad.

I guess it's my fault trying to feed some of you meat when you're barely ready for milk.

The irony of it is that you are on the outside of Christian orthodoxy looking in and calling the Church carnal.

The resurrection is future and Jesus is coming back.

 

[KJV1611]

What's the futurists view on this new heaven and new earth? The flesh Israelites name is a curse to God's chosen people and the Lord is going to slay them. And then comes the new heaven and new earth. What does this mean?

Isaiah 65:15-17 KJV
[15] And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

[16] That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

[17] For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

 

[Bogadile]

What's the futurists view on this new heaven and new earth? The flesh Israelites name is a curse to God's chosen people and the Lord is going to slay them. And then comes the new heaven and new earth. What does this mean?

Isaiah 65:15-17 KJV
[15] And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

[16] That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.

[17] For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

From what I have read, most of them put Isaiah 65:15-25 to the millennial kingdom. I am still undecided on what it could mean due to it saying new heaven and new earth and not millennial kingdom or kingdom of heaven or something like that.

 

[tanakh]

For those who vainly try to use typology as meaningful. You can prove anything from typology.

As with anything else typology can be misused, and often is but there is a correct use for it and the Bible itself reveals it.

 

[KJV1611]

From what I have read, most of them put Isaiah 65:15-25 to the millennial kingdom. I am still undecided on what it could mean due to it saying new heaven and new earth and not millennial kingdom or kingdom of heaven or something like that.

The timing on the verses is when God separated his chosen ones from amongst the bad Jews.... at the first coming of Christ.

 

[Locutus]

Unfortunately for the futurists expecting the "jews" to be regathered, yus outta luck.

The slave woman's children were cast out never to return:

Gal 4:30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.”

All this worry warting over people claiming to be the descendants of the slave woman has clouded your thinking.

 

[Bogadile]

The timing on the verses is when God separated his chosen ones from amongst the bad Jews.... at the first coming of Christ.

A new heaven and earth were created when Jesus came the first time? How about no.

 

[PlainWord]

If any have a claim the land it would be Christians and not unbelieving "Jews" - the promises to Abraham are actually the promises to his seed Christ.

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.

And see as we are Christ then we also inherit the promises:

Gal 3:29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

I demand me a piece of Palestine according to the promise....I gots rights..

Of course my friend here is speaking in spiritual terms. LOC, you are only going to confuse them.

 

[Bogadile]

Of course my friend here is speaking in spiritual terms. LOC, you are only going to confuse them.

There was a translation error, let me fix that, by "spiritual" you mean gnostic minority ideas outside of Christian Orthodoxy*