North Korea is planning an attack on Guam just in the news..

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Billyd

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The THAAD Missile system has been deployed along most of the paths that little fat boy can use to launch a missile attack us. The prudent thing to do is double down on the production and deployment of this system. If little fat boy launches an attack, our first responsibility is to minimize any damage done to the homeland. The next action should be to unleash a barrage of conventional weapons on the political, and military sites, that would make Baghdad look like a fourth of July fire works show. That action must start at the DMZ and proceed to the Chinese border. Give him an hour to surrender. If he doesn't, launch a second wave. Withhold nuclear weapons until one of his explodes any where on the globe. Then it's time to turn the giant loose.
 

hornetguy

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The THAAD Missile system has been deployed along most of the paths that little fat boy can use to launch a missile attack us. The prudent thing to do is double down on the production and deployment of this system. If little fat boy launches an attack, our first responsibility is to minimize any damage done to the homeland. The next action should be to unleash a barrage of conventional weapons on the political, and military sites, that would make Baghdad look like a fourth of July fire works show. That action must start at the DMZ and proceed to the Chinese border. Give him an hour to surrender. If he doesn't, launch a second wave. Withhold nuclear weapons until one of his explodes any where on the globe. Then it's time to turn the giant loose.
Now THAT sounds like a good plan.

Or, you could modify it to have our troops along with the S Korean troops follow the second wave of true shock and awe with a clean-up sweep all the way north, eliminating anything that even appears to be military in nature.

Clean the slate, make Korea one civilized nation again.
 

notbythesword

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I’d be willing to bet that our government has done some serious consideration in the assassination area. If Kim was assassinated, it would leave a small “possibility” for a coup to take place among the remaining generals and current leaders. However, most have been so brainwashed since birth, that many no longer think freely.

I have a feeling that something similar to what was done in Iraq during the “shock and awe” campaign would need to be done here…only on a much grander scale. A full-blown war with North Korea would be catastrophic for the South Koreans though.

I’d also just say that it is important not to let the Iranian development of nuclear weapons be overshadowed and forgotten about because of the current North Korean crisis. They are just as radical, if not more so than the North Koreans. Both are problems that will soon need to be dealt with.

Any large-scale military campaign that would take place in North Korea is sure to raise red flags in China as well. They have already been increasing their aggression in the South China Sea. I would really be concerned that this could develop into something unprecedented. Only thing is, doing nothing may lead to an even bigger catastrophe down the road.
 
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I’d be willing to bet that our government has done some serious consideration in the assassination area. If Kim was assassinated, it would leave a small “possibility” for a coup to take place among the remaining generals and current leaders. However, most have been so brainwashed since birth, that many no longer think freely.

I have a feeling that something similar to what was done in Iraq during the “shock and awe” campaign would need to be done here…only on a much grander scale. A full-blown war with North Korea would be catastrophic for the South Koreans though.

I’d also just say that it is important not to let the Iranian development of nuclear weapons be overshadowed and forgotten about because of the current North Korean crisis. They are just as radical, if not more so than the North Koreans. Both are problems that will soon need to be dealt with.

Any large-scale military campaign that would take place in North Korea is sure to raise red flags in China as well. They have already been increasing their aggression in the South China Sea. I would really be concerned that this could develop into something unprecedented. Only thing is, doing nothing may lead to an even bigger catastrophe down the road.
Yes, several past administrations have certainly screwed us. And now we are stuck with what they created.
 

Monnkai

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I just read a huffington post article about it and it says (I don't know how truthful it is) but Kim Jong un is not crazy. If he was he wouldn't be alive for so long, and the history doesn't support it. Same goes for Trump he's not the idiot trigger happy fool the media portrays him as. There is absolutely nothing to gain from either sides attacking and nuclear deterrent does indeed work quite well
 

Billyd

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Now THAT sounds like a good plan.

Or, you could modify it to have our troops along with the S Korean troops follow the second wave of true shock and awe with a clean-up sweep all the way north, eliminating anything that even appears to be military in nature.

Clean the slate, make Korea one civilized nation again.
The NK army is a far cry from any middle eastern army and so is the terrain. They won't surrender and they will fight until the last man is gone. They have been digging in since July 27, 1953.

Our best bet is to quickly destroy as many bunkers as we can, and force the remaining forces to remain hunkered down until the run out of food. In any case, the challenge will be to protect the SK people.
 

tanakh

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The NK army is a far cry from any middle eastern army and so is the terrain. They won't surrender and they will fight until the last man is gone. They have been digging in since July 27, 1953.

Our best bet is to quickly destroy as many bunkers as we can, and force the remaining forces to remain hunkered down until the run out of food. In any case, the challenge will be to protect the SK people.
Apart from their regular army they have most of the NK population as reservists. I wonder how many are brainwashed
into believing they can win?
 

Desdichado

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From what I hear there are North Koreans going against their programming. Part of the reason why the regime has taken a more aggressive footing.

War has a way of quelling civil disobedience.

Will they fight to the last man? I don't know. But my guess is no. But it's just a guess built on anecdotal evidence.

Apart from their regular army they have most of the NK population as reservists. I wonder how many are brainwashed
into believing they can win?
 

JonahLynx

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I’d also just say that it is important not to let the Iranian development of nuclear weapons be overshadowed and forgotten about because of the current North Korean crisis. They are just as radical, if not more so than the North Koreans.
Iran isn't even in the same universe of stupidity as North Korea. NK is legitimately delusional, Iran pretends to be aggressive for its own political leverage.
 

Desdichado

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I agree. NK is in the psych ward. Iran is a medicated sociopath.

Iran isn't even in the same universe of stupidity as North Korea. NK is legitimately delusional, Iran pretends to be aggressive for its own political leverage.
 

Billyd

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From what I hear there are North Koreans going against their programming. Part of the reason why the regime has taken a more aggressive footing.

War has a way of quelling civil disobedience.

Will they fight to the last man? I don't know. But my guess is no. But it's just a guess built on anecdotal evidence.
We have a country stuck in the 1950's with nuclear weapons. They really agreed to an armistice in 1953 because they didn't have a nuclear weapon and then only after a lot of prodding from China.

Don't sell them short. Little Fat Boy has watched the US for the past two decades. He knows our weaknesses better than we do. If he feels that he can exploit them to his own gain, he will not hesitate to take the US on. Our test is whether the people will have the fortitude to accept a heavy loss on our side.
 
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We have a country stuck in the 1950's with nuclear weapons. They really agreed to an armistice in 1953 because they didn't have a nuclear weapon and then only after a lot of prodding from China.

Don't sell them short. Little Fat Boy has watched the US for the past two decades. He knows our weaknesses better than we do. If he feels that he can exploit them to his own gain, he will not hesitate to take the US on. Our test is whether the people will have the fortitude to accept a heavy loss on our side.
Unfortunately you're so close to what probably is the key here that it hurts reading it. NK has prepared its people for death for decades. Not only their soldiers, but their people are prepared to die. Needless to say, this makes both excellent soldiers and even more important, excellent civilians for the cause of war.

What do the US have? Soldiers longing for lazy drinks and civilians that can't handle flag draped coffins...

The armed forces needs a revolution, not only in the US, but in the entire western world. They need to stop this cocky speak of winning in three days, and start preparing for what war really is. Only then the West can win...our adversaries have peace with death, but our soldiers are so scared of it that we can never win in the long run if we don't realize this.

The sad truth is that the West has grown weak and the vultures are closing in on us.

Too many soft civilians with recliner butts and gelly bellys has been in charge. We need a warrior who can walk the line.
 
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We need Jesus Christ in our hearts in order to obey Him when He Commands,
and not a man...
 

Desdichado

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I don't believe I indicated their regime was weak.

All I said is that there is video evidence which indicates the DPRK doesn't have as tight a grip on the population as they had about a decade ago. Their indoctrination may not go so deep that they fight to the last man.

Emphasis on the word "may."


We have a country stuck in the 1950's with nuclear weapons. They really agreed to an armistice in 1953 because they didn't have a nuclear weapon and then only after a lot of prodding from China.

Don't sell them short. Little Fat Boy has watched the US for the past two decades. He knows our weaknesses better than we do. If he feels that he can exploit them to his own gain, he will not hesitate to take the US on. Our test is whether the people will have the fortitude to accept a heavy loss on our side.
 
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We have a country stuck in the 1950's with nuclear weapons. They really agreed to an armistice in 1953 because they didn't have a nuclear weapon and then only after a lot of prodding from China.

Don't sell them short. Little Fat Boy has watched the US for the past two decades. He knows our weaknesses better than we do. If he feels that he can exploit them to his own gain, he will not hesitate to take the US on. Our test is whether the people will have the fortitude to accept a heavy loss on our side.
I'll be willing to sacrifice Frisco, LA, and Portland, right now. ...... as long as Hollywood is included.
 

JonahLynx

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I'll be willing to sacrifice Frisco, LA, and Portland, right now. ...... as long as Hollywood is included.
Will agree to terms in return for the states of West Virginia and Iowa.
 
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I desire for all of our people to be safe and secure inside of Jesus' arms, but alas,
when He's thrown into the ditch by so many, as history has shown us,
He will only take so much dis-respect...
 

Dude653

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General Mattis is encouraging Trump to try to reach a diplomatic solution but he is locked and loaded in case NK decides to make good on their threats
 
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General Mattis is encouraging Trump to try to reach a diplomatic solution but he is locked and loaded in case NK decides to make good on their threats
What we should do is walk up to the little man and say----
We want your weapons.
You have one minute to order your army to stand down or we will take them out.
You now have 59 seconds---