Space Exploration. Fact Or Fiction? (And Other Thoughts!)

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posthuman

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Oh I get it! The blue areas are four of the five oceans and the seven seas. LOL Where are the rest?
in the other dimensions that CERN is opening up with their particle collider, in order to let alien demons rule the world

LOL
 
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Never claimed the constellations didn't move, I said there arrangement and positions do not, leo looks the same for all of human history.

Both of you are claiming to make claims I've never claimed. Can't acknowledge or oppose the actual claims so you must resort to these tactics. Good night all
Flat Earth is an idiotic claim anyway. Too bad such a smart kid has to believe in it.
 
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in the other dimensions that CERN is opening up with their particle collider, in order to let alien demons rule the world

LOL
Haw haw. Maybe they'll drown their demons in there.
 
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pckts

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Flat Earth is an idiotic claim anyway. Too bad such a smart kid has to believe in it.
Too bad you saw past the first space program delusion and fell into an equally if not more damaging one instead of going deeper into the truth.

Why don't you tell posthuman the space program he believes in is false, and he can tell you the secret one you believe in is false while I'm gone?
 
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anyway, it's nice for it to be made so clear that the entire reason that people like pckts deny the existence of space is because their cultic obsession with the idea the earth is a fritata demands it.

the earth is flat, therefore all evidence to the contrary is fake.

you can put "
confirmation bias" down right next to "cognitive dissonance"

i really got concern for you guys :(
Hey! fritatas taste good!
 
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Too bad you saw past the first space program delusion and fell into an equally if not more damaging one instead of going deeper into the truth.

Why don't you tell posthuman the space program he believes in is false, and he can tell you the secret one you believe in is false while I'm gone?
I didn't say the space program was false. I said that what they tell you is at least thirty years behind where they really are. The ships of today do not use rockets.
 
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pckts

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I didn't say the space program was false. I said that what they tell you is at least thirty years behind where they really are. The ships of today do not use rockets.
oh. Do they go to mars with the rockets of 30 years ago or do they use the secret ones? Do they fake the mars rover launch and then do a real one, or do they use the old rockets to get there just for public appearances?
 
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Too bad you saw past the first space program delusion and fell into an equally if not more damaging one instead of going deeper into the truth.

Why don't you tell posthuman the space program he believes in is false, and he can tell you the secret one you believe in is false while I'm gone?
I find it amazing how a smart person can take such and straightforward book like the bible to prove the reality of such fairy tales. Flat Earth..Indeed!
 
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pckts

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I find it amazing how a smart person can take such and straightforward book like the bible to prove the reality of such fairy tales. Flat Earth..Indeed!
Why do you think I'm smart if I believe the earth is flat and deny infowars and the secret program?
 
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Why do you think I'm smart if I believe the earth is flat and deny infowars and the secret program?
Yes I do think you're smart. The idea of a flat Earth is dumb and wrong but you are smart. Even geniuses have dumb beliefs. Look at Steven Hawking.

I think, though, that I've had enough of this discussion for tonight. My throat is sore from laughing so hard....Thank you, my friend for the lovely time. Talk later? Denadii waves goodbye.
 
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I find it amazing how a smart person can take such and straightforward book like the bible to prove the reality of such fairy tales. Flat Earth..Indeed!
The same way the occultist can read the Bible,and see the occult,and the Muslim can see the Bible,and say it is the word of God,with some man made interpretations,but the Quran is the final book,and Joseph Smith could see what he seen,and the founder of Scientology,and Christian Science,Alice Bailey and the new age movement,all could see what they seen.

The Bible is the most popular book ever,for other religions will say it holds truth,but interpret it according to their religions,and the occultist how they want,and the prejudice how they want,and so forth,with so many people that interpret the Bible with a belief that is not in the Bible,making the Bible the most misinterpreted book ever in the history of mankind.

I am not worried if the earth is round or flat,but I do not believe everything NASA says,or Science,but they say it is a flat earth then mention the 4 corners of the earth,but a flat circle earth would not have four corners,and the Bible says the going down of the sun,and the rising of the sun,but if the sun is 3000 miles above earth,and stays that way,how is it going up and down.

And also if the sun is 3000 miles above earth,it would have a different approach coming our way,than what we see,for we would see it coming towards us for a long period of time,and we would see the light of the sun in the sky,before it gives light to our area,which it would not be dark for so long without our not seeing the light of it,for it is so high in air at all times.
 
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pckts

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Yes I do think you're smart. The idea of a flat Earth is dumb and wrong but you are smart. Even geniuses have dumb beliefs. Look at Steven Hawking.

I think, though, that I've had enough of this discussion for tonight. My throat is sore from laughing so hard....Thank you, my friend for the lovely time. Talk later? Denadii waves goodbye.
Consider these geniuses are just liars we are told are geniuses to attribute specialness to their claims. laugh at it, remember, and Good Night.
 

posthuman

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here's a good article about videos shot from balloons, the natural lens-barrel aberration that the popular GoPro cameras have, and what facts can actually be drawn from such videos once you take into account all the details of the apparatus normally used, drop your confirmation bias, and stop cropping or cherry-picking frames.

((if anyone cares - which, we probably should care about the truth, right?))

https://flatearthinsanity.blogspot.com/2016/08/flat-earth-follies-high-altitude.html
 
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it's all about what our Saviour puts into our hearts - and it is up to us to believe it or not...
stupidity comes from lack of 'common sense', something that Jesus has shown us that some
of us have been blessed with and that some of us have not...just an observation over many years...
plus what we have gleaned from our Holy Bible and it's Stories...
 
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Rocket Thrust Is Relative To Air Pressure

Considering that rocket engines don't work as efficiently in a vacuum (thrust is rated at sea level and decreases exponentially with air pressure loss) then space exploration would seem to be null and void until a new means of propulsion is discovered. Rocket engines need something to push against just like a fire hose nozzle.

Yes, you could have momentum that could carry you into space (very doubtful but possible), however, taking off from the Moon as with the Apollo missions would be an impossibility. Basically, you're looking at a one way ticket (at best). I'm no astro-physicist but I do know that you can't fit a round peg in a square hole. Any thrust coming out of a rocket engine would be accelerated (sucked) away from the nozzle as fast as it came out. Just turn on your garden hose and watch it wriggle around. Now imagine that water being sucked away as fas as it comes out. No more thrust!

Just think, if rocket engines were officially debunked, imagine all the college tuition for astro-physics that would have to be refunded! :)

Yes folks, the banker funded universe-ities are in cahoots with the NA$A $camer$.

I haven't figured out all the details, but I do have some basic common sense, and I don't buy everything that NA$A tells us...in fact, almost nothing these days. It all boils down to Gov't/NASA corporate contractors charging taxpayers billions and a few wealthy families enslaving/indebting the world with inflation (look up fractional reserve banking).

Why fake the footage at 35 minutes if the space program is legit?

Also, has anyone ever seen a single cloud that stretches across the right third side, north to south (top to bottom) of the planet as is shown in this fake footage? That one long thin cloud must be on the order of approximately 6,000 miles long? What do I know though...except it looks fake as... :)

Faking video footage is just like Bill Clinton saying he put a joint to his mouth, but he didn't inhale. How can you trust anyone who lies?

I don't even know that this fake footage isn't faked for the purposes of starting a 'fake footage' debate. $cheme$ and $cam$ layered upon one another...the ultimate psy-op...and it's working! You have to hand it to the powers that be...they really know how to me$$ with people's heads.

[video=youtube;xciCJfbTvE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4[/video]



Peace.
 
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Re: Rocket Thrust Is Relative To Air Pressure

Considering that rocket engines don't work as efficiently in a vacuum (thrust is rated at sea level and decreases exponentially with air pressure loss) then space exploration would seem to be null and void until a new means of propulsion is discovered. Rocket engines need something to push against just like a fire hose nozzle.

Yes, you could have momentum that could carry you into space (very doubtful but possible), however, taking off from the Moon as with the Apollo missions would be an impossibility. Basically, you're looking at a one way ticket (at best). I'm no astro-physicist but I do know that you can't fit a round peg in a square hole. Any thrust coming out of a rocket engine would be accelerated (sucked) away from the nozzle as fast as it came out. Just turn on your garden hose and watch it wriggle around. Now imagine that water being sucked away as fas as it comes out. No more thrust!

Just think, if rocket engines were officially debunked, imagine all the college tuition for astro-physics that would have to be refunded! :)

Yes folks, the banker funded universe-ities are in cahoots with the NA$A $camer$.

I haven't figured out all the details, but I do have some basic common sense, and I don't buy everything that NA$A tells us...in fact, almost nothing these days. It all boils down to Gov't/NASA corporate contractors charging taxpayers billions and a few wealthy families enslaving/indebting the world with inflation (look up fractional reserve banking).

Why fake the footage at 35 minutes if the space program is legit?

Also, has anyone ever seen a single cloud that stretches across the right third side, north to south (top to bottom) of the planet as is shown in this fake footage? That one long thin cloud must be on the order of approximately 6,000 miles long? What do I know though...except it looks fake as... :)

Faking video footage is just like Bill Clinton saying he put a joint to his mouth, but he didn't inhale. How can you trust anyone who lies?

I don't even know that this fake footage isn't faked for the purposes of starting a 'fake footage' debate. $cheme$ and $cam$ layered upon one another...the ultimate psy-op...and it's working! You have to hand it to the powers that be...they really know how to me$$ with people's heads.

[video=youtube;xciCJfbTvE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4[/video]



Peace.
What you're describing applies to jet engines but rocket engines do not require and air intake. They manufacture all the air they need for thrust by burning the fuel.
 
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Once A Liar, Always A Liar

[video=youtube;PxqhU6nEy6c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqhU6nEy6c[/video]


No, but this time we're telling the truth...

Honestly!

You can believe us!

We're the USA, Inc. Government! We don't lie. The people that lied were fired years ago. This is an all new administration.


When are people going to wake up?

Lies, upon lies, upon lies...

Upon lies.


You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

It's all about corporate greed, societal manipulation and enslavement. It just so happens that the majority of citizens are so busy working to pay taxes/rent/food bills, that they are too tired to study. 50% of Americans are zombified on anti-depressants, another 50% are obese and concerned with nothing more than what to stick in their mouths, and the dwindling remnant (.0001%?) are laughed out of the room and made to feel like they need a psychiatrist.


Peace.
 
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Judith Resnik: Resurrected?

[video=youtube;l8uNXJ5pFpA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8uNXJ5pFpA[/video]


She sure looks and sounds like the same Judith Resnik that died. Coincidental?


Again, NA$A is betting that most of you won't bother to do any research. Prove them wrong!


Peace.
 
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Which Lies Are You Going To Believe?

Do you want to believe the testimony of someone who has nothing to gain, or the testimony of a known lying, murderous, greedy establishment that has billion$ to gain/rob you of?

Again, I'm no astro-physicist, however, I do have a working nose...and the story that NA$A has been telling the world for years has a very funny odor to it. :)

I found the following testimony to make far more sense. It doesn't really make any difference though as the establishment will continue to come up with new discoveries to enthrall and inspire. New deep space photography, Mars landings (laughable), Chinese moon landings (highly amusing), and watch the Chinese Shenzhou setting back down on Earth sometime...it's really... :)

And now Hollywood (or Pinewood in England?) studios has the Matt Damon Mars movie to inspire everyone to $hell out the money so we can go to another planet...and do what exactly? Make a huge shopping mall/parking lot there too? I have a feeling Hollywood makes the movies to influence (brainwash) the public into thinking that the impossible is possible...with the right amount of $$$ invested, plus cost overruns of course. Hey, when do they ever complete a job on time and on budget?

George Carlin has a great video on NASA on YouTube but the language is...well, let's just say that George Carlin has a questionable vocabulary. You can look it up yourselves... :)

On a side note, isn't it interesting the 'wood' name...it reminds me of Jeremiah 10, the Asherah pagan cult...druids/celtic religions...what have you. I haven't studied it at length...more pressing things...but I'm almost certain there's something very pagan about the names...I don't think they are just harmless/coincidental names. Evergreens? Another conspiracy for another time? :)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+10


[video=youtube;2p7bgMxewxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7bgMxewxA[/video]


BTW, look into SpaceX sometime.

https://www.youtube.com/user/spacexchannel




Now, on to the meat and potatoes...are you ready?

Why rockets don’t work in a vacuum | Fakeologist.com

"Apollo, and more space hoaxes • Re: Does Rocketry Work in the Vacuum?
by Boethius on Jan 28, 2015 6:58 AM

The reason space travel is not possible is because the systems we claim to use to propel a rocket through space operate on gas pressure and there is no gas pressure in space."


"Gas pressure requires molecules to be in contact with each other, bouncing off each other, causing millions of collisions per second, etc… If you release gas into the vacuum of space, the first molecule that pops out will shoot off into the distance at a constant speed, so will the one behind that, never catching up with the first one. The third, fourth, etc… all fly off into the distance trying to fill the vacuum by finding their empty corner. So no matter how much gas you produce none of it will ever change the pressure under a space ship. None it if will ever push a spaceship. To push a spaceship there must be some locally high pressure under it, which is impossible since the pressure in space is 0 everywhere.

Back the the Nozzle and the Massflow equation F=MA on earth


Think about a fire hose shooting water. A force comes directly back against the column of water shooting out. Why? Because the first drop of water has to pas through air, which is dense, causing many collisions, slowing down the drop of water. The second drop, directly behind the first, will not be slowed down by the air so it will collide with the first drop, the third drop hits the second drop and so on, the fast water coming through the hose pushing through the slower water outside causes Newton’s 3rd Law to push back on the column of water. This is why you need people holding the hose to add an unbalanced force otherwise the hose would not be able to push water through that column anymore, the water column would be diverted and the hose would flop around. It is obvious that one drop of water does not push back on the hose, you need a fast moving column.

The nozzle and the Massflow equation in space

Since the molecules leaving the combustion chamber and entering the vacuum never slow down, never collide with any outside objects, nor with each other, their force is always moving forward, away from the ship. There is no way for that force to be returned to the ship. There is no way for the force of the moving molecules to be extracted and used for propulsion. Their force is carried off into the far corners of space. This is also known as Joule Expansion. Remember that as soon as the nozzle is opened, the combustion chamber becomes part of the vacuum of space as is subject to its laws. A closed chamber is under pressure but not an open one.

NASA is lying at the molecular level.

But that’s OK because most people don’t usually look there. The awesome, spectacular and heroic nature of space exploration is enough to cloud the most logical minds. Most respectable engineering schools won’t touch space flight and those who do have tiny departments. If it was really a multi-billion dollar government funded operation, every school in America would have their hands out for government grants like the do with Engineering, Computer Science and Biology. But why train thousands of the best minds of a generation in a field that doesn’t exist?"






This is about as good as it's going to get, until Burt Rutan starts his Virgin Galactic commercial flights into space...but something tells me that's not going to happen. I have the utmost respect for Burt Rutan, if any private citizen will do it, he will. I'm actually surprised that the powers that be let him get as far as he did...yet another conspiracy to unravel! :)

Spaceship 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mCFxAsmnk0



Peace.
 

posthuman

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Re: Rocket Thrust Is Relative To Air Pressure

What you're describing applies to jet engines but rocket engines do not require and air intake. They manufacture all the air they need for thrust by burning the fuel.
Jet engines use oxygen to burn fuel that's why a ramjet cuts out after some altitude.

Rocket propulsion, both solid and liquid, is self-sufficient as far as reactants, as you said.

What pox is saying is a load of lies and ignorance. Rocket propellant pushes against the craft itself. Ask yourself, why does a gun recoil when it's fired? Conservation of momentum. It has nothing to do with the bullet pushing against the air. You don't get more recoil by firing into a tank of water. He's a liar.

Liars. That's what learning physics from YouTube conspiracy videos makes people into. Deceived.
 
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